Changing Destiny (Kancolle)
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obssesednuker
Commander of 10 Million Men
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- In the Kremlin, activating Perimtr.
Zara... hug your sister... a lot...
Imgur wasn't letting me upload for some reason, so I had to go straight to the source tweet from danbooru.
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- middle of nowhere
Oh god. The ptsd war memory group is getting larger. Shigure, Hibiki, now Pola. Haruna was basically in the equivalent of a coma near the end of the war. Hibiki lost all her sisters. Pola as mentioned above. And Shigure lost all her sisters and every member of the fleets she joined. Man there are just so many depressing stories of them.
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Sakawa basically had no idea what was going on at wars end. Nagato really just watched the entire war unfold and collapse in front of her (not quite as sad). Kitakami was turned into a suicide launcher. Shinano basically never new what happened. Hosho lost all of her descendants. Akebono was struck by cruel fate since she wasn't supposed to be where she was (hence why she actually hates the admiral).
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Well, a lot of that was the nature of the Axis powers starting a war with navies that severely outmatched them (the Royal Navy was stronger than the Kriegsmarine and Regia Marina combined in 1939, and the USN versus IJN has been done to death). Fight a stronger enemy in all-out warfare and you wind up with your navy destroyed. Which is part of the reason for this story since Thompson is trying to save some of the girls who did not make it last time.
Again, the blame for their deaths can be primarily laid at the feet of the Japanese militarists. There are going to be very few happy endings for ships caught in a war that was ultimately unwinnable. That said, many of them served their country well and bravely until the overwhelming odds caught up to them, which is the tragedy of the war (also true to a lesser extent for some of the Allied ships like the Asiatic Fleet in 1941-42).
Regarding Pola, while she is understandably traumatized, some of the Allied girls like Scott and Callaghan's forces for Guadalcanal One or Taffy Three were also put in similar 'long odds' engagements.
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- I thought you had the map?
No doubt she does.
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- Canada
*Dogpile of Zaras keeping a single Pola away from the liquor cabinet*
*dogpile bursts outward*
~Celeste~
Vampire Catgirl Extraordinaire
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Well, while I already mentioned a few times that I find Kancolle's treatment of Pola fairly insulting towards both the ship and its crew - I don't think Matapan can really be called "a long odds engagement". Long odds engagement were dime a dozen for the Regia Marina.
Pola saw two of her three sister ships being sunk without a chance to fire back, knowing full well they were sent to rescue her, and she was purposefully left for last as she was already disabled.
The poor girl probably blames herself for everything.
(Which reminds me: I don't think anyone's written anything about Gorizia yet.)
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- Mountains of Appalachia
I absolutely agree that the entire naval war was 'long odds' for the Regia Marina. The service had mainly been built to match the French fleet in the Med, not the Royal Navy (and the French 1939-40). Worse for the RM, the Med was second on the Admiralty's strategic priorities after British waters and the Atlantic convoy routes, so it got a heavy investment of ships at Alexandria and Gibraltar.
That said, when you look at the force composition for both sides at Matapan in and of itself, the engagement certainly favored the British heavily. Just because the Japanese fleet was heavily outnumbered 1943-45 does not change the fact that IE Suriago Strait was a 'long odds' engagement for the IJN. Likewise, while the Japanese as a whole were heavily outnumbered at Leyte Gulf, that does not change the fact that they were able to achieve local superiority at Samar (something that the RM never was able to do in the Med).
CV12Hornet
Riter.
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- Tacoma, Washington
Er, the Italians were able to gain local superiority on a number of occasions. I'd need to dig into the Med battles again to know which ones, but I distinctly remember British cruisers - Didos, even, with their light armament - having to fend Italian battleships away from a convoy.
Ah, both battles of Sirte. And arguably the Harpoon convoy.
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Good point, I am in error there. Which I suppose highlights the fact that Matapan was a 'long odds' battle for the Italians.
~Celeste~
Vampire Catgirl Extraordinaire
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Okay, it looks like I didn't quite explain myself, sorry.
When I say that I wouldn't call the Matapad Night a "long odds engagement" I meant to say that, IMHO, calling it an "engagement" at all is an understatement.
I was just trying to get across the sheer magnitude of the trauma Pola went through - and which I think other ships, no matter the odds of their own battles, can't quite match.
When I say that I wouldn't call the Matapad Night a "long odds engagement" I meant to say that, IMHO, calling it an "engagement" at all is an understatement.
I was just trying to get across the sheer magnitude of the trauma Pola went through - and which I think other ships, no matter the odds of their own battles, can't quite match.
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- In the depts of despair.
More accurate to call it an execution than a battle, with a balance of fatalities of three against more than twenty three hundred in favor of the british.
Great. Now I want to give Pola ALL the hugs and chocolate I can find. Not buy, just find.
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- North Carolina
Yeah they have started up.
Sketchy Lurker
Your guardian angle.
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- United States
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Some of us just prefer to lurk 
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- Canada
That, and for some reason JMPer keeps getting himself banned.
Shaithan
Re-class is happiest class
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- The worst part of Germany
I think he was just hit with a very long ban. Then again, arguing that it was a good thing that Nazis murdered millions of Soviets is kind of questionable.
Though why would you need JMPer to write this story?
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I don't think Sky does?
The17thImmortal
Seeker of Sanity
Writing, no, however theJMPer is still primary Sky-bully.
How else are we supposed to get Sky to write more?
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- San Diego
wel, we could threaten his Waifu, maybe convert her from a flat top back to a Battle Cruiser design. That might make him cough up a chapter or two to keep her safe and sound.Writing, no, however theJMPer is still primary Sky-bully.
How else are we supposed to get Sky to write more?
How about turn her into a magical idol?
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Been there, done that.
You should prank Sky. You should always prank Sky.
Ohhhh, not so fast.
