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Changing Destiny (Kancolle)

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Old Iron said:
Now I'm curious as to what you put her through. And being Arizona can be suffering. Or it can be heartwarming. Or both.
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Well, in addition to all the trauma that she got at Pearl, she had to fight a two-decade long war that she's losing, and had to witness more of her friends dying around her. It got to her so much that she's pretty much a recluse now, and taken off active-duty so that a psychiatrist can help her through this.

MadGreenSon said:
Where do you write this?
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It's not published yet, but @Greek Fire and I have been working on it.
 
Icywinter said:
Well, in addition to all the trauma that she got at Pearl, she had to fight a two-decade long war that she's losing, and had to witness more of her friends dying around her. It got to her so much that she's pretty much a recluse now, and taken off active-duty so that a psychiatrist can help her through this.



It's not published yet, but @Greek Fire and I have been working on it.
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Technically also present in our Biggest Clusterfuck RP as well.
 
Breakaway25 said:
Why are the battleships eating bauxite now, are we all that desperate?
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She ate everything else and is now working on what's left.

Only good thing is that her sheer toughness lets her be a great meat shield front liner that everyone actually important/useful/economical can duck behind.
 
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I see Thompson trying to reach out to the Japanese ships somehow - if he was at Yokosuka I can only assume he knows the Japanese kanmusu, and probably counted some of them as friends. I have to imagine that he values them along with the American girls, even if he knows he has to take the American side if push comes to shove.

Even if he's lucky and they believe him (which may not be too hard if he can describe their appearance and personality) he's probably not likely to get more than something like "We appreciate what you're saying but if our country asks us to go to war we have to do our duty."

On the other hand, the quickest way to prevent the Pearl Harbor attack is probably not anything on the American side but Nagato shaking Yamamoto's shoulder and saying "Listen to me - they know! THEY FUCKING KNOW!", even if her motivations might not be quite what Thompson would want.
 
Scottish Ninja said:
I see Thompson trying to reach out to the Japanese ships somehow - if he was at Yokosuka I can only assume he knows the Japanese kanmusu, and probably counted some of them as friends. I have to imagine that he values them along with the American girls, even if he knows he has to take the American side if push comes to shove.

Even if he's lucky and they believe him (which may not be too hard if he can describe their appearance and personality) he's probably not likely to get more than something like "We appreciate what you're saying but if our country asks us to go to war we have to do our duty."

On the other hand, the quickest way to prevent the Pearl Harbor attack is probably not anything on the American side but Nagato shaking Yamamoto's shoulder and saying "Listen to me - they know! THEY FUCKING KNOW!", even if her motivations might not be quite what Thompson would want.
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Accosting Yamamoto wouldn't do anything.

Yamamoto knew attacking the United States was suicide. He knew he was about to lead his country into a war it could never win against an enemy Japan could never beat. He protested as such frequently and loudly, so loud in fact the Navy ordered him to sea fearing his outspoken opposition to war with America would get him assassinated.

He'd say the exact same thing the Japanese ships would say: "I appreciate we have no chance, but my country is demanding we go to war and I must do my duty."

Yamamoto's appreciation for the impossibility of victory over the US was what drove him to insist on attacking Pearl Harbor--gambling that wrecking the American Pacific Fleet might just buy enough time for Japan to fortify their conquests enough to hold off the American counterattacks. It was an incredible longshot, but Yamamoto recognized it was the only way to achieve a stalemate--not even a victory, a stalemate--against the US.

The ONLY way of preventing the Pearl Harbor attack is forcing Japan's politicians to reign in the military before their adventures in the Far East piss off the Americans enough to cut off oil. Roosevelt wanted war with Germany--he had no interest in a war in the Pacific. The road to Pearl Harbor is entirely the result of the Japanese government always taking the easy way until finally they were forced to reign in the military and face revolution or go to war with the West.

(There's a very interesting book called Japan 1941 by Eri Hotta that lays out this road to war; I highly recommend it!)
 
That's so (and I'll put that book on my reading list); Yamamoto already knows the war is a bad idea, and he doesn't have the influence to really change Japan's course (with the West on constant bearing and decreasing range).

But - Yamamoto probably can call off the Pearl Harbor operation with the knowledge that the Americans are not going to be caught by surprise. Again, very likely not nearly enough to stop the war (though I had heard that the decision to go to war was closer than you might think, gonna have to try to dig up more information on that though), but it's a lot more likely to get the specific result of avoiding the attack on Pearl Harbor (and fighting a different war regardless.)
 
Thing is that prior to Pearl Harbor the American people didn't really want a war with Japan. If Japan had just been satisfied with their current gains, the US probably would have only made a token effort.

Pearl however, simply set the American people off like a powder keg.
 
Activities
A special project code-named Maruta used human beings for experiments. Test subjects were gathered from the surrounding population and were sometimes referred to euphemistically as "logs" (丸太 maruta?), used in such contexts as "How many logs fell?". This term originated as a joke on the part of the staff because the official cover story for the facility given to the local authorities was that it was a lumber mill. However, in an account by a man who worked as a "junior uniformed civilian employee" of the Japanese Army in Unit 731, the project was internally called "Holzklotz", which is the German word for logs.[17]

The test subjects were selected to give a wide cross-section of the population and included common criminals, captured bandits and anti-Japanese partisans, political prisoners, and also people rounded up by the Kempeitai for alleged "suspicious activities". They included infants, the elderly, and pregnant women.

