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Wait, do the girls have their riggings with them? I was assuming that they did and could rain down death while dug in in a bunker.
Changing Destiny (Kancolle)
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Wait, do the girls have their riggings with them? I was assuming that they did and could rain down death while dug in in a bunker.
PyrrhicSteel
Look natural.
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- Idaho
Assuming they're actually at Normandy, and not at Calais or Norway, where the Germans actually thought the Allies would land.You know what that comment meant. But sure the girls can't do anything on the sea... but what if they are on the beaches themselves. That would be a bloodbath...
Spectre
eternal servant to the Fire/EMS gods
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- NY
except the distance is effectively to short for their guns to work, and if you notice most of the Artillery batteries in Normandy you'll realize that their both far from the front lines and were either primary targets for the big guns or airborne units.
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- Nashville
I doubt that artillery could hit them very well, airborne attack on the other hand... you know, the image of a shipgirl defeated by a person that is lighter than them by a magnitude is an amusing thought
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- Arizona
And you are making the assumption that KM shipgirls will fight on the Nazi side... based on what we've seen so far that is *not* a good assumption to make.
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- Mountains of Appalachia
You know what that comment meant
Honestly, probably they would have a limited impact. You are assuming that they would know where the Allies are invading, the Allies wouldn't figure out that Schreiber is a time traveler so knows and changes the plan to a different area, the girls are on land and can summon their rigging to fight effectively there, the girls WANT to fight (a fact very much not in evidence) and even then there are obvious countermeasures. Like the fact that the USN/RN will have a lot more naval firepower available being directed by their own MSSB, plus the issue of airpower. While an Admiral Hipper can wreck a tank, the USS Nevada or HMS Queen Elizabeth for two can absolutely wreck the Hipper.
If it's the 'girl'...sure. If it's the 'ship'...well that's a big and immobile target for the USN and RN BBs to pulverize.
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Wait a sec, I thought we were just talking about a what if scenario, not a will it actually happen discussion. Well, now we got that cleared up.
Actually I just got a thought, if a film producer needed a quick stand in for a shipgirl, lets say oh.... Hood, which USN shipgirl would be the best stand in?
Burning Baron
This position needs more entrenching.
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- In here, not out there.
I don't know which US shipgirls, but RN could use the Queen Elizabeth battleships, if they have them kitted out before they received their 'castle bridge' refits.
Hood
Queen Elizabeth, circa 1915. (sorry for the small size. It's the only resolution I could find)
~Celeste~
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[X] Italy
Because I really want to know why Andrea Doria would be in Malta.
An early armistice (possibly due to a time-traveler interfering) would probably have been mentioned or foreshadowed. A conquest of Malta in 1941-42... could maybe have been possible if the Germans hadn't launched Barbarossa. And It's too early for Operations Harpoon, Vigorous and Pedestal. Uhm...
I would support this. Seriously, one of the things I genuinely dislike about this fandom is the expectation that any fanfic should conform to the same old tropes, clichés and jokes.
Because I really want to know why Andrea Doria would be in Malta.
An early armistice (possibly due to a time-traveler interfering) would probably have been mentioned or foreshadowed. A conquest of Malta in 1941-42... could maybe have been possible if the Germans hadn't launched Barbarossa. And It's too early for Operations Harpoon, Vigorous and Pedestal. Uhm...
I would support this. Seriously, one of the things I genuinely dislike about this fandom is the expectation that any fanfic should conform to the same old tropes, clichés and jokes.
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Sir_Braazmiir
Tiefling Paladin
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- Wherever I am
[X] Britain
Because there's no Greece option.
Because there's no Greece option.
PyrrhicSteel
Look natural.
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- Idaho
[X] France
Because I just did a little light reading on french politics during WW2, and wow. That topic is an abyss of intrigue and mistrust that defies summary.
Anyways, I've been rereading this fic for a while now and something just occurred to me: It's practically a guarantee that Admiral Lutgens' and Giesenau's conversations are being monitored by British intelligence. When the bombshell that "Sascha" is a german pocket battleship drops it's going to look like someone kicked an anthill, especially if the people in charge there aren't briefed on the shipgirl situation.
Because I just did a little light reading on french politics during WW2, and wow. That topic is an abyss of intrigue and mistrust that defies summary.
Anyways, I've been rereading this fic for a while now and something just occurred to me: It's practically a guarantee that Admiral Lutgens' and Giesenau's conversations are being monitored by British intelligence. When the bombshell that "Sascha" is a german pocket battleship drops it's going to look like someone kicked an anthill, especially if the people in charge there aren't briefed on the shipgirl situation.
