- Location
- Australia
The acronym translates basically to If this is not broken, don't fix it. Although I messed up the I with the T.
That is what happened to Hood basically.
Changing Destiny (Kancolle)
- Thread starter Skywalker_T-65
- Start date
That is what happened to Hood basically.
- Location
- State of Denial
I can just picture what's going on in Halseys head.
"Did she...just call me father? And she thinks of Langley as a mother, so does that make us...? My wife is gonna flip."
"Did she...just call me father? And she thinks of Langley as a mother, so does that make us...? My wife is gonna flip."
- Location
- In the depts of despair.
"But dear, I haven't even served on the old Covered Wagon, much less cheated you with her."
Old Iron
Admiral Unfun
- Location
- The Southwestern Deadlands of America
Very, very nice chapter. These interactions between Halsey and Little E just keep getting better. I think that entire father/daughter interaction is one of my favorite parts of the chapter.
The other being Richardson finally meeting Utah. That was hilarious.
Well... At least he hasn't run into other carriers calling him dad?
- Location
- 'Murica
That reminds me, once the war broke out, the USN instituted a rotation system for their sub crews. Sixty days on-patrol followed by two weeks at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel--complete with Waikiki beach--which had been rented out specifically for submariners to relax in.
Does that make USN subgirls beach bums? (exceptionally industrious and thievery-inclined beach bums, but beach bums never the less.)
- Location
- State of Denial
Old Iron
Admiral Unfun
- Location
- The Southwestern Deadlands of America
...I am okay with this image.
US Pacific Carrier Fleet: Dad!
Mrs Halsey: *STAAAARES*
- Location
- In the depts of despair.
To be fair with a 22% attrition rate, submariners learned to live fast and to take every advantage they could.
Genolution
Hello there
- Location
- [DATA EXPUNGED]
I think I kind of take issue with this-I'm not denying that the US is probably aggressively racist at this point, but what exactly does the US have to back done from? Their demands that Japan stop invading a US ally/friend? Their refusal to continue funding that aforementioned invasion with quality metal and oil? The Japanese were the ones who escalated the conflict and their leadership will never feel comfortable with that Damocle's Sword of the Philipines hanging over the route from Indonesia to Japan.
Sakuya's Butler
A refined Butler to a knife wielding Mistress.
- Location
- ↓, ↘, → + Punch
I think your point got lost in there somewhere, as it sounds like you're agreeing with me.
And I don't just refer to the near institutionalized levels of racism during the 1940s in the USA, but more the fact that the USA honestly didn't believe that Japan, a nation smaller than the State of California, was producing designs that were effectively revolutionary leaps forward in all kinds of areas. That Long Lance torpedo of theirs is just the tip of the iceberg. And frankly, had Japan bothered to wait a year before stepping into things, the Pacific side of WW2 would have been a very different war. The USA would still have won, simply due to its industrial strengths being used to bury Japan under sheer numbers, but the initial 'six months' Yamamoto initially estimated, and actually got & ended at Midway almost to the day of the estimate, might very well have stretched into well over a year. A LOT of things Japan had been working on would have hit the water in enough numbers to have initially held the advantage, as the USA was still mostly of the mindset of 'not our war', and thus weren't massively gearing up for war. That took Pearl, and then it was basically all over for Japan no matter what happened. But until that point, Japan would have been able to produce a lot more of its better designs, and get them to its forces.
- Location
- In the depts of despair.
Its a matter of perspective. For the japanese is less about stopping an invasion and more about not allowing Japan to expand and grow while the imperialistic nations were able to plunder Asia at will, less about not funding a war of agression and more about cutting the necessary wares to keep their country safe, and the Philipines was a sign of the hipocresy of the Americans who denounced imperialism while having their own trite colony to play with.
Sakuya's Butler
A refined Butler to a knife wielding Mistress.
- Location
- ↓, ↘, → + Punch
Sadly, not really. IJN's damage control policies during the 1930s-1940s were, to be polite, absolutely horrendous. They used literal bucket brigades to fight fires aboard ships, and had NONE of the equipment that the USA's DamCon crews literally took for granted as always being available. Even if the kanmusu's spirit was present and directing things, there would have been precious little she would have been able to do.
Its much like someone suffering from a gunshot to the kidneys. Yeah, they -might- have the strength left to slap on a gauze pad front'n'back to stem the blood loss, and could tell you where to pull anything out of the wound, but they're still going to be dead in minutes anyways because they don't have a qualified surgeon to keep them functional. The USN's policies on the other hand basically mean they all have a surgeon available at all times. BIG difference.
