And Viserys knows this, and blood Raven knows Viserys knows, and Viserys knows blood Raven knows that he knows.

So they avoid talking about the past in the same way that Viserys and Rhaella avoid talking about the past.

Isn't family great?
 
I actually interpret Bloodraven's deal as more of a blind spot on Viserys' part. We have no way to know Bloodraven was responsible for approximately half of Euron Greyjoy's Batshit Insane braincase, and we assume straight up that Rhaegar was gripped by some other kind of craziness, since obsession isn't that odd in Targaryens.

I'm utterly sure that Bloodraven is keeping back a lot from us still, and only bringing it up when it is relevant, and he will claim in his defense that he only says something when it needs to be dealt with to counter enemy action/divination.

I mean, on some level that becomes "covering one's own ass", but it's hard to speak against that argument when we're chugging paranoia fuel to stay abreast and two steps ahead of all our enemies.

Just to list them all!

Robert Baratheon
Tywin Lannister
Demon Lord Abraxas, Master of the Final Incantation
She of Many Colors, Tiamat, Bitch Queen of the Universe
The Rider of Death, The Moon-Pale Maiden, Horseman of the Apocalypse
The Elder Brain, unspeakable is their name, lying in torpor for long ages when the world was young
Sseth, also known as Merrshaulk, who had darling and cute domains such as traps, poison and murder
Lloth
, who is a big enough threat on her own that she could probably take over the metaplot at any time she chose, if she wasn't already dealing with her own shitpile down below
The Great Other, Winter, possibly Iborighu, who is inexplicably stupid crazily powerful and literally main-lining Entropy as a domain, and can casually kill something so thoroughly that even their memory is destroyed, carving their existence away eternally for all time.
The Great Sultan of the Brazen Throne. May his hot red ass eternally fume in impotence at not being a God like the more impressive enemies on this list already are.
Euron motherfucking Greyjoy, a man so crazy that he could probably grab the power of a god by the balls with a warchest of Unravelings and other crazy Unobtanium plot devices to give him alternative "third option" plans, who also wouldn't hesitate making an enemy out of us since he'd never be satisfied with anything less than the most audacious throne on the market. YES EURON IS SCARIER THAN SOME QUASI-DEITIES BECAUSE OF HIS PLOT ARMOR.
LITERAL PLOT ARMOR. He has Valyrian Steel armor in the sixth book!
Mammon, AKA the Lootsnake. Bringer of Shinies. Purveyor of Useful Minions and Shitty Job Security. Our Piggybank.
Dispater, the Totally Bewildered Arch-Duke of the Second.
As this list goes on it becomes harder not to ridicule some of these mambajambas... they're just... bad. They're BAD at being bad! They don't mambajamba like they used to!

Maybe we're really the final boss. There's probably at least two flunkies on this list. Think Abraxas would return our calls still?
 
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I actually interpret Bloodraven's deal as more of a blind spot on Viserys' part. We have no way to know Bloodraven was responsible for approximately half of Euron Greyjoy's Batshit Insane braincase, and we assume straight up that Rhaegar was gripped by some other kind of craziness, since obsession isn't that odd in Targaryens.

I'm utterly sure that Bloodraven is keeping back a lot from us still, and only bringing it up when it is relevant, and he will claim in his defense that he only says something when it needs to be dealt with to counter enemy action/divination.

I mean, on some level that becomes "covering one's own ass", but it's hard to speak against that argument when we're chugging paranoia fuel to stay abreast and two steps ahead of all our enemies.

Just to list them all!

Robert Baratheon
Tywin Lannister
Demon Lord Abraxas, Master of the Final Incantation
She of Many Colors, Tiamat, Bitch Queen of the Universe
The Rider of Death, The Moon-Pale Maiden, Horseman of the Apocalypse
The Elder Brain, unspeakable is their name, lying in torpor for long ages when the world was young
Sseth, also known as Merrshaulk, who had darling and cute domains such as traps, poison and murder
Lloth
, who is a big enough threat on her own that she could probably take over the metaplot at any time she chose, if she wasn't already dealing with her own shitpile down below
The Great Other, Winter, possibly Iborighu, who is inexplicably stupid crazily powerful and literally main-lining Entropy as a domain, and can casually kill something so thoroughly that even their memory is destroyed, carving their existence away eternally for all time.
The Great Sultan of the Brazen Throne. May his hot red ass eternally fume in impotence at not being a God like the more impressive enemies on this list already are.
Euron motherfucking Greyjoy, a man so crazy that he could probably grab the power of a god by the balls with a warchest of Unravelings and other crazy Unobtanium plot devices to give him alternative "third option" plans, who also wouldn't hesitate making an enemy out of us since he'd never be satisfied with anything less than the most audacious throne on the market. YES EURON IS SCARIER THAN SOME QUASI-DEITIES BECAUSE OF HIS PLOT ARMOR.
Mammon, AKA the Lootsnake. Bringer of Shinies. Purveyor of Useful Minions and Shitty Job Security. Our Piggybank.
Dispater, the Totally Bewildered Arch-Duke of the Second.
As this list goes on it becomes harder not to ridicule some of these mambajambas... they're just... bad. They're BAD at being bad! They don't mambajamba like they used to!

