Attempting to Fulfill the Plan MNKh Edition

[Red Rationalist]

I really wish we had that 2D or 3D "coordinate system" readout for the faction leaders. There's too many of them for me to easily associate names with positions and keep track of who wants what.

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You basically just need to look for key words. Pro vs Anti market attitude on the one axis, with Party Opening vs. Party Conservatism on the other axis. I could probably whip up a political compass for the new factions once I had my sleep, if that genuinely helps more people understand the political dynamics.

 

[Hianny]

Something I need to emphasize again: We still need to push agricultural reform significantly to actually make agriculture functional, rather than an economic drain on the economy. Our rolls last turn were pretty bad, and one reform critfailed and put us further behind. If we are to salvage something out of this mess, I think we need to put 2 dice on agricultural projects. I know it's not sexy, it's not glamorous, it's not shiny new tech, but a functional agricultural sector that makes money is one that will cease draining state coffers, make the rural citizenry less impoverished, and allow us to pursue more economic build-up. Do it for the sake of future planners.

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The passage of legislation towards the deregulation of enterprises has been seen as a massive attack on the development of the Socialist economy and an infringement on the initiative of the managers. By some interpretations, the reform was treated as consolidating the control over planting in the ministry leading to massive walkouts. Enough was even said on a similar line that it became a common opinion leading to a divergence of views that nonetheless agreed that decisive agricultural action was needed. Breaking from the advice of the ministry politicians they have advocated for a "decisive" and radical course to fix the agricultural sector. Total deregulation of planting based on profitability has been passed along with delegating significant portions of land management to the enterprises. Even now, constant attacks have been wielded by the most attached politicians on the ministry as an example of insufficiency and bureaucratic overreach.

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It didn't really fail the critfail seems to likely have short term helped as deragulated enterprises that hate our guts and will chase short term profits will likely help a lot to meet agri goals. Mind i am not saying that we shouldn't keep doing agri reforms just that this in no way is a massive setback we desperately chase every agri reform to make up for.

 

[Red Rationalist]

It didn't really fail the critfail seems to likely have short term helped as deragulated enterprises that hate our guts and will chase short term profits will likely help a lot to meet agri goals. Mind i am not saying that we shouldn't keep doing agri reforms just that this in no way is a massive setback we desperately chase every agri reform to make up for.

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The growth goals of this plan might be met by this critfail, but I'm advocating for agri reform based on economic health rather than annual profits. Exhausting soil via unsustainable practices is increasing output in the short-term, but will cause considerable issues in the middle of the next when the soil is exhausted.

However, I do think you're correct about not chasing every agri reform this turn, especially as reforms seem to need agri projects to be actually implemented.

 

[Kirai]

Threw together a draft plan
Infrastructure - Abandoning the roads at all cost plan, our current coalition doesn't require it at all costs. A decent amount is maintained though, because degree of failure matters and it's economically beneficial. Also working on power grid expansions so sudden influxes of power coming online don't damage our grid.

Heavy Industry - Ensuring Bakchar and Kuzbas complete, barring the dice failing us even more. Starting Sevastopol to help modernize our tooling industry. Finishing up Bryansk because we have to, I don't want to leave a factory to rot.

Rocketry - Idk, I could be convinced to anything. Light Launchers sound useful for sending up probes more cheaply, and sending probes to Jupiter sounds cool.

LCI - Oil at almost all costs. Guaranteed development of Samotor (and hopefully hitting stage 2), while getting decent progress on the Caspian so we're not shocking Samotor will hopefully solve our energy crisis for a minute. 2 dice on Consumer Goods Grants to ensure it finishes and starts consuming labor. I could be convinced to move the Caspian dice elsewhere though, Air Conditioning maybe?

Agriculture - Finishing up mechanization of agriculture and using agricultural grants to hopefully synergize with it. Also funds the enemies of the SOEs, because fuck them. Also feeding kids is good and will allow us to subsidize the sector, also it's hopefully be popular.

Services - This is a good chance to finish up a bunch of projects we've had on the list. Finish off transportation enterprises to improve logistics, but only a little so we don't accidentally fuck ourselves on petroleum. Expanding state catalogs and universal distribution systems will hopefully grow our consumer goods sector, as we increase how easily those can be bought and the variety of goods. Although state catalogs might have issues due to not getting the projects that work with it in Light Industry, not sure. Finishing off Telephone Networking and the Garbage issue hopefully.

Bureaucracy - Locating a deputy to make sure they're trained correctly for when Klim retires (next plan). Authorizing farmer programs to do something for the rurals, I feel bad for not extending water and sewage out there . Electrification drives because I don't want our economy to be entirely dependant on oil, despite the plan. Breaking private land limits as another rural reform that will hopefully help the family farms, rather than the SOEs.

[] Plan Screw Roads, Stability through Oil
-[]4260/4340 Resources (80 Reserve), 46 Dice Rolled
-[]Infrastructure (9/9 Dice, 810 R)
--[]Western USSR Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 89%
--[]Ural Regional Roads, 4 Dice (360 R), 42%
--[]Caucuses Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 85%
--[]Central Asian High Capacity Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 0%
--[]Power Grid Expansions, 2 Dice (180 R), 73%
-[]Heavy Industry (6/5 Dice, 1030 R)
--[]Bakchar Deposit Utilization(Stage 1/3), 2 Dice (260 R), 96%
--[]Sevastopol Technical Equipment Plants, 2 Dice (540 R), 30% (42% with omake)
--[]Kuzbas Deposit Exploitation(Stage 3/5), 1 Dice (90 R), 98%
--[]Bryansk Truck Plant, 1 Dice (140 R), 91%
-[]Rocketry (2/2 Dice, 0 R)
--[]Light Launcher Programs, 1 Dice
--[]Jovian Programs, 1 Dice
-[]Light and Chemical Industry (8/6 Dice, 840 R)
--[]Caspian Sea Petrochemical Extraction(Stage 1/2), 2 Dice (260 R), 73%
--[]Samotor Field Development(Stage 1/3), 4 Dice (400 R), 100%
--[]Consumer Goods Production Grants(Stage 1/3), 2 Dice (180 R), 98%
-[]Agriculture (7/6 Dice, 670 R)
--[]Increasing Mechanization, 2 Dice (180 R), 85%
--[]Agricultural Grants, 2 Dice (220 R), 73%
--[]Universalization of the Food Program, 3 Dice (270 R), 61% (72% with omake)
-[]Services (10/10 Dice, 910 R)
--[]Transportation Enterprises(Stage 2/5), 1 Dice (100 R), 100%
--[]Expanding State Catalogs, 3 Dice (210 R), 91%
--[]Universal Distribution Systems, 4 Dice (360 R), 77%
--[]Universalization of Telephone Networking, 1 Dice (130 R), 100%
--[]Solving the Garbage Problem, 1 Dice (110 R), 82%
-[]Bureaucracy (4/4 Dice, 0 R)
--[]Locate a Deputy, 1 Dice
--[]Authorize Farmer-Programs, 1 Dice
--[]Electrification Drives, 1 Dice
--[]Break Private Land Limits, 1 Dice

 

[Nevis]

