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Battle Action Harem Highschool Side Character Quest (No SV, you are the Waifu)

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khang said:
Considering anna had a very spotty supply when she killed Sekhmet I don't see that as a problem.
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You know spotty pretty much meant it's unreliable, right?
Also that interval of Anna having to replenish her supply would make a difference and Sekhmet shoo'd all the other mooks when he realized that Anna ate the escorts.

ohwell, this is what-ifs that only Avalanche would actually able to answer at this point as we have nothing to go about what else Type 0 can actually do.
 
SETIFAN said:
That means that Anna is from a setting that doesn't have the warp, which means she doesn't have a soul as 40k defines it. She is blank, so a lot of Chaos-fuckery will just plain not work on her.
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40k doesn't define souls. You either have a soul, or you don't. Since Blanks are an artificial thing introduced to humanity by the Necrons (the Pariah gene or whatever), Anna would not be one. So she'd more than likely have a soul. So that's not a thing.

But yeah, at this point we're operating on mostly pure speculation that only Avalanche can answer.
 
Dark Abstraction said:
Future Class C battles would be more easily winnable since it's a tool she can plan around now.
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On the other hand Sekhmet seems to have been an anti-army Type Zero, as noted by his anti-army mortar. There are very likely Type Zeros which are specialized towards Anti-Valkyrie roles. Running into a C Class one of those would be very bad.

Besides there seems a pretty clear trend to me. Normal three hundred tier pilots can solo Class E in their 300 units. Top 20 tier pilots can solo Class E in their normal Valkyries and Class D in their 300 units. Anna can solo Class D in her normal Valkyrie and (probably) solo Class C in a 300 unit*.

*Assuming Anna was as good in a 300 as she is in Durga, which I doubt since I'm not entirely convinced she could survive de-synching from Durga.
 
UberJJK said:
*Assuming Anna was as good in a 300 as she is in Durga, which I doubt since I'm not entirely convinced she could survive de-synching from Durga.
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Also keeping in mind that Anna has an absurdly minimal compatibility rating with Durga. It's implied that Valks rated for the 300 frames have unusually high compatibility with their cores, which Anna... does not. She might not get as much of a boost.
 
UberJJK said:
On the other hand Sekhmet seems to have been an anti-army Type Zero, as noted by his anti-army mortar. There are very likely Type Zeros which are specialized towards Anti-Valkyrie roles. Running into a C Class one of those would be very bad.

Besides there seems a pretty clear trend to me. Normal three hundred tier pilots can solo Class E in their 300 units. Top 20 tier pilots can solo Class E in their normal Valkyries and Class D in their 300 units. Anna can solo Class D in her normal Valkyrie and (probably) solo Class C in a 300 unit*.

*Assuming Anna was as good in a 300 as she is in Durga, which I doubt since I'm not entirely convinced she could survive de-synching from Durga.
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I'd give Anna 60-40 or better odds against most Class-C zeroes in single combat in durga as-is, if only because in almost all cases she's now going to have documentation to work with. A couple big problems with Sekhmet, if I had to guess: she had no idea such a thing existed, she had no idea what it could do, and she was probably stressed to all hell at the time. Knowing what to expect from a Zero is a big deal, and might be a major factor in any future 1v1s. Sekhmet should have known what he was getting into bar the wave force, since the AGs had plenty of tine to familiarize themselves with Anna (except wave, ofc).
 
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Kaizuki said:
I'd give Anna 60-40 or better odds against most Class-C zeroes in single combat in durga as-is,
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I think Type-zeroes are a bit tougher than you're giving them credit for. Against a Class-C without a relevent gimmick, like Sekhmet's Mortar, I'd give solo Anna about 10-20% odds. A Class-C or higher with a relevent gimmick, like Lugh's high-energy magic, would be impossible for Anna to deal with solo.

Of course, there's no reason Anna has to face them solo anymore. Starting off a fight with an advanced Wave Force and being escorted out of range should work wonders on anything that can't kill an Ace in one volley.

Assuming Zero classes are ranked by Higgs output, D-and-E Classes would be toast if Anna fought them solo. Their gimmicks would mostly change how dinged-up the Peerless Ace ends up being. An assassin Class-D would be a hell of a fight, and a deadly threat if they bring an entourage of dangerous lesser Types.
 
Hazard said:
Also keeping in mind that Anna has an absurdly minimal compatibility rating with Durga. It's implied that Valks rated for the 300 frames have unusually high compatibility with their cores, which Anna... does not. She might not get as much of a boost.
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No, she had shit-tier talent at utilizing a valk core; Avalanche said 1% talent, 99% skill. Meaning that it wasn't intuitive to her whatsoever, so all her ability with it is purely because she put in the hours working with the tools till she became good with them.

That doesn't have anything to do with compatability. You either are compatible or you aren't. It's your natural raw talent, your ability to put on the suit and just intuitively understand how to work it, that Avalanche mentioned.

So she'd be starting at using a 300 core from the point of having more skill at using valk cores than any other valk, not because she just intuitively understands the systems but because she spend 8 years essentially non-stop reading the source-code.

But I think she'd perform better in Durga than in a 300 core anyway. 300 cores are very distant and cold to their users, while Durga is for all intents and purposes a literal extension of Anna. She certainly could use a valk core (I don't ascribe to the theory that she wouldn't survive without Durga), but she never would use one (because I ascribe to the theory that even knowing that the option exists, the idea of de-synching with Durga of her volition would never occur to her to attempt and would be considered utterly anathema if it was suggested to her to attempt by someone else).
 