Vivisection[edit]

A child victim of Unit 731
Thousands of men, women and children interred at prisoner of war camps, including US POW,[18] were subjected tovivisection without anesthesia.[19] Vivisections were performed on prisoners after infecting them with various diseases. Researchers performed invasive surgery on prisoners, removing organs to study the effects of disease on the human body. These were conducted while the patients were alive because it was feared that the decomposition process would affect the results.[20] The infected and vivisected prisoners included men, women, children, and infants, including pregnant women impregnated by Japanese surgeons and their infants.[21]

Prisoners had limbs amputated in order to study blood loss. Those limbs that were removed were sometimes re-attached to the opposite sides of the body. Some prisoners' limbs were frozen and amputated, while others had limbs frozen, then thawed to study the effects of the resultant untreated gangrene and rotting.

Some prisoners had their stomachs surgically removed and the esophagus reattached to the intestines. Parts of the brain, lungs, liver, etc. were removed from some prisoners.[19]

Japanese army surgeon Ken Yuasa suggests that the practice of vivisection on human subjects (mostly Chinese Communists) was widespread even outside Unit 731,[6] estimating that at least 1,000 Japanese personnel were involved in the practice in mainland China.[22] More than 10,000 prisoners died from these inhumane experimentations at the Unit 731 facility alone, the majority of whom were Chinese and Russian.[23]

Germ warfare attacks[edit]
Prisoners were injected with inoculations of disease, disguised as vaccinations, to study their effects. To study the effects of untreated venereal diseases, male and female prisoners were deliberately infected with syphilis and gonorrhea, then studied. Prisoners were also repeatedly subject to rape by guards.[24]

Plague fleas, infected clothing, and infected supplies encased in bombs were dropped on various targets. The resulting cholera, anthrax, and plague were estimated to have killed around and possibly more than 400,000 Chinese civilians.[25] Tularemia was tested on Chinese civilians.[26]

Unit 731 and its affiliated units (Unit 1644 and Unit 100 among others) were involved in research, development, and experimental deployment of epidemic-creating biowarfare weapons in assaults against the Chinese populace (both civilian and military) throughout World War II. Plague-infested fleas, bred in the laboratories of Unit 731 and Unit 1644, were spread by low-flying airplanes upon Chinese cities, coastal Ningbo in 1940, and Changde, Hunan Province, in 1941. This military aerial spraying killed thousands of people with bubonic plague epidemics.[27]

Frostbite testing[edit]
Physiologist Yoshimura Hisato conducted experiments by taking captives outside, dipping various appendages into water, and allowing the limb to freeze. Once frozen, which testimony from a Japanese officer said "was determined after the 'frozen arms, when struck with a short stick, emitted a sound resembling that which a board gives when it is struck'",[28] ice was chipped away and the area doused in water. The effects of different water temperatures were tested by bludgeoning the victim to determine if any areas were still frozen. Variations of these tests in more gruesome forms were performed.

Syphilis[edit]
Doctors orchestrated forced sex acts between infected and non infected prisoners to transmit the disease. Consider the testimony of a prison guard on the subject of devising a method for transmission of syphilis between patients:

"Infection of venereal disease by injection was abandoned, and the researchers started forcing the prisoners into sexual acts with each other. Four or five unit members, dressed in white laboratory clothing completely cover the body with only eyes and mouth visible, handled the tests. A male and female, one infected with syphilis, would be brought together in a cell and forced into sex with each others. It was made clear that anyone resisting would be shot."[29]

After victims were infected, they were vivisected at different stages of infection, so that internal and external organs could be observed as the disease progressed. Testimony from multiple guards blames the female victims as being hosts of the diseases, even as they were forcibly infected. Genitals of female prisoners that were infected with syphilis were called "jam filled buns" by guards.[30]

A Youth Corps member deployed to train at Unit 731 recalled viewing a batch of subjects that would undergo syphilis testing: "one was a Chinese woman holding an infant, one was a White Russian woman with a daughter of four or five years of age, and the last was a White Russian woman with a boy of about six or seven."[30]The children of these women were tested in ways similar to their parents, with specific emphasis on determining how longer infection periods affected the effectiveness of treatments. In short, some children grew up inside the walls of Unit 731, infected with syphilis.

Rape and forced pregnancy[edit]
Women prisoners were forced to become pregnant for use in experiments. The hypothetical possibility of of vertical transmission (from mother to fetus or child) of diseases, particularly syphilis, was the stated reason for the torture. Fetal survival and damage to mother's reproductive organs were objects of interest. Though "a large number of babies were born in captivity" of Unit 731, there has been no account of any survivors of the facility, children included. It is suspected that the children of female prisoners were killed or the pregnancies terminated.[30]

While male prisoners were often used in single studies, so that the results of the experimentation on them would not be clouded by other variables, women were sometimes used in bacteriological or physiological experiments, sex experiments, and the victims of sex crimes. The testimony of a unit member that served as guard graphically demonstrates this reality:

"One of the former researchers I located told me that one day he had a human experiment scheduled, but there was still time to kill. So he and another unit member took the keys to the cells and opened one that housed a Chinese woman. One of the unit members raped her; the other member took the keys and opened another cell. There was a Chinese woman in there who had been used in a frostbite experiment. She had several fingers missing and her bones were black, with gangrene set in. He was about to rape her anyway, then he saw that her sex organ was festering, with pus oozing to the surface. He gave up the idea, left, and locked the door, then later went on to his experimental work."[30]

Weapons testing[edit]
Human targets were used to test grenades positioned at various distances and in different positions. Flame throwers were tested on humans. Humans were tied to stakes and used as targets to test germ-releasing bombs, chemical weapons, and explosive bombs.[31][32]

Other experiments[edit]
In other tests, subjects were deprived of food and water to determine the length of time until death; placed into high-pressure chambers until death; experimented upon to determine the relationship between temperature, burns, and human survival; placed into centrifuges and spun until death; injected with animal blood; exposed to lethal doses of x-rays; subjected to various chemical weapons inside gas chambers; injected with sea water; and burned or buried alive.[33]
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not to this degree, I think
 
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