Burning Baron
This position needs more entrenching.
- Location
- In here, not out there.
Only because of the International Date Line. It was the same day, Wake is just on the other side from Hawaii.
Only because of the International Date Line. It was the same day, Wake is just on the other side from Hawaii.
I now have the feeling she'd try what Schreiber's doing. Most likely with much less success.Well she would definately have vivid memories of how the war went.
Namely everything ending in fire, ash, destruction and finally surrender by the Japanese.
Problem with high altitude bombing and hitting maneuvering targets, it's damn near impossible. Unless the Japanese are willing to come in low and slow and thus get butchered by Buffalos and Wildcats.Only because of the International Date Line. It was the same day, Wake is just on the other side from Hawaii.
That we can agree on, but P-40s and P-36s vs. Zeroes? That won't end well.I don't think a flight of B17s is due, either, so it's likely the army will have better warning this time.
The Flying Tigers did quite well with P-40s.That we can agree on, but P-40s and P-36s vs. Zeroes? That won't end well.
That we can agree on, but P-40s and P-36s vs. Zeroes? That won't end well.
Actually the P-40 was quite effective vrs the Zero so long as you avoided prolonged turning fights. In the initial merge the P-40 could actually significantly out turn the Zero and had a massive advantage in durability (the P-40's frame could withstand fairly high-G high speed turns, whereas the Zero couldn't handle the g-loading.) at lower speeds and energies the advantage reversed.That we can agree on, but P-40s and P-36s vs. Zeroes? That won't end well.
Huh, didn't know that, of course the good old head-on pass would also work again using the P-40's better durability to it's advantage. Although eat a 20mm cannon shell to the engine and well your in trouble.Actually the P-40 was quite effective vrs the Zero so long as you avoided prolonged turning fights. In the initial merge the P-40 could actually significantly out turn the Zero and had a massive advantage in durability (the P-40's frame could withstand fairly high-G high speed turns, whereas the Zero couldn't handle the g-loading.) at lower speeds and energies the advantage reversed.
Huh, didn't know that, of course the good old head-on pass would also work again using the P-40's better durability to it's advantage. Although eat a 20mm cannon shell to the engine and well your in trouble.
As proven by the legendary American Volunteer Group aka The Flying Tigers on numerous occasions, Japanese Fighters couldn't do a head-on pass.Yeah, but the P-40 can take a hit. The Zero can't. The odds favor a P-40 in a head-on pass.
While I don't remember if the fighters at Wheeler (and Ford Island? I don't remember any fighters were stationed there.) were fueled or not, I doubt even with radar warning the Americans could get the majority of their aircraft in the air with how they were positioned. That being said the largest advantage the P40s that do get up will have is in fuel. The Zeroes can't afford to get into a prolonged turning dogfight with the P40s because they won't have much of the fuel for it, or at least they won't have enough to keep a dogfight going throughout the first and second wave. It'll be interesting to see if any strikes get spoiled by American fighters.
Something I can see, and this is the cruel author in me and not the armchair general, is a stray bullet from the furball falling in the nearby fuel depot.
Something I can see, and this is the cruel author in me and not the armchair general, is a stray bullet from the furball falling in the nearby fuel depot.
and gasoline is a lot harder to start on fire than people realize.Fortunately, fuel bunkers are buried in Earth to avoid a catastrophic chain detonation, and to make a stray bullet from the furball unlikely to detonate even a single bunker.
unescorted bombers attacking a carrier loaded down with extra fighter aircraft... call me crazy but that sounds like a bad day for the bombers.But Wake was attacked too. By Nells, from Kwajalein. Historically, anyway.
Assuming the fighters can get into the air fast enough to intercept them.unescorted bombers attacking a carrier loaded down with extra fighter aircraft... call me crazy but that sounds like a bad day for the bombers.
Well they would have to pass by Wake Island first, that and I am fairly sure that several of Big E's escorts have radar. So the bombers are in for a very bad day.Assuming the fighters can get into the air fast enough to intercept them.
considering CAP/Carrier defense was one of the things we were leagues ahead of the IJN in OTL (and Thompson if anything made it even better) and Enterprise is going to see them at 60 miles minimum thanks to radar... yes they will.Assuming the fighters can get into the air fast enough to intercept them.
considering CAP/Carrier defense was one of the things we were leagues ahead of the IJN in OTL (and Thompson if anything made it even better) and Enterprise is going to see them at 60 miles minimum thanks to radar... yes they will.