[] Plan Mountain Roads Take Me Home
-[]4190/4340 Resources (150 Reserve), 46 Dice Rolled

-[]Infrastructure (10/9 Dice, 900 R)
--[]Western USSR Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 89%
--[]Ural Regional Roads, 5 Dice (450 R), 81%
--[]Caucuses Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 85%
--[]Central Asian High Capacity Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 0%
--[]Central Asian Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 0%
--[]Power Grid Expansions, 1 Dice (90 R), 9%

-[]Heavy Industry (6/5 Dice, 1030 R)
--[]Bakchar Deposit Utilization(Stage 1/3), 2 Dice (260 R), 96%
--[]Sevastopol Technical Equipment Plants, 2 Dice (540 R), 30%
--[]Kuzbas Deposit Exploitation(Stage 3/5), 1 Dice (90 R), 98%
--[]Bryansk Truck Plant, 1 Dice (140 R), 91%

-[]Rocketry (2/2 Dice, 0 R)
--[]Light Launcher Programs, 1 Dice
--[]Jovian Programs, 1 Dice

-[]Light and Chemical Industry (6/6 Dice, 710 R)
--[]Caspian Sea Petrochemical Extraction(Stage 1/2), 4 Dice (520 R), 100%
--[]Samotor Field Development(Stage 1/3), 1 Dice (100 R), 84%
--[]Consumer Goods Production Grants(Stage 1/3), 1 Dice (90 R), 67%

-[]Agriculture (8/6 Dice, 730 R)
--[]Increasing Mechanization, 2 Dice (180 R), 86%
--[]Agricultural Grants, 2 Dice (220 R), 74%
--[]Water and Waste Grants, 2 Dice (200 R), 74%
--[]Topsoil Preservation Programs, 2 Dice (130 R), 4%

-[]Services (10/10 Dice, 820 R)
--[]Expanded Childcare(Stage 4/6), 5 Dice (300 R), 98%
--[]Transportation Enterprises(Stage 2/5), 1 Dice (100 R), 100%
--[]Universal Distribution Systems, 2 Dice (180 R), 0%
--[]Universalization of Telephone Networking, 1 Dice (130 R), 100%
--[]Solving the Garbage Problem, 1 Dice (110 R), 82%

-[]Bureaucracy (4/4 Dice, 0 R)
--[]Dedicate Focus Towards a Project(Ural Regional Roads), 1 Dice
--[]Locate a Deputy, 1 Dice
--[]Authorize Farmer-Programs, 1 Dice
--[]Electrification Drives, 1 Dice

I think most plans are going to look broadly similar this turn. By investing an extra dice and a focus in the Ural Roads I am hoping to punch them out in their entirety. I am also going hard on the Caspian because I figure learning how to do offshore rigs might make other offshore stuff profitable.

 

[Khop]

I think Break Private Land Limits is the most powerful tool we have to challenge the rebellious Agri SOEs, it should really unlock the power of their competitors.

 

[Redshirt Army]

Here's my own draft plan.

[] Plan Redshirt Draft
-[]4225/4340 Resources (115 Reserve), 46 Dice Rolled
-[]Infrastructure (9/9 Dice, 810 R)
--[]Western USSR Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 89%
--[]Ural Regional Roads, 4 Dice (360 R), 42%
--[]Caucuses Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 85%
--[]Central Asian High Capacity Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 0%
--[]Central Asian Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 0%
--[]Power Grid Expansions, 1 Dice (90 R), 9%
-[]Heavy Industry (6/5 Dice, 1030 R)
--[]Bakchar Deposit Utilization(Stage 1/3), 2 Dice (260 R), 96%
--[]Sevastopol Technical Equipment Plants, 2 Dice (540 R), 30%
--[]Kuzbas Deposit Exploitation(Stage 3/5), 1 Dice (90 R), 98%
--[]Bryansk Truck Plant, 1 Dice (140 R), 91%
-[]Rocketry (2/2 Dice, 0 R)
--[]Light Launcher Programs, 1 Dice
--[]Jovian Programs, 1 Dice
-[]Light and Chemical Industry (7/6 Dice, 740 R)
--[]Caspian Sea Petrochemical Extraction(Stage 1/2), 2 Dice (260 R), 74%
--[]Samotor Field Development(Stage 1/3), 3 Dice (300 R), 100%
--[]Consumer Goods Production Grants(Stage 1/3), 2 Dice (180 R), 98%
-[]Agriculture (8/6 Dice, 735 R)
--[]Increasing Mechanization, 2 Dice (180 R), 86%
--[]Agricultural Grants, 2 Dice (220 R), 74%
--[]Universalization of the Food Program, 3 Dice (270 R), 62%
--[]Topsoil Preservation Programs, 1 Dice (65 R), 0%
-[]Services (10/10 Dice, 910 R)
--[]Transportation Enterprises(Stage 2/5), 1 Dice (100 R), 100%
--[]Expanding State Catalogs, 3 Dice (210 R), 92%
--[]Universal Distribution Systems, 4 Dice (360 R), 77%
--[]Universalization of Telephone Networking, 1 Dice (130 R), 100%
--[]Solving the Garbage Problem, 1 Dice (110 R), 82%
-[]Bureaucracy (4/4 Dice, 0 R)
--[]Locate a Deputy, 1 Dice
--[]Electrification Drives, 1 Dice
--[]Break Private Land Limits, 1 Dice
--[]Tariff Compensation, 1 Dice

 

[Quickshot0]

On the rocketry side of things, nuclear rocket development will probably take quite some years to complete, so if one wants them on time for any Voyager like program they'll probably need to be taken sooner rather then later.

Admittedly one can do many things with out them so it isn't like plenty of things couldn't still be done. But it's noted one would need them if one wants to orbit places like Mercury and presumably the further out planets like Uranus and Neptune for the outer worlds program. I'd also speculate that it would make any kind of Mars sample return mission far more doable with late 70s tech.


Beyond that, one will probably have to ponder if in the near term one wants to have a program focused on space probes with minimal human activities in space, or if one wants to do more human activity in space with a more limited probe program. I guess one could also view it as a question of what might help space funding recover more quickly, what would make better and more headlines for the public and politicians.

 

[UrWishy]

[] Plan Screw Roads, Stability through Oil
[] Plan Redshirt Draft

Stability : )

 

[vsh]

Oh, we're bringing back the Romanovs, I see.

 

[fasquardon]

It's wild to me how cursed/blursed space programs have been in this timeline. We nearly destroyed the USSR doing a dril budget meme, invented a 1980s rocket designed by a notorious madman in 1959, collapsed and cancelled everything less than a decade later, and now are creating the Weather Channel while the Americans are on the verge of killing all their astronauts because the Cold War got out of bed 20 years late and now they've decided they need the moonshot.

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I am not aware of us almost destroying the USSR with our space program. O.O

If you are speaking of the current economic problem, that's a combination of Voz failing to get the SupSov to take wage reform seriously and Voz allowing the super important heavy industrial sector get super corrupt. With a side order of steady rises in coal and oil prices making some of that heavy industry less competitive.

Nor do I think either space program has been so blursed really. Space is hard. We got some poor rolls and made some choices we could second guess, but honestly, I think we've been more lucky than not.