Is it bad that I can see misses Halsey being understanding of it but more then willing to troll the ever living fuck out Halsey with it?
And of course Thompson is scare shitless of her for some reason.
Skywalker_T-65
Writer with too many ideas.
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- Plural/They/He/Her
Halsey is all for just charging forward like a...god the pun...Bull in a china shop. He'll be one of those guys who, once he has to admit that 'yes this freaky stuff is real' would be one to just roll with the punches, so to speak.
As for Halsey and the 'father' statement:
Well...technically, he already knew she felt that way about him. Granted, not her actually calling him that though.
And yeah, Richardson has enough connection to old Delaware- Engineers are always going to be fond of their girls -that Utah, who is basically a slightly newer/slightly larger Delaware, can ping those old feelings.
To be fair, the rumor mill is already spreading the whole 'Halsey talked down a ghost claiming to be Enterprise' thing. One can reasonably expect more and wilder rumors to pop up as time goes on.
Theoretically they could touch their guns. But that doesn't mean they could fire them on their own, or something like that. The girls can't teleport around their hulls- Doria and Hood both demonstrate this with all the running around they do -so they couldn't load the guns and then move to fire them.
Honestly, he doesn't know how he's still an Admiral. It's one of those 'in the back of his head, but it hasn't come up so hasn't worked on it' things. Like the fact his great-granddad is now his dad.
Really, it's something that he can't keep hidden forever. Even if one of the girls doesn't blab about it, the fact remains it's only a matter of time until he slips up somehow. Or just gives it up intentionally, when needed. This said, that particular secret is one he's not particularly inclined to reveal any time soon.
The girls have proof they exist. He has no proof he's from the future, especially with all the butterflies over in Europe.
That won't happen till January and February '41, if it goes historically.
Yeah, it does depend in large part on which destroyer we're talking about here. Most are going to look young though...and pretty much anyone other than Thompson- who while not fine is at least used to it -will have issues with that. This said, Fletchers look closer to early teens (though none of them are around yet). Not sure yet on the Mahan's and other inter-war DDs. The four-pipers are going to look only marginally older than Elephant Lady and sisters though. Unless I decide I like Pac!Edsall enough to run with that for all of them.
I tend to think it's meant to represent size. The smaller the ship, the younger the girl- discounting oddities like subs, which are always going to be smaller. The issue, of course, comes when you have stuff like Tenryuu and the Agano-class light cruisers, whom rival battleships in the bust department despite being light cruisers. Or a couple of the destroyers like Hamakaze.
Yeah...things are going to be fun once the war actually begins. This said, I doubt he could get into Japan really. Short of getting assigned to the Asiatic Fleet he has no reason to be in that part of the world, and he wouldn't leave Sara. And even then, the Japanese are likely to be a bit leery of letting anyone near their ships, flag officer or no.
:lol
Frankly, the majority of the Japanese girls are going to be...different. I've already touched on this with Enterprise, Sara and Arizona. They aren't the girls our time-traveler remembers, because they haven't experienced the war- or her sinking, in Ari's case. Now, what does this mean for the Japanese girls then?
Fun times really...part of the reason I hold them in reserve for now.
...right. Will keep that in mind for the future.
Very, very nice chapter. These interactions between Halsey and Little E just keep getting better. I think that entire father/daughter interaction is one of my favorite parts of the chapter.
The other being Richardson finally meeting Utah. That was hilarious.
Well... At least he hasn't run into other carriers calling him dad?
Honestly, Little E and Halsey will probably remain one of the funnest bits to work with. Especially here, where she's showing that there is a hint of Big E in her, even if she's still all nervous about it.
And I would be worried for 'ole Bill if the other carriers started calling him that. Considering the only other carrier he has ever served on (IIRC) is when he was Captain Halsey of Sister Sara that would be...
Well.
...I hadn't thought of that, but the image is stuck in my head now.
Utah is a very huggable person.
Oh dear.
Last edited:
- Location
- In the depts of despair.
Frankly I always imagine PacEdsall as more of a Light Cruiser than a destroyer, both visual and personality wise, in fact she's my ideal view of how the USS Junea would look and act like.
Right I was reading some of the likes Ive gotten in this thread and I just want to bring up an old idea.
Basically the shipgirls become well SHIPGIRLS after they sunk.
I just want one of them to tell their sinker, "Strike me down and I will only become more powerful"
and Preceded to do that much to shock and confusion to well the enemy while their allies go "THIS BE GOOD!"
