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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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- France
The latest interlude does a great job of showing why Bronn is the best baby PC we have, beyond even Valaena.
[He is a little wary of us too, even though we are a King. Good]
And if not, he could have been manageable. Easily. Greed, self-preservation, ambition... He has handles and we have both carrots and sticks for him.
So Bronn fights very very well. So well that even the prejudiced highborn who dislikes his personality, his behavior and his manners has to admit that he's the best.
And here, like Rhango, he proves that it's the meatheads who in fact have the best mental stats. This is a true understanding of the world unhindered by the stupid ideas of others. Dragons are cats. Dragons can't be trusted or even be lived near safely.
[He is a little wary of us too, even though we are a King. Good]
And here Valaena shows her inferiority. What Draconic Intelligence? If it does have any, it should be killed!
And here he shows that Valaena's great achievement this chapter (understanding the layout of the place) was also a thing he could do unconsciously. He has the best fighting skills, the best instincts, and the best social skills. Truly Bronn is a PC for the ages. Now if only we'd given him gear as good as other Pcs of his level and Diplomanced him a bit more, he could have been a Companion!
And if not, he could have been manageable. Easily. Greed, self-preservation, ambition... He has handles and we have both carrots and sticks for him.
- Location
- Germany
Adamantine is worth roughly 60 IM per pound.
The ships contain, with a very conservative estimate, nearly 200,000 pounds of the stuff in total.
So that's 12 million IM, just in raw Adamantine. Nothing enchanted yet. No work paid for. No other materials, which make up the bulk of the ship, accounted for yet.
So. Yeah. These guys are most certainly going to prefer death in combat to reporting this clusterfuck to their superiors.
The ships contain, with a very conservative estimate, nearly 200,000 pounds of the stuff in total.
So that's 12 million IM, just in raw Adamantine. Nothing enchanted yet. No work paid for. No other materials, which make up the bulk of the ship, accounted for yet.
So. Yeah. These guys are most certainly going to prefer death in combat to reporting this clusterfuck to their superiors.
- Location
- Germany
Actually...
@Goldfish, I have to cordially ask you to not touch more then at most a ton of it. Maybe 10 tons, if we are feeling like taking a huge risk.
I think we just found the necessary seed money and material reserve for our currency. It will still take limited reserve banking and some financial shenanigans to get the ball rolling, but this is a lot sturdier then the hot-air blimp I was dreading.
@Goldfish, I have to cordially ask you to not touch more then at most a ton of it. Maybe 10 tons, if we are feeling like taking a huge risk.
I think we just found the necessary seed money and material reserve for our currency. It will still take limited reserve banking and some financial shenanigans to get the ball rolling, but this is a lot sturdier then the hot-air blimp I was dreading.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
Also goes to show that only being literally alien in outlook allows societies like the Efreeti have to function. Because the bastards would have all been deposed long ago if Efreeti did not somehow think this was mostly fine, barring the extreme outliers.
- Location
- France
The fact that this amount of money is enough to be the foundation of our entire economy and yet isn't a huge deal for the Shaitan leadership really says a lot about the power disparity between us.
- Location
- Sweden
I bet DP is very sorry he put in story a description, that was made on basis of "rule of cool", yet one that was possible to calculate to such a point
This stuff is nearly economy-breaking.
Not the first time somebody in the thread Math'ed DP making him go: "shit shit shit" with the pay-to-win balance.
(The whole no meta balance overhaul really made this alot more enjoyable.
Cant wait till we have Planetos mostly under control and can create a Old Gods grove in PoE, PoA, PoW, MS.)
- Location
- United States
I took the liberty of trying to figure out how much it would actually take to equip every Minotaur like @Goldfish wanted.
There's 47 Minotaur Fighters currently if you count Argo among their number (this is excluding the ones that were recently trained since DP hasn't given us those numbers yet), and they're all Large. If they were medium, assuming each set of Reinforced Segmented Fullplate weighed 55 lbs. as is standard, we'd be looking at 2530 lbs.