The American program has lacked the boost of the Kennedy martyrdom or the Sputnik scare. Also, it isn't clear if Johnson used it as a vehicle for pushing the spread of high tech industry in the poor south as he did in OTL. Since it is an airforce program in TTL, probably he hasn't been very successful in that, so the Americans have won the race to get first object into orbit, won the race to first man around the moon, have a pretty decent launch vehicle, at least for now (the solids that make up most of their vehicle will be less expensive at the moment since solid fuels are being mass produced for their ICBMs as well, in all likelihood), and will have a fairly cheap program with less centers, but also less stimulus of high technology development. Also, I don't remember hearing about any American astronaut deaths yet, so politically they're probably riding higher than the OTL Apollo program, with more major firsts, no major accidents and less of a budget hangover, at least compared to OTL. Mind you, they won't have nearly as much of an economic impact, with less money having gone into their semiconductor industries, not so much development in the South and so on...

By contrast, we started our space program fairly conservatively, tried to restrain Glushko's ambitions under Malenkov, narrowly lost the race to first artificial satellite, reacted by blaming the military and swerving to back Glushko's ambitions with the full prestige of the ministry and literally shooting for the moon. We then got lucky with our moon rocket, getting something that had a high degree of general usefulness. We then prioritized satellites and robot probes, intentionally avoiding the really aggressive options for the moon program that might have let us push through to a manned landing at the cost of stripping the rest of the program for funding, failed to roll well enough on the design of the moon mission to allow a landing in the constraints we gave the program. We then got super lucky with with the rolls from our designers, and the engineers gave us political cover that let us bow out of the moon race without the SupSov souring on the whole space program or getting pissed off at our choices. We've won first man in orbit, first interplanetary flyby, first probe to the moon, first (robot) landing on the moon, first sample return, first interplanetary flyby, first probe to another planet, killed one cosmonaut during a launch accident (versus the 3 astronauts America killed in the OTL 60s and 1 cosmonaut killed by the Soviets in the OTL 60s), we've also made sure CMEA allies got 3rd and 4th countries to get a man in space with our strong start to Intercosmos. We may have also won the first civilian satellite, first telecoms satellite and first weather satellite in TTL, but either way our current efforts in all three satellite classes seem to at least be more capable and extensive than American efforts.

Basically, for the cost of developing a few manned capsules we didn't absolutely need and wasting some work on an RLA-5 that got de-funded before it flew, we got Lunar money for an absolutely cracking probe and satellite program and now have the choice to either probe harder or go for first space station.

IMO that's less blursed and more "America doing OK, Soviets doing indecently well". We've gotten very lucky in avoiding all the main downsides of choosing the Lunar goal, won enough prestige to at least keep up with expectations and are in position to absolutely crush the coming races in space. Things are way better than I think we have any right to expect.

You think we can trick them into actually building SDI?

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Hah!

Maybe if we tried to build a space shuttle and they, like the Soviets OTL, figure that the only sensible explanation for such a crazy vehicle is some top secret military purpose, since none of the public reasons for it make a blind bit of sense. Downside of that: we'd end up with a space shuttle.

My gut says I should ask you for a concrete citation and I'm not sure I want to ally the ministry with "The earth is going to turn into venus II!!1!" types of hysteria, but aww what the heck. Your words are convincing funny space man, and I suppose data about the atmostphere of a planet that's not earth WOULD be quite valuable. Updating my vote.

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I couldn't give you a concrete citation anyhow!

But there is some interesting science to be done just considering the question of "huh, the Venusian atmosphere isn't what we expected, how'd that happen?"

Still, Venus is on the shelf for now and at least what's proposed to replace it is darn interesting stuff! My gosh! I am not too unhappy with how this has gone.

I mean, they're no longer an option. Nuclear rockets are gone until further notice.

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I was about to give you reasons for why we might see the option crop up in a decade, but it looks like Glushko is trying to play on the apparent probe-mania of his bosses by selling them a nuclear stage that would let him land on the moon!

How long would the RLA be good for before we have to make a whole new rocket instead of just upgrading it?

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It does depend just how amenable the RLA is to incremental upgrades? I expect we could keep it going for as long as it took for demand to rise to the point where we were launching so much stuff that a monocore design with payload comparable to a whole RLA-3 or thereabouts was more cost effective than the complication of plumbing together 3 RLA cores.

Is it strange that I think we're more likely to revive an -8H derivative at this point for the rarest edge cases before we revive the RLA-5?

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Hmmm. Not sure about that. Yes, it could launch wider payloads, but the RLA-1. -3 and -5 could already launch something like Hubble. Plus, with the time to develop better hardware, a super-heavy lift LV only becomes less necessary. We might see a widebody monocore eventually, but I would be very surprised if we saw such an RLAH have more than a tri-core variant.

And such a widebody rocket would need new launch pads, new aerodynamics work, new design work... It would be a non-trivial expense. Whereas an RLA-5 has already been prepared for.

I would advise skipping "scientific exchange programs", as our agriculture is decently modern. The benefits are explicitly mentioned to be minimal during this plan, and to only start helping during the next. Our agricultural problem is a policy one, not one born out of technological backwardness. Waste of an action, if you ask me.

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Yeah, you're probably right that it isn't a priority yet. Still, I wouldn't entirely discount it. Exposing the characters' assumptions to external ideas is a way to open minds.

But I am hoping this is around next plan. As you say we have other priorities.

You basically just need to look for key words. Pro vs Anti market attitude on the one axis, with Party Opening vs. Party Conservatism on the other axis. I could probably whip up a political compass for the new factions once I had my sleep, if that genuinely helps more people understand the political dynamics.

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I think I have a good grip on what the political setup is, and I still think that sounds great.

Light Launchers sound useful for sending up probes more cheaply

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Naw, the light launchers are replacements for the R7 and R7M, small payloads for low orbit.

We don't have good enough electronics yet to really be sending up interplanetary probes on these.

Probably the main benefit of developing the light launcher is taking pressure off the demand for RLA cores. Not sure that's a huge benefit... There were some murmurings about developing a multi-payload bus, which is probably a better way to go - see for example the way multi-payload Falcon 9 launches have pretty much destroyed the light launcher market today or before that the way the Ariane V out-competed single-payload launches from everything not called "Soyuz".

