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No bread ark has been over when she finished the list for bread.
Battle Action Harem Highschool Side Character Quest (No SV, you are the Waifu)
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The bread never ends!
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Certainly not once Anna decides she needs to improve bread, being as that terrible food is such a staple of UN relocation centre menus.
Could someone explain to me the difference between a "Valyrie core" and a "Valkyrie frame"? It seems like the two terms are used somewhat interchangeably, but I presume they mean slightly different things. Can you use a core with different frames, or is a core a portion of the frame or what?
The "300 frames" keep being referred to as frames rather than cores.
The "300 frames" keep being referred to as frames rather than cores.
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The frame is just the armor and equipment that's integrated into the Core, and can be changed and replaced. The Core is a small sphere of some kind that can be absorbed into peoples bodies.
The 300 frames are referred to as frames because unlike all other Valkyrie Cores, they already had frames when they were first found, and can't be altered.
Alphaleph
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Here ya go.
Man the confusion over this issue just won't die.
Valkyrie Core: Golf to tennis ball sized orb, size is indicative of nothing. Generally white, occasionally shaded, colour is indicative of nothing. Glows softly, emitting enough to be always just above background ambient light. (Attempts to create a self sustaining powerloop by putting two cores next to each other and having them shine brighter than each other have failed.)
Valkyrie Frame: The Valkyrie Core along with all the components* synchronised to it. That's it, nothing else to it.
*Component: Anything synchronised to the Valkyrie Core.
Essentially, the most important parts of the post Kaizuki quoted;
Jonen C
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Or the short form:
300 frames is a premade printed on plasticard the GM doesn't want you to damage.
The core is a character sheet and inventory you need to fill out yourself, but the GM lets your minmaxing friend help you ensure your character isn't silly and unplayable (thus becoming your frame).
Durga is your minmaxing friends character sheet, and may have been involved in inspiring the story of Old Man Hendersson.
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"Trust me! You want this core! Yes it's only 1% compatible to you, but that's the point! You can spend EVEN LONGER leveling everything up before it locks out.
With your backstory you'll get an INSANE level of skill points to spend!"
...yea I can see that.
With your backstory you'll get an INSANE level of skill points to spend!"
...yea I can see that.
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NOTE: For anyone catching up, these tabletop RPG bits are cleaned up a little and integrated into an Omake post here Original - Battle Action Harem Highschool Side Character Quest (No SV, you are the Waifu) | Page 732
"Hmm, ok, maybe, but I'd rather just be a good cook. Maybe I could catch and cook fish?"
"...Fishing? Really? Oh, we're OK, it's already in your Traumatised Survivor background. Wasted points, IMO, but it's in a skills package. Cooking... mmm... here, see?! Elective class curriculum. No problem. I'm telling you, just buy Combat and Impeller skills as the chargen cost is flat. You can cap them, those psychological traumas we maxed out on give a huge character point pool. In play, the Trauma Resolution mechanic will give sweet team XP once we start dealing with your PTSD. Even if the rolls fail, or worst case you don't get the Spotlight Episode mechanic on you quick enough, the Scarring will just boost your combat rolls vs AG higher!"
"But... isn't there some sort of 'flip out go crazy' mechanic? I don't want to become an NPC!"
"That Sandra character is a Social skillmonster, she'll have at least +14 to intervene if you have a Psychotic Break. More, if you use the... umm... aehuhuh... Special Relationships optional rules."
"..." "...OK. I guess you've read these rules more than me, I only really know Ryuutama and Golden Sky Stories. I'll trust you! What about your core? You've got hardly any weapons, and don't know how to use it at all".
"Ahh... well. You see, the 'Clueless' background gives a scaling cost break for equipment and skills locked out at character gen, which this official forum reply shows stacks with the cost break for a fixed-spec 300 Core from the "Aces" splatbook. I need a 300 core 'cos of my 'Low Core Compatibility' disad but, here, the 'Chosen One' restricted background from the GM section lets you ignore the usual skill and rank prereqs. Best part is- unlocking skills I already have neatly gets around the usual low Core compatibility XP cost penalty! You should see my final character sheet! I've projected it based on XP predictions. Here, look at the end of season 2, when I unlock..."