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The upside to Anna's minimal talent is that we don't particularly have to worry about her evil clone if the AGs ever end up making copies of the main cast. AG-Koji would be an absolute nightmare, blending 200% protagonist talent with whatever atrocities of hyperscience the AGs' most twisted minds can outfit it with, but fortunately Anna is the single most lethal opponent the AGs have faced so if they ever get a blood sample then she'll be the first one they copy. And the terrible resulting performance would hopefully see the project cancelled before they reach any really dangerous genomes.
 
SETIFAN said:
That means that Anna is from a setting that doesn't have the warp, which means she doesn't have a soul as 40k defines it. She is blank, so a lot of Chaos-fuckery will just plain not work on her.
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Blanks also outright nullify the warp, which why they don't have souls. It was shown in a HH book that if that effect is nullified, the Blank gains a soul.

On a completely different topic and crossover, how many of you are aware a Anna expy appeared in Crystalwatcher's Magical Girl Quest?
 
Aranfan said:
Explain further.
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Which part?

If you mean the expy part, Crystal opened up character generation for people to make, some of which would be added to the quest. One of them was an expy of Anna in Magical Girl form, and after checking with Avalanche, added her.

Kelllogo, who made the sheet, later made an omake featuring her fighting sparring with the newbie War Angel assigned to the MC's team, Gabriel. Crystal decided to canonize it.

The link I provided links to the chapter where she meets the MC, and the omake itself, which is behind a spoiler tab.
 
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While all of these discussions are fascinating, this is an original setting that we quite explicitly have great gaps in our knowledge of. I mean, it's not that I'm offended by discussion, but...isn't it a bit early to be calling odds on Anna's fights with Class C's when literally the only thing we know about them is, "Type 0, thus meant to fight Valks; tougher than D's but frailer than B's; Anna killed one once?" I mean, it's an interesting debate, but I just have a tough time taking any of the numbers we're throwing around seriously, knowing our evidence base. I mean, Anna is awesome and far better equipped, rested, and trained now, so I'm inclined to give her good odds, but...numbers?
 
Alphaleph said:
Although, we do know that a Class C is roughly the equivalent of 4 or 5 300 equipped Aces. While Class D is 2 and Class B is 10.
Then Class A jumps away with 40.
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And we killed Sekhmet. Hehehehehe...Anna is awesome.

Ah well. While I personally think that Anna is better-situated to kill Class C's now than the last time she killed one, my ultimate point is that I'm skeptical of our ability to talk numbers at this point given how little we know. I mean, we could always ask Avalanche, but I feel like-

Spoilers.

-yeah, that exactly.
 
PoptartProdigy said:
While all of these discussions are fascinating, this is an original setting that we quite explicitly have great gaps in our knowledge of. I mean, it's not that I'm offended by discussion, but...isn't it a bit early to be calling odds on Anna's fights with Class C's when literally the only thing we know about them is, "Type 0, thus meant to fight Valks; tougher than D's but frailer than B's; Anna killed one once?" I mean, it's an interesting debate, but I just have a tough time taking any of the numbers we're throwing around seriously, knowing our evidence base. I mean, Anna is awesome and far better equipped, rested, and trained now, so I'm inclined to give her good odds, but...numbers?
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IMO, if spouting hypothetical numbers generates interesting debate, worth. As long as it's not troll-y.
 
Don't know enough about Warhammer to contribute anything to that discussion.

As for the you vs Sekhmet, back in the day with the old dice rules, when I was working out setting power levels and backstory I actually rolled that battle out 5 times.

You lost all 5 times.

The most tragic of them was taking Sekhmet down to 5 frame points, which for a Type Zero is all but dead, then even with all the penalties that came with no impeller and with frame and equipment damage, Sekhmet super crit'd a roll and inflicted heavy equipment damage (another old combat mechanic from the old system) on you then won 10 rolls in a row and killed you.

The battles rolled really close all five times, even if it favored Sekhmet every time, so I decided to call that the upper end and make it one of Anna's backstory elements.
 
Avalanche said:
Don't know enough about Warhammer to contribute anything to that discussion.

As for the you vs Sekhmet, back in the day with the old dice rules, when I was working out setting power levels and backstory I actually rolled that battle out 5 times.

You lost all 5 times.

The most tragic of them was taking Sekhmet down to 5 frame points, which for a Type Zero is all but dead, then even with all the penalties that came with no impeller and with frame and equipment damage, Sekhmet super crit'd a roll and inflicted heavy equipment damage (another old combat mechanic from the old system) on you then won 10 rolls in a row and killed you.

The battles rolled really close all five times, even if it favored Sekhmet every time, so I decided to call that the upper end and make it one of Anna's backstory elements.
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Huh, wonder what the story would be like if Anna crushed Sekhmet every time?
 
Gore17 said:
Huh, wonder what the story would be like if Anna crushed Sekhmet every time?
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Rolls:
Slith10 threw 4 20-faced dice. Reason: Lasers Total: 50
19 19 6 6 7 7 18 18
Slith10 threw 4 10-faced dice. Reason: Missiles Total: 27
9 9 5 5 3 3 10 10
Slith10 threw 4 50-faced dice. Reason: Impeller Screwery Total: 61
39 39 12 12 3 3 7 7
Slith10 threw 4 20-faced dice. Reason: Bread-chan Bonus Round Total: 51
10 10 18 18 14 14 9 9
 
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