For standard conversion of weights from Medium to Large we've been using a multiplier of 8, so...
2530 lbs x 8 = 20,240 lbs or 10.12 tons
... You know what, this is too much. The Minotaurs can have regular steel armor. We can equip champions, like Argo, Aubert Flowers, etc, but on a scale this big I'd much rather have the adamantium be used to save our economy rather than making our tanks a bit tankier. They're fine. We didn't lose a single one of them in their first real battle, and they've only gotten stronger since then.
This is what saves our economy.I bet DP is very sorry he put in story a description, that was made on basis of "rule of cool", yet one that was possible to calculate to such a point
This stuff is nearly economy-breaking.
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
As @Duesal already pointed out, even if this is just one ship's worth of combatants, we don't have the Initiative in this round, with only Dany and Rina being guaranteed to be able to act before the Efreeti get to hit us with whatever surprise they're sure to have. If Rina can wipe out most of the Efreeti, that conserves everyone else's resources and buys time for Viserys, who is our normal AoE bombardment specialist, to reenter combat. Boreal Wind also has a duration of seven rounds, so it will continue to be an extremely dangerous obstacle for the Efreeti who might show up to attack us.
Those ships aren't going anywhere just yet, not without them sending several Efreeti to go hack apart the Wall of Scales binding all three of them tightly together. That Wall has DR 10/Magic, Immunity to Fire and Acid, and 120 HP, and will last for 13 minutes. It's not going anywhere for the time being.
Don't worry, as @Duesal also pointed out (he's on a roll this morning), it would actually require a rather hilariously large amount of the stuff to equip all of our MInotaurs with Adamantine Fullplate. Ten tons set aside for use with champions and elite units should be plenty.
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tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
Valaena want an intelligent dragon, she's made Dawnfyre her animal companion, with plans to boost it's int stat, so Dawnfyre might already have a little extra intelligence.
- Location
- United States
Let's see... In line for Adamantium armor is Argo, Aubert Flowers, maybe a Stone Giant PC if we manage to get one from the fifteen who we convinced to live under our rule, and also Ser Richard after Lya learns Runecrafting. Valyrian Steel is downright disappointing as an armor due to a lack of DR, so the second Lya's strong enough for something truly impressive which should be relatively soon all things considered, he's getting an upgrade.
Also, the DR thing was bugging me... Should we give each general of the Legions a suit of Reinforced Segmented Adamantium Fullplate instead of Reinforced Segmented Valyrian Steel Fullplate? I mean, sure, Valyrian Steel is very prestigious and all, but again, no DR. We could always make it a set -- each Legion General gets adamantium armor, and a Valyrian Steel blade (which conveniently have DR-piercing properties) to be passed down to all successor generals, basically their own regalia. Best of all worlds.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
Poor Armor of Remembrance. To sit in an armory gathering dust until we can find another PC to wear it. It has served us well.
- Location
- United States
There were plans to foist it onto Thoros Voronys after we succeed in turning him into a PC. He's the one who's Laerys' descendant, after all.
- Location
- France
That wasn't an idea that the thread received calmly. I still have strong misgivings about this.
Still, this is better than outright Awakening it I guess
- Location
- United States
I would have been a lot more comfortable with outright telling her, "No, no smart Valyrian Dragon for you. That is a spectacularly bad idea, and now you get to sit through a lecture on why it's a bad idea so you don't try to get clever and do it on your own. If you insist on having something sentient to ride, you get a wyvern instead."That wasn't an idea that the thread received calmly. I still have strong misgivings about this.
Still, this is better than outright Awakening it I guess
Hopefully her dragon never manages to Awaken. That would not be fun to deal with.
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
I'm fairly certain that part of convincing DP to let Vaelana bond with the Valyrian Dragon as an Animal Companion involved removing the ability for the bonded Companion's Intelligence attribute to be increased. @DragonParadox?That wasn't an idea that the thread received calmly. I still have strong misgivings about this.