[]Cancel Project (5<Projects<10, -1 Dice) (70/105R/y Funding Cap)
-Mars Program (-10 RpY) (Launched)
-Communication Satellites (-10 RpY) (Continuous Launches, Test Program)
-Atmospheric Data Satellite Program (-10 RpY)
-FGB-VA Crewed Exploration (-10 RpY)
-EVA Suit Programs (-10 RpY)
-2nd Gen Luna Program (-20 RpY)

[]Replace Glushko: The man has had his little triumph of returning lunar soil and achieved several orbital victories, but he is still abrasive in the extreme and practically from the past era. His area of expertise in rocket engine optimization has been rendered mostly obsolete by his developments and more junior members are excited to address future challenges facing the space program. Replacing him will not come easily as the program has effectively been built around his OKB, but now is the time for bureaucratic reorganization and the further consolidation of the space program into a single body instead of the not entirely functional system of junior and senior OKBs. (1 Dice)

[]Nuclear Drives: The promise of a viable high-thrust nuclear drive for the launch of a payload into the outer system is practically astronomical. A two-stage moon mission in the American scheme could be conducted with our current rockets assuming a hydrogen stage, additionally, the massive requirements for velocity for exploring the outer system can neatly be solved. Some in the ministry caution against the usage of significant quantities of nuclear material for effectively disposable engines, but given the cost of all of the other hardware the actual fissiles are expected to be relatively cheap. Work will focus on the construction of a low-thrust rocket for a theoretical RLA-3 nuclear stage as a unified bus for the transit of satellites to the outer planets and mercury. (-10 RpY Expected) (1 Dice)

[]Light Launcher Programs: With the conclusion of the development period for the RLA-1 and 3, a heavy and super heavy launcher is available to the Union, but nothing for lighter payloads. Starting dedicated development work on a lightweight launcher capable of hauling up to two tons into low earth orbit can significantly widen the capacity for light payloads and work off of military developments. The program itself will have to make the challenging decision between the re-utilization of kerosine parts from the RLA or military programs, but a combined system should be cheap with the wealth of experience from previous initiatives. (-5 RpY Expected) (1 Dice)

[]Station Program: With the availability of the RLA-3 for the launch of very heavy payloads, nothing prevents the development and launch of a forty-ton habitable module to orbit. The module will then be crewed through a conventional launch of the FGB-VA bus along with the transfer of experiments and technologies aboard. The development of a whole new spacecraft will take some time, but starting work towards the sustained habitation of space can enable further projects in low earth orbit and truly long-duration experiments. Current limitations in electrical and thermal systems will be the major limit on the duration of these integrated stations, but if the next decade can replicate the gains of the last ten years those will be blown past. (-25 RpY Expected) (1 Dice)

[]Jovian Programs: Jupiter represents the next most reachable frontier of interplanetary exploration and one for which the foundation has already been established. Long-duration Mars probes will form a basis for whatever general probe bus is sent out, with the limitations of a longer journey. Developing the electronics will be challenging along with a sufficient degree of signal infrastructure, but everything that is built for the program can work for any other outer system program. With current techniques flybys of Io, Europa, Ganymede, and Callisto could be conducted, but more reliable and heavier interplanetary launches are going to be required for landings. (-10 RpY Expected) (5 RpY Cheaper if run with Outer System Probes) (1 Dice)

[]Outer System Probes: Saturn and the outer planets represent a massive jump in sophistication and capability, both of launch vehicles and probes. The development of better hardware is continuously underway with reliability and capability increasing rapidly, but even then these missions are inherently risky. There exists effectively a single launch window where a Jupiter gravity assist can be utilized, necessitating either the bulk sending of probes in a parking orbit or ensuring that the hardware will work. A theoretical nuclear stage will allow for craft to be sent with minimal gravity assists, but that represents several development challenges. (-10 RpY Expected) (1 Dice)

[]Mercury Exploration Program: Current techniques and probes are sufficient for the flyby of mercury, with the main limitation falling towards the boost stage. Due to the problematic orbit of mercury, an intercept requires a massive degree of velocity to even attempt. Combining an RLA-3 along with a newly developed enlarged interplanetary stage is one proposal for such a mission allowing for an easy capability expansion without new technical developments. The stage will use the same engines and same tankage techniques if significantly scaled up for increased capability. Orbiting mercury is beyond any developed rocket, but a theoretical nuclear engine may be able to fix that. (-5 RpY Expected) (1 Dice)

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Oh my gosh the options!

So shiny!

To start with, I am not keen to replace Glushko. We're not sure what would replace him, he's been able to control the space program fairly well and deliver decent results, we can be fairly sure he's nigh incorruptible - unless something has really changed his character in TTL, Glushko will as OTL be a servant of human spaceflight first, with his considerable ego a distant second (he wants space conquered by HIS rockets) and everything else third... Also, keeping Glushko is IMO the best chance of getting a manned landing on the moon in this history. If the Americans haven't even started work on their RLA-5 equivalent, they are extremely unlikely to go for a landing and will probably be pivoting to probes or a station soon. Also, I kinda like what the slightly more centralized but not entirely centralized program has managed in this history. That the other big designers have some autonomy really came in clutch during the moon program and is why we have a space program twice the size of what it would have been otherwise...

On balance, I am somewhat interested in getting men on the moon as well. Especially seeing how alot of the reason why we haven't landed men on the moon already is because of my choices, that I managed to persuade people to agree with. I think they were still good choices, but also I reckon I owe the thread's moon lobby, especially the ones I persuaded to back my ideas.

It looks like Glushko is pushing for the nuclear stage to enable his Lunar dreams. A nuclear stage would also greatly enhance our capabilities for getting to Mercury (ironically the hardest place to get a probe in the Solar System due to how hard it is to slow down and fall in, whereas flybys can help to get out). It would also help for Martian sample returns and would be necessary for landers on the outer planets. Plus, with a nuclear stage we can get fair sized probes to orbit or flyby on a wider range of dates.

There's some technical risk to a nuclear stage - the Soviets and the Americans made prototype nuclear rockets without any major issues from a functional point of view. However, there is some question of exactly how bad it would be if a rocket exploded on the pad with a nuclear upper stage. I am not sure of how easily one could make the nuclear part of the stage strong enough that it stayed in one piece even with a whole RLA-3 (for example) going kaboom under it.

I expect the cost of the nuclear engine would mostly be involved in handling all the liquid hydrogen and all the time and energy of skilled engineers that goes into making a machine that can manage that - which we at least have experience with due to our high performance interplanetary stage - the fissiles will be a rounding error on the cost of the stage. Plus, the fissiles can be used to provide electricity as well via building an RTG around the rocket's core.

The potential return here is pretty awesome. That said, we could not fund the nuclear stage and still do bigger and better versions of all of NASA's post Apollo efforts...

That said, we only have two dice, a pile of great options and 35 rpt of room in the budget... So deciding what order to do things in is big.

We have a hard limit in terms of planetary alignments to work towards. Going from this we have 9 years to develop a probe before the best window to get a probe to Pluto, with windows for the other outer planets opening in the following few years. Hitting this planetary alignment is cost-effective, even if we did develop a nuclear engine. The question is, how soon do we need to start on those probes? NASA in OTL started work on Voyager 1 and 2 in 1972, working off of the Mariner hardware which was their equivalent of our probes going to Mars and Venus.

We probably don't want to start work on these probes too soon, since we want them to head out with reasonably modern electronics on board.

So, let's leave the Jupiter and Outer Planets probes for now. What to do in the meantime?

The space station program is, frankly, staggeringly expensive. It is comparable to the RLA-3 and RLA-5 development costs combined which... is huge. Either this is a very large program, with very fancy stations or plans to launch alot of them, or it is a very intense program, with alot being done fast. Starting work on the station is maybe a tad early, but starting now would give Intercosmos a big boost, would support the work necessary for a future moon landing (most notably further development of our space suits) and give us a good shot at getting first space station. That's pretty attractive to me. On the other hand, I am not sure how long the space station program would be a 25 rpt/year cost. And waiting some time for the capsule program to do more preparatory work might mean we have better electrical and thermal systems, which might lead to more durable stations and thus a less expensive total program.