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"Don't forget, the GM has said they give full downtime XP credit for backstories from the time you got the Core."
"Hmm, ok, maybe, but I'd rather just be a good cook. Maybe I could catch and cook fish?"
"...Fishing? Really? Oh, we're OK, it's already in your Traumatised Survivor background. Wasted points, IMO, but it's in a skills package. Cooking... mmm... here, see?! Elective class curriculum. No problem. I'm telling you, just buy Combat and Impeller skills as the chargen cost is flat. You can cap them, those psychological traumas we maxed out on give a huge character point pool. In play, the Trauma Resolution mechanic will give sweet team XP once we start dealing with your PTSD. Even if the rolls fail, or worst case you don't get the Spotlight Episode mechanic on you quick enough, the Scarring will just boost your combat rolls vs AG higher!"
"But... isn't there some sort of 'flip out go crazy' mechanic? I don't want to become an NPC!"
"That Sandra character is a Social skillmonster, she'll have at least +14 to intervene if you have a Psychotic Break. More, if you use the... umm... aehuhuh... Special Relationships optional rules."
"..." "...OK. I guess you've read these rules more than me, I only really know Ryuutama and Golden Sky Stories. I'll trust you! What about your core? You've got hardly any weapons, and don't know how to use it at all".
"Ahh... well. You see, the 'Clueless' background gives a scaling cost break for equipment and skills locked out at character gen, which this official forum reply shows stacks with the cost break for a fixed-spec 300 Core from the "Aces" splatbook. I need a 300 core 'cos of my 'Low Core Compatibility' disad but, here, the 'Chosen One' restricted background from the GM section lets you ignore the usual skill and rank prereqs. Best part is- unlocking skills I already have neatly gets around the usual low Core compatibility XP cost penalty! You should see my final character sheet! I've projected it based on XP predictions. Here, look at the end of season 2, when I unlock..."
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My inner min-maxer wants to know more, and I thought I'd strangled it to death years ago....
My inner min-maxer wants to know more, and I thought I'd strangled it to death years ago....
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"Well, Sandra bought all the 'nice' Social skill Backgrounds and Advantages at the highest level- Very Attractive, Glamorous, High Society, Charismatic, Influential... meaning she's devastating in that arena, though I made sure she still had enough skill points to be passable in a Valk frame with some Unknown GM-decided background disads as she couldn't decide. Our Squad will get massive Command bonuses and Cohesion modifiers when she's Flight Leader.
Now, she's got a solid Social skill base and modifiers against anyone, but if... heheuheh... if the Special Relationship umm... Attraction rules apply- then her entire Personal Appeal bonus applies to all her Social skill rolls, which would give her a huge bonus to Stabilise any Psychotic Breaks, and even treat your Trauma. Win-win, really."
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Dude. You're on SV. We all have an inner-Min-Maxer.
Well, that explains how Sandra is seducing the entire Flight.
Mostly unintentionally.
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I think it could be handled a little faster if I'm reading the Epiphany and Chosen One abilities right.
Takes a bit of a special situation to manage, but if Mr Clueless would be harmed by the psychotic break he can make his own roll against the situation Traumaball finds herself in. Since he doesn't have the OMG debuffs he's likely to succeed and then Epiphany clears an applicable mental disadvantage when he does. There's some suggestion that Epiphany can clear disadvantages on other players sheets for shared challenges ...like the Chosen One substitution.
Yeah it's cheesy, but is Socialmonster inflicting a Dependency (Sandra) effect on most of the team to uncap her inspire skill less cheesy? That's just begging for the GM to pull a kidnapping plot out of their bag of tricks.
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It's a good idea in principle, but it's an opposed roll Mr Clueless would be making vs Annas combat skills, with all her AG Scarring bonuses, one which makes him subject to the effects of the attack. And see page 187: the Psychotic Break rules call for an Alpha Strike if available in the situation- even with only four HPPs... that's gonna sting a bit. Bit late for an Epiphany if you're just a shockwave of rapidly decaying exotic particles.