Unlikely to happen but be amusing omake.
Basically the shipgirls become well SHIPGIRLS after they sunk.
I just want one of them to tell their sinker, "Strike me down and I will only become more powerful"
and Preceded to do that much to shock and confusion to well the enemy while their allies go "THIS BE GOOD!"
Unlikely to happen but be amusing omake.
'Tis a bit confusing, as the old (wooden ship) 'prepare for battle' command was "Beat to Quarters, Clear for Action".
Exterminatus
Tsukumogami User
- Location
- Southern California
For what it's worth, Admiral Hart did make a comment that the four-stacker DesRon were all old enough to vote, and their crews did note that their flush-deckers can't quite reach their maximum speed as they could in their prime.
And Edsall's design is pretty neat.
Trace Coburn
BattleTech Starfighter Analyst
- Location
- NDBBM, New Zealand
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" does not apply to the material state of HMS Hood in this period. The RN was operating on "We know it's broken — or it will break any minute now — but we 'can't afford' to take her off-line to fix it." The Admiralty knew full well that she was being run far past her limits, flirting with gross mechanical failures, that she couldn't make her top speed due to engine problems — her crew couldn't even get fresh water to wash themselves in, for God's sake! I understand they felt rather desperate at that stage of the war, but the fact is that the prize show-horse of the Royal Navy, their supposed pride and joy, was being thrashed like a government mule and run into the ground like an old nag.
Frankly, if Bismarck hadn't nobbled her at the Denmark Straits IOTL, Hood would have suffered a major casualty to a vital engineering system and keeled over on her own within months anyway.
The thing is that they did plan to do her 1941 refit before the war in 1937."If it ain't broke, don't fix it" does not apply to the material state of HMS Hood in this period. The RN was operating on "We know it's broken — or it will break any minute now — but we 'can't afford' to take her off-line to fix it." The Admiralty knew full well that she was being run far past her limits, flirting with gross mechanical failures, that she couldn't make her top speed due to engine problems — her crew couldn't even get fresh water to wash themselves in, for God's sake! I understand they felt rather desperate at that stage of the war, but the fact is that the prize show-horse of the Royal Navy, their supposed pride and joy, was being thrashed like a government mule and run into the ground like an old nag.
Frankly, if Bismarck hadn't nobbled her at the Denmark Straits IOTL, Hood would have suffered a major casualty to a vital engineering system and keeled over on her own within months anyway.
But the British Admiralty was like "NA man lets said her on a worldwide tour instead. She good man... It's not like a war going to happen."
Mind you the crew was like, "Wait we are down to showing twice a week and they are sending us around THE FUCKING WORLD?" At the time so....
And German was like "Oh goody in a few years we are going have a ship that will BEAT THE FUCKING HOOD. BEHOLD THE KEEL OF THE BISMARCK!"
Last edited:
still_guns
For the Empire!
- Location
- Bridge of ISS Conundrum
Hasn't someone already done something like that? In fact, IIRC, BreakAway25 did that in Fight our Battle Cry before he killed it, with USS Halsey. At least something like that
Yes but here's the thing. Shipgirls were known at the time so it was like, oh modern ships can do it too, huh.
Here only ONE, maybe two if he told Sara, knows that the Shipgirls can comeback after they are sunk. No one else.
- Location
- Australia
.... I think you need to sort of calm down. I sort of knew what Hood's condition was, but I didn't realise how bad that statement angered you."If it ain't broke, don't fix it" does not apply to the material state of HMS Hood in this period. The RN was operating on "We know it's broken — or it will break any minute now — but we 'can't afford' to take her off-line to fix it." The Admiralty knew full well that she was being run far past her limits, flirting with gross mechanical failures, that she couldn't make her top speed due to engine problems — her crew couldn't even get fresh water to wash themselves in, for God's sake! I understand they felt rather desperate at that stage of the war, but the fact is that the prize show-horse of the Royal Navy, their supposed pride and joy, was being thrashed like a government mule and run into the ground like an old nag.
Frankly, if Bismarck hadn't nobbled her at the Denmark Straits IOTL, Hood would have suffered a major casualty to a vital engineering system and keeled over on her own within months anyway.
But like Firefinder said, Hood's refit was constantly delayed due to the Admirality thinking that she has not broke yet so she still could be used. And this was back in 1937.
Hood was basically a working Utah, and she was about to break sooner or later. And Utah had it easy.