So I feel that at this point we could either be conservative, and do the nuclear drives and the light launcher programs, or we be more ambitious and do nuclear drives and the station program.

We could of course, also start the Mercury program, but the light launchers seem the better choice than Mercury to me.

Oh! And happy Gregorian New Year folks.

Regards,

fasquardon

 

[Quickshot0]

We probably don't want to start work on these probes too soon, since we want them to head out with reasonably modern electronics on board.

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I see this kind of the opposite, the outer system has some surprises and getting an early probe there to warn of say the super high radiation belt of Jupiter would be pretty handy. As well as getting other potential design issues for such long range communication sorted, temperature management, etc. Then a grand tour could be done with a second generation platform with larger ambitions and sizes, rather then having just a first gen platform with its higher fail chances.

I guess one could split ones attention as you suggest instead, but I do think an argument can be made of focusing one route down for maximum efficiency and program learning. Like for instance, if one ran all the probe programs, then the design teams would presumably have a lot of experience, resources and more up to date parts to work with from the other programs. In such a scenario the Soviet Union could be going to all the planets with rapidly improving probes, getting many of the first looks and follow up studies for many of the planets.


Still, it depends on what ones goal is in the end, where one wants to end up.

 

[01paradox01]

I'll chime in I guess, but I'm not all the enthused about the lunar program? It's a great achievement and all, but I don't see how it would outweigh the scientific value of developing probes to explore the outer reaches solar system, or getting a space station up and running in the long-term. The space program's first priority should be scientific developments and research first and one-upping the Americans second, in my view. Trying to claw back the lunar race just seems like a coping mechanism.

Edit: Corrections

 

[General_Urist]

Two of our possible space projects talk about the benefits of nuclear rockets, I very much think we should start them together. 10 RpY nuclear + 5 RpY light launcher + 15 RpY outer systems + jovian puts us at 100 RpY, 5 below the funding cap so there is leeway for bad rolls. This would leave the manned program mostly by the wayside, but we don't have enough of a resource cap to do both stations and probes without half-assing both.

Steel: (41/44/62) Weak Export (40-60 No Effect)
+1 Construction Industry Expansions
+1 Net Civilian Spending

Petroleum Fuels: (41/46/39) (Sole Exporter/Modifying CMEA Prices) (40-60 No Effect)
+5 Net Civilian Spending
+1 Fields Depletion
-1 Field Modernization

General Labor: (19/17/66) (20-40 Massive Increase of all Export Growth, -10 RpD Universally, Massive Increase in Discontent, and severely lowered Intrinsic Growth)
+9 Net Civilian Spending
-14 New Graduates
-1 Rural Transfers
-0 Immigration

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Well dang. We need to get labor prices up and fuel prices down FAST.

Also, informational updated, here are our plan targets. Not great, but could be worse!

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Thank god for the rebound, I expected CapGoods to be much worse

 

[General_Urist]

These plans mainly work on finishing all the things that bad luck held back from us last turn, and also getting oil prices back down. I put two dice on the steel mill, because I want to make ABSOLUTELY DAMN SURE we get steel prices down next turn.

I only had one free dice to space on rocketry, so I put off the Jovian Programs for next turn. It seems like it could easily be added as an extension to Outer Systems probes, while the other actions are more fundamental stuff that's better to start sooner than later. (@Blackstar just to confirm actually: Will the Jovian Programs still cost 5 RpY if we start them later with outer systems still running, or do we need to take both actions in the same turn to get the bonus?)

The second variant of the plan has us mess with the Services department, since Klimenko seems very convinced the current head is useless and the threadviet does want to promote the deputy to girlboss. Plus, we might not have a chance next turn when things are less up in the air organization-wise.

[X] Plan EMERGENCY MAINTENANCE plus atomic rockets
-[X]4295/4340 Resources (45 Reserve), 46 Dice Rolled
-[X]Infrastructure (9/9 Dice, 810 R)
--[X]Western USSR Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 89%/100%
--[X]Ural Regional Roads, 4 Dice (360 R), 42%/52%
--[X]Caucuses Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 85%/100%
--[X]Central Asian High Capacity Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 0%/0%
--[X]Central Asian Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 0%/0%
--[X]Power Grid Expansions, 1 Dice (90 R), 9%/24%
-[X]Heavy Industry (6/5 Dice, 1030 R)
--[X]Bakchar Deposit Utilization(Stage 1/3), 2 Dice (260 R), 96%/99%
--[X]Sevastopol Technical Equipment Plants, 2 Dice (540 R), 30%/43%
--[X]Kuzbas Deposit Exploitation(Stage 3/5), 1 Dice (90 R), 98%/100%
--[X]Bryansk Truck Plant, 1 Dice (140 R), 91%/100%
-[X]Rocketry (3/2 Dice, 0 R)
--[X]Nuclear Drives, 1 Dice
--[X]Light Launcher Programs, 1 Dice
--[X]Outer System Probes, 1 Dice
-[X]Light and Chemical Industry (7/6 Dice, 780 R)
--[X]Caspian Sea Petrochemical Extraction(Stage 1/2), 3 Dice (390 R), 97%/99%
--[X]Samotor Field Development(Stage 1/3), 3 Dice (300 R), 100%/100%
--[X]Consumer Goods Production Grants(Stage 1/3), 1 Dice (90 R), 67%/82%
-[X]Agriculture (7/6 Dice, 645 R)
--[X]Domestic Meat Programs(Stage 4/10), 3 Dice (285 R), 18%/27%
--[X]Increasing Mechanization, 1 Dice (90 R), 33%/48%
--[X]Universalization of the Food Program, 3 Dice (270 R), 62%/72%
-[X]Services (10/10 Dice, 1030 R)
--[X]Transportation Enterprises(Stage 2/5), 1 Dice (100 R), 100%/100%
--[X]Universal Distribution Systems, 4 Dice (360 R), 77%/84%
--[X]Universalization of Telephone Networking, 1 Dice (130 R), 100%/100%
--[X]State Insurance Enterprises, 3 Dice (330 R), 65%/75%
--[X]Solving the Garbage Problem, 1 Dice (110 R), 82%/97%
-[X]Bureaucracy (4/4 Dice, 0 R)
--[X]Locate a Deputy, 1 Dice
--[X]Electrification Drives, 1 Dice
--[X]Expanded Education for Adults, 1 Dice
--[X]Break Private Land Limits, 1 Dice