Still, this is better than outright Awakening it I guess
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
Personally I still think we should have bonded it to her as a Familiar, the intelligence would have stuck around, but so would the alignment change, and if the awakening should awaken Red dragon instincts, dealing with that while it's still an infant is easier.That wasn't an idea that the thread received calmly. I still have strong misgivings about this.
Still, this is better than outright Awakening it I guess
Part MMCCLXXII: Upon a Sea of Flame Part Five
Upon a Sea of Flame Part Five
Sixth Day of the Fifth Month 293 AC
What follows is not battle, for battles can be won or lost upon a twist of fortune or a skillful retort. It is instead a massacre. No fortune could have spared the Efreeti their fate, no skill would have warded off the lance of gleaming ice that struck three of the fiery spirits through even as they took form once more. Three warriors of the Great Sultan, flaming scourges upon the backs of his foes, fall like reaped grain, unable even to scream as the unearthly wind freezes the very breath in their lungs.
Two others find themselves vomiting weakly upon the once spiked plates of the ship with only the last trio alone managing to charge you, their blades still bright red, still touched by the fire of the forge that birthed them, for all the good that will do them. Bestial features, the remnant of some ancient curse wrought upon their kin for their treacherous ways, further twist in fear as blows that might cut the legs from under a giant barely part your scales.
"Honorless curs!" one rasps as Ser Richard cuts open his back and decapitates the warrior besides him in the same smooth motion, sending the horned head clattering over the side and into the sea of boiling oil.
You take 26 Damage
Just as you turn your eyes to the last warrior, thinking to ask him to surrender, a trio of dusty golden rays shine out from the hatches opened on the ship to your left, all three of them striking Rina. Before you can so much as shout a warning, bolt after bolt of impossible concussive force like the wrath of a chained storm directed towards a single point pours out.
Rina loses 20 Temporary Hit Points
Rina takes 37 Damage
If not for Dany's wards deflecting or blunting the attack Rina would have been consumed by lightning or ripped apart by thunder, you know with chill certainty. Even so, the sudden vicious assault leaves the young mage reeling and unable to find her bearings until Tyene rushes over, stepping nimbly across empty air to heal her with a touch while empowered by a pouch held in her left hand as a talisman against the weapons of the enemy.
Rina heals 46 Damage
Seeing the danger, Waymar responds with his own blows of lightning wrought through the open hatches. The first two bolts seem to do nothing, but on the fifth a deafening roar of thunder booms out, seeming to shake the very heavens. The ship cracks open like an egg, even adamantine tearing asunder under the titanic forces of magic running wild.
A thing of wrath and thunder rises from the wreck, a living storm, still bright with orange fore like sores upon its otherworldly form, abroad and lose once more. It throws itself upon the last Efreeti Warrior facing you, tearing him limb from limb, not even seeming to care for your presence, the unnatural blizzard, or anything beyond its thirst for vengeance.
"We need to silence the other ship before it can bring its weapons to bear!" Dany shouts, her voice amplified by magic so she can be heard over the thunderous voice of the storm spirit unleashed.
What do you do?
[] Try to calm the lightning elemental, explaining that its former jailers are also your foes, you would rather have something to loot out of all this
-[] Write in
[] Banish the elemental, this is no time for reasoned discussion, and you need to silence those weapons before they can launch another volley
-[] Write in
[] Write in
OOC: The ships were never supposed to be unarmed. For anyone wondering why the magi-tech guns shoot thunder lightning, it's because they sail the Sea of Fire where most everything has fire immunity.
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Massgamer
Advance toward the Future
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- The Future
@DragonParadox just to be clear the ship that fired upon Rina is destroyed from Waymar's attack breaking it free so the only ships left are the one we are standing on and the other on our right yeah?
Also we should assume that if they were using a Lighting Elemental to power their lighting guns on that ship that should mean there are at least two more still trapped.
Also we should assume that if they were using a Lighting Elemental to power their lighting guns on that ship that should mean there are at least two more still trapped.
Yes, though just the one ship fired three times, so presumably the other two elementals freed y the explosion were sent back to their home plane.
Melees on a Dragon