Maybe we're really the final boss. There's probably at least two flunkies on this list. Think Abraxas would return our calls still?
Don't forget Nurgle who's still waiting for us in Essaria.

Also the Old Ones down in Leng.
 
Don't forget Nurgle who's still waiting for us in Essaria.

Also the Old Ones down in Leng.

I really think that what was in Essarian Dreamscape was Tiamat all along. Doing a dream sequence there brought the sleepers to her attention. Speaking of which, we need to fetch those three named, and the elusive fourth sleeper DP still dodges questions about (he's got something planned for him/her I tell you!)

The Old Ones, I really think are Illithid too, and the Lengii are the ancestors of the Gith.

Also, dont forget about the Azure Emperor Bu Gai. Who can resist that hook? Four Holy Beasts anyone?
Black Turtle, White Tiger, Vermillion Bird, Azure... Dragon (Dragonbowl of East and West hype!)
 
I really think that what was in Essarian Dreamscape was Tiamat all along. Doing a dream sequence there brought the sleepers to her attention.
It definitely wasn't Tiamat.
OOC: That was very close to... potentially having to make a bargain that would make Tiamat look like a reasonable well meaning person by comparison. You had very small chances of fighting what was coming even buffed to the gills.
 
I really think that what was in Essarian Dreamscape was Tiamat all along. Doing a dream sequence there brought the sleepers to her attention. Speaking of which, we need to fetch those three named, and the elusive fourth sleeper DP still dodges questions about (he's got something planned for him/her I tell you!)

The Old Ones, I really think are Illithid too, and the Lengii are the ancestors of the Gith.

Also, dont forget about the Azure Emperor Bu Gai. Who can resist that hook? Four Holy Beasts anyone?
Black Turtle, White Tiger, Vermillion Bird, Azure... Dragon (Dragonbowl of East and West hype!)

Don't you mean JIAN MOTHERFUCKING BING?! :lol:rofl:
 
Btw, does Amrelath still exist? i would think a dracolich in our service would be slightly more relavant, we should find something for him to do, i haven heard from him in ages.
... did he become someone familiar while we werent looking? is he going to materialize out of familiar space whenever we need him, and pretend he was there all along?
 
Btw, does Amrelath still exist? i would think a dracolich in our service would be slightly more relavant, we should find something for him to do, i haven heard from him in ages.
... did he become someone familiar while we werent looking? is he going to materialize out of familiar space whenever we need him, and pretend he was there all along?

He has the soul of a poet.

So he's probably busy becoming Planetos' version of Edgar Allen Poe.
 
[X] Azel

Ah. Let's hope this works. Looks interesting. Honestly, I find Azel's plans rather overcomplicated some time.

Edit : Are we sure that making so many changes is not going to attract Tiamat and worse?
 
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Omake: The Final Incantation
Maybe we're really the final boss. There's probably at least two flunkies on this list. Think Abraxas would return our calls still?

The Final Incantation

"Viserys something is happening, come here now!"

The voice of the headmistress of the shadow tower seemed to scream inside your head, the panic in her voice somehow seeping through the spell, you moved immediatly.

"Lya, with me, now!" Your lover changed from happy complacence to battle readiness in an instant, "Hestior, tell everyone to gather near the shadow tower as soon as possible, there is a situation", You saw the spirit moving for a second before you used magic to move the distance to the entrance, the stone plinth seeming to reverberate with power flowing from inside it.
You and Lya did not hesitate to step into its shadow, trusting the guards to keep the population away or to evacuate as needed.

"Teana! whats going on?" You called, the headmistress shadow was already waiting for you at the atrium to which the shadow portal opened to.

"Something is happening to the bindings, i think the might have been a flaw we did not spot in time, or perhaps there is something going on in the other side"

Abraxxas,
the thought chills your spine, long had you ignored the connection between your most sacred of places and his realm, now it seemed the Demon Lord of forbidden lore and magic had finally found a way to sever the connection, or worse, tear it open.

"
Evacuate the tower! this is not a foe we can defeat!" As you called the students rushed to the exit, somehow managing not to trample each other, the discipline of their training shining through, or perhaps the experience of multiple drills from her instructor, you would have to congratulate her if you both manage to survive.

"What do we do Viserys?" Lya called even as she started laying protective enchantments on you both and the room, perhaps hoping to gain a few seconds against the rapidly fraying spells and bindings.

"We leave too, we need to gather everyone, we cannot face a Demon Lord alone, Teana, send someone to the temple of Yss, and to the Merling King for good measure, we need all the help we can get"

You left the pocket dimension of the shadow tower and saw your sister and Maelor already arriving, a few legionnaires were already forming in the square, helping the evacuation along even as they awaited your order. Brave men, you think, but strenght of arms alone will not bring victory.

No sooner had a few more of your companions arrived when the plinth shook one last time, leaving behind a black rend into space, from which the Visage of the Lord of Diovengia began to emerge, the very skies began to darken as the earth shook to its core, Not an avatar then, but the Demon Lord in the flesh, a part of you wondered what you might craft from his remain should you somehow best him, but you supressed the thought as you knew it futile.