It only gets worse, if she's had time to Unlock those other six 'locked' HPPs. I still don't know how Mr Clueless talked @Avalanche into allowing that a reasonable background-mandated 'having a few confiscated by the UN for study' is the same as 'Locked at chargen' for Anna for the cost break across all ten. 'One 10x1 set of equipment' my ass. And I thought I was cheesing it starting as a third-year Cadet...
As for Dependency(Sandra)... yeah I'm not too keen on that idea either. I'm not comfortable playing my character that way just for a +2 Squad Maneuver bonus. Although... Sandra being able to Inspire an automatic Morale Recovery or Coordinated Special Assault move once per battle is pretty sweet... Sigh. You know I'd love an extra chance to use Thunder Emperor! in a battle- it's the only way to even slightly keep up with the combatmonsters.
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"Get away!"
"No, see, you're wasting points..."
"I'll build Setsuna how I want! ... Flying Kick... sweet! Hey, Improvised Weapon Mastery! I can use chopsticks to stab you!"
"Ugh. Melee AND Unarmed? Please at least pick Combat Prodigy, so personal combat moves will apply in a Frame..."
"No! I'm taking Elaborate Frame Design! I'll look sooo cool, your characters will all think I'm awesome."
"Why are you building a long-range Frame with all your melee skills? AGGH! Ow! What was that for?"
"No, see, you're wasting points..."
"I'll build Setsuna how I want! ... Flying Kick... sweet! Hey, Improvised Weapon Mastery! I can use chopsticks to stab you!"
"Ugh. Melee AND Unarmed? Please at least pick Combat Prodigy, so personal combat moves will apply in a Frame..."
"No! I'm taking Elaborate Frame Design! I'll look sooo cool, your characters will all think I'm awesome."
"Why are you building a long-range Frame with all your melee skills? AGGH! Ow! What was that for?"
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I feel bad for whoever is running this that can't keep them out of the restricted zone.
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Don't worry they all forgot to make their characters lesbians, thus they auto fail special relation ship rolls involving other girls. Because they forgot that in a harem verse such things need to be specifically be a part of the starting character otherwise their auto locked into straight.
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Hmm. I think Sandra's player read the whole Special Relationships section very carefully. Something about 'hero worship' and similarly strong 'platonic admiration' counting, at GM discretion. And we all know @Avalanche is a complete pushover when it comes to derailing the campaign just because of something random in the RAW. Platonic Harem incoming... Coke-Zero has a rival.
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Hero worship for a character that is average at best in fighting isn't going to be possible for anyone who knows that they can beat her in a fight at first meeting, and platonic admiration requires a soul focus of being the only person that targets being able to admire in a platonic method. Which both if they are workable only count if the Psychotic Break happens while Sandra is physically within reach which considering her skills the Break cant happen while she is their, but none of her skills will prevent the Break if she isn't present.
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Well, hero worship can arise for non-combat-relates reasons. And... it looks like you're assuming Sandra herself is her intended Locus for the 'platonic harem'...
Who is the only character with less ability to handle the attention than Clueless?... Right. Sandra is such a troll.
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"So... want any help writing up your character?"
"Thanks, but I know what I'm doing."
"Uh... that's a lot of Personal Appeal modifiers you're stacking. And are you sure you really need to max Persuasion? Although... wait... the positive Ojou Archetype lets you use your highest Social skill check... hmm... to any roll to lead or aid your Obligation Group if they have a relevant Dependency. Wow. Really? Even like, Command checks? Even, to pick a completely random example, maybe Trauma intervention rolls...?"
"I guess. Yes, any Social check. As I said, I know what I'm doing. Why?"
"Umm, no reason."
"Right..."
"OK, but, just, it's a combat campaign, and I've read the Advanced Flight Tactics expansion, soo..."
"Sigh. Go away and read the sections on Noble Inspiration, Special Manuever Chains and Unity Strikes again."
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"Whoa."
"Thanks, but I know what I'm doing."
"Uh... that's a lot of Personal Appeal modifiers you're stacking. And are you sure you really need to max Persuasion? Although... wait... the positive Ojou Archetype lets you use your highest Social skill check... hmm... to any roll to lead or aid your Obligation Group if they have a relevant Dependency. Wow. Really? Even like, Command checks? Even, to pick a completely random example, maybe Trauma intervention rolls...?"