[X] Plan EMERGENCY MAINTENANCE plus ratfucking Services
-[X]4295/4340 Resources (45 Reserve), 46 Dice Rolled
-[X]Infrastructure (9/9 Dice, 810 R)
--[X]Western USSR Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 89%/100%
--[X]Ural Regional Roads, 4 Dice (360 R), 42%/52%
--[X]Caucuses Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 85%/100%
--[X]Central Asian High Capacity Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 0%/0%
--[X]Central Asian Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 0%/0%
--[X]Power Grid Expansions, 1 Dice (90 R), 9%/24%
-[X]Heavy Industry (6/5 Dice, 1030 R)
--[X]Bakchar Deposit Utilization(Stage 1/3), 2 Dice (260 R), 96%/99%
--[X]Sevastopol Technical Equipment Plants, 2 Dice (540 R), 30%/43%
--[X]Kuzbas Deposit Exploitation(Stage 3/5), 1 Dice (90 R), 98%/100%
--[X]Bryansk Truck Plant, 1 Dice (140 R), 91%/100%
-[X]Rocketry (3/2 Dice, 0 R)
--[X]Nuclear Drives, 1 Dice
--[X]Light Launcher Programs, 1 Dice
--[X]Outer System Probes, 1 Dice
-[X]Light and Chemical Industry (7/6 Dice, 780 R)
--[X]Caspian Sea Petrochemical Extraction(Stage 1/2), 3 Dice (390 R), 97%/99%
--[X]Samotor Field Development(Stage 1/3), 3 Dice (300 R), 100%/100%
--[X]Consumer Goods Production Grants(Stage 1/3), 1 Dice (90 R), 67%/82%
-[X]Agriculture (7/6 Dice, 645 R)
--[X]Domestic Meat Programs(Stage 4/10), 3 Dice (285 R), 18%/27%
--[X]Increasing Mechanization, 1 Dice (90 R), 33%/48%
--[X]Universalization of the Food Program, 3 Dice (270 R), 62%/72%
-[X]Services (10/10 Dice, 1030 R)
--[X]Transportation Enterprises(Stage 2/5), 1 Dice (100 R), 100%/100%
--[X]Universal Distribution Systems, 4 Dice (360 R), 77%/84%
--[X]Universalization of Telephone Networking, 1 Dice (130 R), 100%/100%
--[X]State Insurance Enterprises, 3 Dice (330 R), 65%/75%
--[X]Solving the Garbage Problem, 1 Dice (110 R), 82%/97%
-[X]Bureaucracy (4/4 Dice, 0 R)
--[X]Locate a Deputy, 1 Dice
--[X]Electrification Drives, 1 Dice
--[X]Break Private Land Limits, 1 Dice
--[X]Reorganize a Department(Choose Department), 1 Dice

 

[Red Rationalist]

As requested, the political compass for the various party factions as of 1968. Keep in mind that this fairly vibes-based on my end, and mostly serves to illustrate how radical their positions are relative to each other and within the soviet political sphere.



Axis explanation: As I couldn't find a good PC generations system with axis that could be labelled, I repurposed the existing ones. The left-right spectrum describes the pro- vs. anti-market attitude of each faction, while authoritarian vs. libertarian describe the position on opening the system up to the masses vs. maintaining the current grip of the party on society.

It's important to note that the authoritarian and libertarian spectrum also influence elements of economic policy, as the libertarian-authoritarian position does cover desired policy regarding non-party owned businesses specifically and that the left-right economic spectrum is more concerned with the question of with what mechanisms the soviet government should control the economy, rather than any advocacy of laissez-faire deregulation. Nobody aims for an free market economy in the conventional sense.

 

[Vi'Talzin]

I think going for []Tariff Compensation at the exact time we are discussing the possibility of sending in the tanks is not a great ideia... the action is basically forcing CMEA to lower trade barriers so we can undercut their agricultural economies. We should wait to do that for when they are stable enough that this doesn't spark off any issues.

Anyway, as for reforms I think we need to take this opportunity to oust Petrovsky and put in someone better equipped to handle the service transition in the possible absence/retirement of Klim, so -[]Reorganize a Department(Services) is smtg I would very much like to see done.

This looks like a quasi-mandate from the Supreme Soviet to increase investment in the Oil sector caused by prices in the CMEA being 7 points (18%?) above International prices.

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If we don't stabilize fuel prices in at least our market, we are going to fuck over our potical allies and potentially lose our jobs yes. We need to at least finish two oil fields. Might even consider doing three of them, specifically the second stage of Samotor which is the closest.

 

[Red Rationalist]

I think going for []Tariff Compensation at the exact time we are discussing the possibility of sending in the tanks is not a great ideia... the action is basically forcing CMEA to lower trade barriers so we can undercut their agricultural economies. We should wait to do that for when they are stable enough that this doesn't spark off any issues.

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I don't think we would be increasing exports to CEMA. As I understand it, CEMA tariffs for goods are already fairly low, and tariff compensation just involves compensating farmers for tariff induced costs in the international trade, so they are less reliant on our grain subsidies. The action specifically names foreign markets as the export goal, which isn't how I would describe the eastern trade block. So we would be screwing with the agricultural sector of Asia and Africa by exporting cheap soviet grain trough their tariff barrier, not forcibly flooding the eastern block with it. Eastern Europe already has a fairly saturated agricultural market.

 

[Vi'Talzin]

If you want to risk it, go ahead. I think we have other good actions competing for it that are very good as well and don't have the risk. Personally I think Deputy+Reorganizing Services+Electrification+Breaking private limits is the way to go. Electrification because visibly pontificating on an answer to the energy crisis to the Supreme Soviet is incredibly important, and I think it in particular is better for the health of the nation than drilling in nature preserves and near water tables. Breaking Private Limits because its a powerful tool against the SoEs that will allow our more successful smallholders to eat their less successful counterparts bringing us 📈

 

[Hianny]

Personally i am against the deputy action this turn as we just have done disastrously so i would like to shore up our sitution before doing it as we likely would have better options instead of just rushing someone in.

 

[Hianny]

[X] Plan Getting all other indicators than steel down
-[X]4155/4340 Resources (185 Reserve), 46 Dice Rolled
-[X]Infrastructure (9/9 Dice, 810 R)
--[X]Western USSR Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 89%
--[X]Ural Regional Roads, 4 Dice (360 R), 42%
--[X]Caucuses Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 85%
--[X]Central Asian High Capacity Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 0%
--[X]Central Asian Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 0%
--[X]Power Grid Expansions, 1 Dice (90 R), 9%
-[X]Heavy Industry (5/5 Dice, 900 R)
--[X]Bakchar Deposit Utilization(Stage 1/3), 1 Dice (130 R), 59%
--[X]Sevastopol Technical Equipment Plants, 2 Dice (540 R), 30%
--[X]Kuzbas Deposit Exploitation(Stage 3/5), 1 Dice (90 R), 98%
--[X]Bryansk Truck Plant, 1 Dice (140 R), 91%
-[X]Rocketry (2/2 Dice, 0 R)
--[X]Light Launcher Programs, 1 Dice
--[X]Jovian Programs, 1 Dice
-[X]Light and Chemical Industry (10/6 Dice, 1100 R)
--[X]Samotor Field Development(Stage 1/3), 5 Dice (500 R), 100%
--[X]Consumer Goods Production Grants(Stage 1/3), 2 Dice (180 R), 98%
--[X]Synthetic Rubber Plants(Stage 2/4), 3 Dice (420 R), 98%
-[X]Agriculture (6/6 Dice, 535 R)
--[X]Increasing Mechanization, 1 Dice (90 R), 33%
--[X]Agricultural Grants, 1 Dice (110 R), 14%
--[X]Universalization of the Food Program, 3 Dice (270 R), 62%
--[X]Topsoil Preservation Programs, 1 Dice (65 R), 0
-[X]Services (10/10 Dice, 810 R)
--[X]Expanded Childcare(Stage 4/6), 5 Dice (300 R), 98%
--[X]Universal Distribution Systems, 3 Dice (270 R), 29%
--[X]Universalization of Telephone Networking, 1 Dice (130 R), 100%
--[X]Solving the Garbage Problem, 1 Dice (110 R), 82%
-[X]Bureaucracy (4/4 Dice, 0 R)
--[X]Electrification Drives, 1 Dice
--[X]Break Private Land Limits, 1 Dice
--[X]Scientific Exchange Programs, 1 Dice
--[X]Tariff Compensation, 1 Dice
-[X]Total Cost: 4155/4340 Resources, 0 < 22 < 22 GL, 0 < 6 < 6 EL, -177 < -163 < 14 Electricity, -8 < -3 < 5 steel, 0 < 2 < 2 coal, 0 < 3 < 3 no fe, -7 < -7 < 0 petro fuels, -5 < -5 < 0 petrochemicals.