For a moment you prepare, your mind thinking of all the possibilities, would the demon lord agree to take the battle elsewhere, his pride overcoming his sense as it had other of your mightier foes? you think of an offer to make, even as you ready a spell to relocate yourself and friends far away, should he move against you. "What do..."

"Viserys! I am sorry to intrude like this, i know i should have called, but i feared you might not want to meet and i really needed to do this"

Abraxxas seemed... strange, almost coy, as two of his claws repeatedly make contact with each other near his chest, in an expression you are not sure what to make of.

"Look, i know you already probably called some contingencies, so i'm gonna be quick, I .. I cannot see you any longer, i realize now that it would never work, we are too different, you a draconic prince, me a Ruler of the Abyss, it is just that the stories got to me you know? i began to believe that something being impossible made it more worthy of pursuit, that star-crossed lovers was what was expected of people in our position, and not an idealization made for the entertainment of the masses, i know that making you into a dream was just as insulting as dismissing you entirely, for both the perfect and the inconsequential are mere objects in the mind, and for that i apologize"

"I.. ah, ok?"

"I knew you would take it well, my Amethyst prince, thats why i had to do this in person, so it could not go wrong, I'm seeing a therapist now, and i think i am getting better, so maybe in the future we can be friends? i am not ready for it now, but it gives me something to look forward to, but dont worry, i understand if you think its better to stay apart, anyway, i will never forget the time we spent together, i regret my expectations, not the time."

"I mean, yeah, get better, whatever you need, no hard feelings"

"Thank you, i must be going now, but before i leave, i commissioned a paint for us, i ... i can't have it anymore, too many feelings you see? but it would be such a shame to destroy it, so i want you to have it, do with it as you will, bye-bye"

You look in confusion at the painting now in your hands, the strange events from a few seconds ago replaying again and again in your mind as the Plinth returns to normal.


Behind you, the crowd seems just as shocked as you, even as some begin to murmur, Vee arrives a bit late, dragging a still groggy Yss behind her.

"Did everyone else see that, or was it just me?"

"We did" Says Maelor with a grin on his face, "And we are never letting you live it down".

You sigh exasperated, "Ok, nothing to see here, everyone disperse, Teana, see to it that the Shadow Tower is inspected and the wards repaired, we dont want a repeat incident, everyone else with me to the War Room, we need to discuss this.

You friend move into the room and take their seats, some visibly confused, Tyene and Glyra are giggling, probably planning some practical joke, you will have to be on your guard for the next few days.

"Alright, beside the obvious impossibility of everything that happened, how did this happen? how could we not know about the hole in the wards?"

"Oh, i totally knew" Says Lya, to your surprise and everyone elses,"You see, when i communed with the tower in Mantarys, he briefly took possession of my body, i managed to wrestle control from him pretty quickly, but since he never acted against you, i was curious and decided to had a chat, he just seemed so lonely, and honestly began to like us, so i negotiated with him to allow him some remote viewing in exchange for lore and aid, how did you guys think all our projects got completed so quickly?, i called it Lyaflix"
 
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Viserys: "You gods damned genius."
Lya: "Talk dirty to me more, baby. Mama's gotta get paid."
Viserys: "Wait, you're still transmitting?"
Lya: "Duh. I can't go back to being a pauper on the mean streets, sweetie! I gotta have my forbidden spell lore and devil tears directly from the source."
 
I know our enemies list is already quite extensive, but we should probably try scrying Ulthos at some point just to find out what's there.
 
I'm giving the thing a title so it does not get lost in the sands of time.
The imperial inquisition seeks to erase all mentions of the event, but new accounts keep appearing, a simple signature at the end of the page,

ʕᴥ· ʔ
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For example: could you name my pet issues?

Probably not. Because I'm keeping them on the back burner for now, until the time is right to argue about them again. I'm hoping for more supporters when the situation changes, because I got the feeling that many people were kinda "meh" about it all.

My pet issues:
Scholarum aspirant numbers enlargement, and proper establishment of peripheral recruiters (or even schools, or at least local offices) throughout our Empire.
FLYING CASTLES MOTHERFUCKER
Scry-and-Die some people, especially in Westeros. Lannister witch for example.
Researching more spells as rituals so we can have real Divination batteries and make more use of our Scholarum students.
Those are the big ones, but of course I have more!
The desire for mystic martial arts schools for our army is a ever burning fire in my breast.
I feel for your dreams. But they are as empty as mine in the grand scheme of things

The Thread will keep posting and posting and its agenda will be crushed under the weight of updates.
 
Ser Richard is working on that book. If you assign some proper days to it he might finish it by next month.
WAIT WHAT BOOK!!!!?
I was just doing my time traveling reply to a post from way back when and play up my persona as the memetic God of Likes and Thread Lurking.
I did not expect you to reply and What Book?
I am not sure how to process what is going on
Did Richard learn Kung Fu
Why did he learn Martila Disciplines I think you are suggesting?
What, who, were and why:o:o:o:o
Wheel of Time has shut down from sudden Hype surge
He will reboot in five minutes.
 
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