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- Canada
I'm pretty sure knowing there's a battleship walking around the base in human size is great incentive to not do anything overly stupid near her lest you discover that she can manifest her whole weight (crush buildings) or any fraction of her armament.
PyrrhicSteel
Look natural.
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- Idaho
That's the problem, isn't it? They have to do something.
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- Nashville
True, but there will also be frantic research on how to get shipgirls of their own...
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- Canada
Yeah, they'll call Churchill, who will tell them "Good, the Kriegsmarine hates Hitler more than it hates us. Be friendly." which will get a bunch of them at MI5 to shit themselves over how the PM already knows.
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- Mountains of Appalachia
Remember that as per WOG, these are from down the road.
That said, it's pretty much a given that after Hood visibly manifested herself, the news was sent to the Admiralty and Churchill by her captain. Now whether or not it percolated from there down to the intelligence folks watching Gniesenau and Lutjens before she revealed who she really is, is anyone's guess. As well, pre-Pearl, the examples of shipgirls are all stuck to their hull, so there may not be the conceptual leap of 'ship sunk means the spirit is not destroyed, but freed to come on shore and interact with humans' outside our time travelers. Even after Pearl, the information that Utah was able to do so may or may not be shared with the British (it probably will, especially since by November 1941, the Royal Navy has a LOT of sunk ships).
That's a given once the news about Hood's manifestation reaches London. I suspect more accurately there would be research to perceive the ones wandering around their hulls for the obvious benefits to the captain. Once the bombshell that sunk ships can rise again hits, though....
Well they should know that from Bismark's message to Revenge after she crippled her. Gneisenau getting messages from her sister is just further confirmation of the anti-Nazi conspiracy, and a good way to establish a secret communication channel with Schreiber.
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CV12Hornet
Riter.
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I find it appropriate that Queen Elizabeth is the one raising objections, since she was one of three of the Royal Navy's battleships to be in active shape at the end of the war - and she was on her way out at the time. The rest were either sunk, transferred, or out of service with a laundry list of issues.
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- Nashville
...I don't think Churchill was a very good Sea Lord...
Mega1987
A TTK somewhere at Kancolle's Iwagawa Airfield
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- somewhere at Kancolle's Iwagawa Airfield
Well... He did mess up one transportation trip to provide russia with supplies and equipments....
But the main contributer is that it was due to miscommunication and lack of information during the disaster...
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- Pacific Northwest
I can imagine the RAN shipgirls would have issues as well. While they weren't there, all Australians have LONG memories of "those damned Dardanelles"
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- Mountains of Appalachia
Which time?
1911-1915 he was pretty good. Supervised the changeover from
EDIT-Reading comprehension FTW. Good catch everyone.
September 1939-June 1940 he got hamstrung by Chamberlain over protecting Norway and was unable to move the fleet into Norwegian waters to smash the German invasion. Not his fault there. Also when he got back in the office, the war had broken out so his ability to modernize and refurbish the RN was pretty much secondary to the need for warships to be on station rather than in drydock.
True, Gallipoli was one of his biggest failures (along with Singapore falling in 1942). His errors there were more about not getting the right people to spearhead the operation, though.
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Archduke
Don't Take Geology Puns For Granite
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- Texas
Might want to flip oil and coal.
Burning Baron
This position needs more entrenching.
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- In here, not out there.
Minor nitpick, but shouldn't that be the other way around?
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- Pacific NW
Churchill knew who he wanted to lead the Gallipoli campaign, but he had no say over that because the Army selected operational leaders by seniority. Which led to Sir Francis Stopford getting the job and making an utter hash of a surprise landing. By the time the right general got selected to take over, the trenches had already been dug and it was just a matter of managing the withdrawal.
On the Army side, Churchill's friend and mentor Lord Kitchener was the author of many a disaster nearly as bad as Gallipoli.
On the Army side, Churchill's friend and mentor Lord Kitchener was the author of many a disaster nearly as bad as Gallipoli.
Skywalker_T-65
Writer with too many ideas.
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Would have updated, but less than fun day.
So I'm playing around with new retro controllers (N64 and Gamecube) for my emulators instead. Will work more tomorrow. If I can fend my muse off from wanting to do an ABDA spin-off.
So I'm playing around with new retro controllers (N64 and Gamecube) for my emulators instead. Will work more tomorrow. If I can fend my muse off from wanting to do an ABDA spin-off.