I am still going to post my plan even if i am the least aggresive with oil and we should likely still do more but i feel like it offers something with the aggresive agri bureaucracy decisions and the extra focus on getting some petrochemicals also done like Rubber and getting the extra growth from that.

 

[Nevis]

[X]Plan Mountain Roads Take Me Home
-[X]4245/4340 Resources (95 Reserve), 46 Dice Rolled
-[x]Infrastructure (10/9 Dice, 900 R)
--[x]Western USSR Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 89%
--[x]Ural Regional Roads, 5 Dice (450 R), 81%
--[x]Caucuses Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 85%
--[x]Central Asian High Capacity Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 0%
--[x]Central Asian Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 0%
--[x]Power Grid Expansions, 1 Dice (90 R), 9%
-[x]Heavy Industry (6/5 Dice, 1030 R)
--[x]Bakchar Deposit Utilization(Stage 1/3), 2 Dice (260 R), 96%
--[x]Sevastopol Technical Equipment Plants, 2 Dice (540 R), 30%
--[x]Kuzbas Deposit Exploitation(Stage 3/5), 1 Dice (90 R), 98%
--[x]Bryansk Truck Plant, 1 Dice (140 R), 91%
-[x]Rocketry (2/2 Dice, 0 R)
--[x]Light Launcher Programs, 1 Dice
--[x]Jovian Programs, 1 Dice
-[x]Light and Chemical Industry (6/6 Dice, 710 R)
--[x]Caspian Sea Petrochemical Extraction(Stage 1/2), 2 Dice (260 R), (80% ish I am changing this on the fly.)
--[x]Samotor Field Development(Stage 1/3), 3 Dice (300 R), 100%
--[x]Consumer Goods Production Grants(Stage 1/3), 1 Dice (90 R), 67%
-[x]Agriculture (8/6 Dice, 730 R)
--[x]Increasing Mechanization, 2 Dice (180 R), 86%
--[x]Agricultural Grants, 2 Dice (220 R), 74%
--[x]Water and Waste Grants, 2 Dice (200 R), 74%
--[x]Topsoil Preservation Programs, 1 Dice (65 R), 0%
--[x] Agricultural Grants, 1 Dice (120 R), 2%
-[x]Services (10/10 Dice, 820 R)
--[x]Expanded Childcare(Stage 4/6), 5 Dice (300 R), 98%
--[x]Transportation Enterprises(Stage 2/5), 1 Dice (100 R), 100%
--[x]Universal Distribution Systems, 2 Dice (180 R), 0%
--[x]Universalization of Telephone Networking, 1 Dice (130 R), 100%
--[x]Solving the Garbage Problem, 1 Dice (110 R), 82%
-[x]Bureaucracy (4/4 Dice, 0 R)
--[x]Dedicate Focus Towards a Project(Ural Regional Roads), 1 Dice
--[x]Locate a Deputy, 1 Dice
--[x]Authorize Farmer-Programs, 1 Dice
--[x]Electrification Drives, 1 Dice

 

[agumentic]

I strongly feel neither Heavy Industry nor Agriculture should be ignored in favour of really rushing out a lot of oil, even if it's important we complete at least two projects. Also, oil aside, I think we should do something about the price of Petrochemicals. It's too late to drop the price below the threshold now, but we can start on at least keeping it on the current level, if not dropping it next turn.

[X] Plan Price Recovery
-[X]4295/4340 Resources (45 Reserve), 46 Dice Rolled
-[X]Infrastructure (10/9 Dice, 900 R)
--[X]Western USSR Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 89%/100%
--[X]Ural Regional Roads, 4 Dice (360 R), 42%/52%
--[X]Caucuses Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 85%/100%
--[X]Central Asian Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 0%/0%
--[X]Central Asian High Capacity Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 0%/0%
--[X]Power Grid Expansions, 2 Dice (180 R), 74%/83%
-[X]Heavy Industry (6/5 Dice, 1030 R)
--[X]Bakchar Deposit Utilization(Stage 1/3), 2 Dice (260 R), 96%/99%
--[X]Sevastopol Technical Equipment Plants, 2 Dice (540 R), 30%/43%
--[X]Kuzbas Deposit Exploitation(Stage 3/5), 1 Dice (90 R), 98%/100%
--[X]Bryansk Truck Plant, 1 Dice (140 R), 91%/100%
-[X]Rocketry (2/2 Dice, 0 R)
--[X]Light Launcher Programs, 1 Dice
--[X]Outer System Probes, 1 Dice
-[X]Light and Chemical Industry (6/6 Dice, 720 R)
--[X]Caspian Sea Petrochemical Extraction(Stage 1/2), 3 Dice (390 R), 97%/99%
--[X]Samotor Field Development(Stage 1/3), 1 Dice (100 R), 84%/99%
--[X]Consumer Goods Production Grants(Stage 1/3), 1 Dice (90 R), 67%/82%
--[X]Synthetic Rubber Plants(Stage 2/4), 1 Dice (140 R), 22%/37%
-[X]Agriculture (8/6 Dice, 735 R)
--[X]Increasing Mechanization, 2 Dice (180 R), 86%/93%
--[X]Agricultural Grants, 2 Dice (220 R), 74%/83%
--[X]Universalization of the Food Program, 3 Dice (270 R), 62%/72%
--[X]Topsoil Preservation Programs, 1 Dice (65 R), 0%/0%
-[X]Services (10/10 Dice, 910 R)
--[X]Transportation Enterprises(Stage 2/5), 1 Dice (100 R), 100%/100%
--[X]Expanding State Catalogs, 3 Dice (210 R), 92%/96%
--[X]Universal Distribution Systems, 4 Dice (360 R), 77%/84%
--[X]Universalization of Telephone Networking, 1 Dice (130 R), 100%/100%
--[X]Solving the Garbage Problem, 1 Dice (110 R), 82%/97%
-[X]Bureaucracy (4/4 Dice, 0 R)
--[X]Electrification Drives, 1 Dice
--[X]Break Private Land Limits, 1 Dice
--[X]Tariff Compensation, 1 Dice
--[X]Reorganize a Department(Services), 1 Dice

Edit: If you do think we really need the oil, here's a version that does that.