"I guess. Yes, any Social check. As I said, I know what I'm doing. Why?"
"Umm, no reason."
"Right..."
"OK, but, just, it's a combat campaign, and I've read the Advanced Flight Tactics expansion, soo..."
"Sigh. Go away and read the sections on Noble Inspiration, Special Manuever Chains and Unity Strikes again."
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"Whoa."
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"Forgetting of course what would happen if you were badly harmed right?"
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"You did what?!"
"No, see, it'll be fine. Sandra has these enormous, massive"
"...Ugh."
"No! Not those. Massive social skill modifiers. If you're Dependant on her."
"...Dependant. Right. And even if that's a good idea, somehow, to risk the whole group going down if Sandra does- and a teammate going down triggers a mandatory Stability Check, by the way- just how is that supposed to help with the PTSD nightmare you've apparently made of Anna's life?"
"OK, obviously, we had to take the Traumatised Survivor background, to get access to a bonus Shattered-Level starting trauma. That, the point refund for Fragile Mental State, Unreality Bites, Hidden Trauma, Core Dependant, Damaged Naïf and Classified Background combined with Innocent Monster and Arrested Development nulling all her Social skills meant we could go for a 1% Core! And- get this- Anna has years of backstory to level it up."
"You keep saying 'we'. Just how much input did Anna's player have? You know this is their first rules-heavy game."
"Umm, they were right there? At the table? We even got Anna a point-sink Fishing colour skill, so don't call me a minmaxer. Anyway. Sandra can Intervene in any PsyBreak rolls! Even treat the Trauma, we'll get team XP!"
"OK, Mr Clueless. Just how are we supposed to know that Anna needs this help? With her background Top Secret, and Hidden Trauma meaning only one Trauma can be revealed per season, after the midway point?! And is this going to happen before or after her ten goddam HPPs Alpha Strike us all to subatomic particles during her inevitable Psychotic Break?"
"...Four."
"What?"
"It's only four HPPs right now. I got a cost break by locking the other six, meant we could afford a starting Expermental Wave Technique Impeller skillset from the latest supplement. It'll be well worth it when"
"I just... can't right now. I just wanted the book to pick third-year Elective classes, but you know what? Forget it. All this? Everything? It's on you."
"No, see, it'll be fine. Sandra has these enormous, massive"
"...Ugh."
"No! Not those. Massive social skill modifiers. If you're Dependant on her."
"...Dependant. Right. And even if that's a good idea, somehow, to risk the whole group going down if Sandra does- and a teammate going down triggers a mandatory Stability Check, by the way- just how is that supposed to help with the PTSD nightmare you've apparently made of Anna's life?"
"OK, obviously, we had to take the Traumatised Survivor background, to get access to a bonus Shattered-Level starting trauma. That, the point refund for Fragile Mental State, Unreality Bites, Hidden Trauma, Core Dependant, Damaged Naïf and Classified Background combined with Innocent Monster and Arrested Development nulling all her Social skills meant we could go for a 1% Core! And- get this- Anna has years of backstory to level it up."
"You keep saying 'we'. Just how much input did Anna's player have? You know this is their first rules-heavy game."
"Umm, they were right there? At the table? We even got Anna a point-sink Fishing colour skill, so don't call me a minmaxer. Anyway. Sandra can Intervene in any PsyBreak rolls! Even treat the Trauma, we'll get team XP!"
"OK, Mr Clueless. Just how are we supposed to know that Anna needs this help? With her background Top Secret, and Hidden Trauma meaning only one Trauma can be revealed per season, after the midway point?! And is this going to happen before or after her ten goddam HPPs Alpha Strike us all to subatomic particles during her inevitable Psychotic Break?"
"...Four."
"What?"
"It's only four HPPs right now. I got a cost break by locking the other six, meant we could afford a starting Expermental Wave Technique Impeller skillset from the latest supplement. It'll be well worth it when"
"I just... can't right now. I just wanted the book to pick third-year Elective classes, but you know what? Forget it. All this? Everything? It's on you."
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Anna has better things to Alpha Strike with.