[X] Plan Price Recovery (More Oil Edition)
-[X]4265/4340 Resources (75 Reserve), 46 Dice Rolled
-[X]Infrastructure (9/9 Dice, 810 R)
--[X]Western USSR Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 89%/100%
--[X]Ural Regional Roads, 4 Dice (360 R), 42%/52%
--[X]Caucuses Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 85%/100%
--[X]Central Asian Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 0%/0%
--[X]Power Grid Expansions, 2 Dice (180 R), 74%/83%
-[X]Heavy Industry (6/5 Dice, 1030 R)
--[X]Bakchar Deposit Utilization(Stage 1/3), 2 Dice (260 R), 96%/99%
--[X]Sevastopol Technical Equipment Plants, 2 Dice (540 R), 30%/43%
--[X]Kuzbas Deposit Exploitation(Stage 3/5), 1 Dice (90 R), 98%/100%
--[X]Bryansk Truck Plant, 1 Dice (140 R), 91%/100%
-[X]Rocketry (2/2 Dice, 0 R)
--[X]Light Launcher Programs, 1 Dice
--[X]Outer System Probes, 1 Dice
-[X]Light and Chemical Industry (7/6 Dice, 780 R)
--[X]Caspian Sea Petrochemical Extraction(Stage 1/2), 3 Dice (390 R), 97%/99%
--[X]Samotor Field Development(Stage 1/3), 3 Dice (300 R), 100%/100%
--[X]Consumer Goods Production Grants(Stage 1/3), 1 Dice (90 R), 67%/82%
-[X]Agriculture (8/6 Dice, 735 R)
--[X]Increasing Mechanization, 2 Dice (180 R), 86%/93%
--[X]Agricultural Grants, 2 Dice (220 R), 74%/83%
--[X]Universalization of the Food Program, 3 Dice (270 R), 62%/72%
--[X]Topsoil Preservation Programs, 1 Dice (65 R), 0%/0%
-[X]Services (10/10 Dice, 910 R)
--[X]Transportation Enterprises(Stage 2/5), 1 Dice (100 R), 100%/100%
--[X]Expanding State Catalogs, 3 Dice (210 R), 92%/96%
--[X]Universal Distribution Systems, 4 Dice (360 R), 77%/84%
--[X]Universalization of Telephone Networking, 1 Dice (130 R), 100%/100%
--[X]Solving the Garbage Problem, 1 Dice (110 R), 82%/97%
-[X]Bureaucracy (4/4 Dice, 0 R)
--[X]Electrification Drives, 1 Dice
--[X]Break Private Land Limits, 1 Dice
--[X]Tariff Compensation, 1 Dice
--[X]Reorganize a Department(Services), 1 Dice

Edit2: For those who are against Tariff Compensation action.

[X] Plan Price Recovery, Oil and Science
-[X]4265/4340 Resources (75 Reserve), 46 Dice Rolled
-[X]Infrastructure (9/9 Dice, 810 R)
--[X]Western USSR Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 89%/100%
--[X]Ural Regional Roads, 4 Dice (360 R), 42%/52%
--[X]Caucuses Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 85%/100%
--[X]Central Asian Regional Roads, 1 Dice (90 R), 0%/0%
--[X]Power Grid Expansions, 2 Dice (180 R), 74%/83%
-[X]Heavy Industry (6/5 Dice, 1030 R)
--[X]Bakchar Deposit Utilization(Stage 1/3), 2 Dice (260 R), 96%/99%
--[X]Sevastopol Technical Equipment Plants, 2 Dice (540 R), 30%/43%
--[X]Kuzbas Deposit Exploitation(Stage 3/5), 1 Dice (90 R), 98%/100%
--[X]Bryansk Truck Plant, 1 Dice (140 R), 91%/100%
-[X]Rocketry (2/2 Dice, 0 R)
--[X]Light Launcher Programs, 1 Dice
--[X]Outer System Probes, 1 Dice
-[X]Light and Chemical Industry (7/6 Dice, 780 R)
--[X]Caspian Sea Petrochemical Extraction(Stage 1/2), 3 Dice (390 R), 97%/99%
--[X]Samotor Field Development(Stage 1/3), 3 Dice (300 R), 100%/100%
--[X]Consumer Goods Production Grants(Stage 1/3), 1 Dice (90 R), 67%/82%
-[X]Agriculture (8/6 Dice, 735 R)
--[X]Increasing Mechanization, 2 Dice (180 R), 86%/93%
--[X]Agricultural Grants, 2 Dice (220 R), 74%/83%
--[X]Universalization of the Food Program, 3 Dice (270 R), 62%/72%
--[X]Topsoil Preservation Programs, 1 Dice (65 R), 0%/0%
-[X]Services (10/10 Dice, 910 R)
--[X]Transportation Enterprises(Stage 2/5), 1 Dice (100 R), 100%/100%
--[X]Expanding State Catalogs, 3 Dice (210 R), 92%/96%
--[X]Universal Distribution Systems, 4 Dice (360 R), 77%/84%
--[X]Universalization of Telephone Networking, 1 Dice (130 R), 100%/100%
--[X]Solving the Garbage Problem, 1 Dice (110 R), 82%/97%
-[X]Bureaucracy (4/4 Dice, 0 R)
--[X]Electrification Drives, 1 Dice
--[X]Break Private Land Limits, 1 Dice
--[X]Scientific Exchange Programs, 1 Dice
--[X]Reorganize a Department(Services), 1 Dice

 

[Vi'Talzin]

[]Agricultural Grants: Freeing money in the form of effectively low-interest loans to farmers has been a step, but further work can be done by providing money for modernization. Farms that are transitioning from the most primitive means of production can receive a set of one-time grants for the purchase of new equipment and the construction of new facilities. By putting the initiative in the hands of smaller farmers and limiting quantities purchased, most state farms can be worked around, allowing the money to be most efficiently spent. (120 Resources per Dice 0/100) (+2 Petroleum Fuels)

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Would really like to see all plans putting at least one dice here, this action is incredibly good for a few reasons

1. It bypasses the SoEs, who are defying the authority of the Ministry
2. Will do incredibly work in levelling off unequities in agriculture, delivering the Green Revolution to where it hasn't reached yet. Right now we have farms that are basically using oxen to plow the fields and no fertilizer/pesticides. The fact this consumes 2 Petroleum hints at how much work this action does in chemicalizing our farms.
3. This has incredible synergy with the breaking limits bureau action.

Anyway, highly recommend that we finish this ASAP. Though I do understand putting one dice in it due to concerns with petroleum prices.

 

[Red Rationalist]

I have to say that out of all existing plans so far, I'm most happy with augmentic Price Recovery. A good balance of policy choices, a decent focus on stabilizing oil prices via production and a combination of heavy industry choices that should stabilize both coal and steel. Overall, good investment choices, decent policy and sensible agricultural investment that should hopefully prevent the worst excesses by SOEs and help the non-party sector catch up.

So this plan has my vote.

[X] Plan Price Recovery
[X] Plan Price Recovery (More Oil Edition)