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Maybe in a few months Viserys can make a formal proposal? It's clear he wants to do it, but he's still a bit awkward about the idea.
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lancelot
Completely worth it
Well for our Lawmen and new members of the Legion we obviously have them give oaths of loyalty, or at least that they won't betray us. While using Zone of Truth, Geas, and/or Mark of Justice to sort out those that want to join for the right reason from those that don't.
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If it doesn't involve asking her very soon after arriving on the Plane of Air, fite me irl!
Edit: @lancelot 100% against this. Erodes the perception that Viserys trusts the legion, takes too much effort, we don't need perfect loyalty, and you should have faith in what @Azel @Snowfire @Diomedon have achieved with Viserys' Diplo score. The man has a couple of independent low level cults, who probably have gone to the effort to find out their King (Messiah/god in flesh) would not like that he's being worshipped and as such are thoughtfully hiding away.
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Not really, no.
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I disagree about waiting a few months or just pretending it isn't an issue. Viserys has already waited a few months, while it wasn't as big a deal in SD. We're not just in SD anymore, we should settle it due to political considerations, if nothing else. Lya is Visery's wife in literally every way that counts, up to and including the greater feelings of anger he gets when she is slighted. Them not marrying is making life harder at court for us and in diplomacy, because all the messages it is sending are wrong. We're not available to court. Lya is not a temporary thing. Lya is not somehow lesser in our eyes, beneath our stature to marry. People can't play games to steal her position, or remove her. All the signals we send by not marrying her are ones Viserys disagrees with, and will be frustrated in having to explain again and again that she should be respected on the level one would expect for Viserys's wife, when Viserys himself isn't moving to marry her.
It's becoming a political issue. Just continuing to ignore it and letting is fester isn't to our benefit.
I'd prefer Braavos, after visiting her old mentor in the Moonsinger's temple, because I'm a sucker for that type of sentimentality.
It's becoming a political issue. Just continuing to ignore it and letting is fester isn't to our benefit.
If it doesn't involve asking her very soon after arriving on the Plane of Air, fite me irl!
I'd prefer Braavos, after visiting her old mentor in the Moonsinger's temple, because I'm a sucker for that type of sentimentality.
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That will take way longer then two days we have left for this month. Action for next turn.
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Marrying after a few months sounds precipitous.
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Lya gets scorned by the court? Turns out she prefers it since she gets to neatly avoid the fawning sycophants.
People try to maneuver themselves by marrying their daughters to Viserys? Good. They'll fail, and we have the option to use that against them in political maneuvering by singling out the stupider parties ahead of time.
Someone tries to get rid of Lya? Good luck. Seriously. Good luck.
I'm just not at all concerned by this, and I think you're really blowing it out of proportion. The majority of our problems are immediately solved by Viserys' diplomacy score.
EDIT: I won't object to a faster marriage, but I firmly protest the idea that it's a noticeable problem for us right now.
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A lot of people consider it weird to not marry within the first year in modern times.
To be honest, I simply want to finally get to that proposal and marriage. I give a flying fuck about what the Tyroshi think one way or another.
egoo
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Okay, I'm not arguing the matter, but at least some of catacombs, as far as free party members can delve in these 2 days?
Loot, Xp and all that jazz aside, there are likely undead inside still.
And I don't want anything getting out, even if it's low-level.
They can finish it next month too.
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@Azel I dont know, having Yss remake an entire district sounds like a good way to flaunt magic. Also evangelizing his snekness.
Atleast can pay Yss HDs for masonry, maybe something with a green tint, durable, and scalepatterns. Can call it snekstone.
Also couldnt we hire peasants to tear down slums for brick?
Atleast can pay Yss HDs for masonry, maybe something with a green tint, durable, and scalepatterns. Can call it snekstone.
Also couldnt we hire peasants to tear down slums for brick?
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Yeah, this.
Go ahead and have them marry, but what the Tyroshi think should play absolutely nothing into it.
Their opinions are irrelevant.
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I'm just suggesting they talk and have open communication in their relationship about something that will become a more recurring and bigger issue for them. I'm not suggesting they run off and elope.
Like...the Tyroshi only matter because it's going to bring up the topic that they both have not talked about because the Tyroshi are inevitably going to be idiots and draw attention to it. Having a big white elephant conversation in a relationship that neither party feels comfortable bringing up is not good for the relationship. It's not for the sake of Tyroshi I'm suggesting this.
Edit: It having become political means it will intrude on their daily lives more often, and they don't even know what pages there are, much less if they're on the same page because they haven't talked about it (to horribly abuse a cliche metaphor).
Like...the Tyroshi only matter because it's going to bring up the topic that they both have not talked about because the Tyroshi are inevitably going to be idiots and draw attention to it. Having a big white elephant conversation in a relationship that neither party feels comfortable bringing up is not good for the relationship. It's not for the sake of Tyroshi I'm suggesting this.
Edit: It having become political means it will intrude on their daily lives more often, and they don't even know what pages there are, much less if they're on the same page because they haven't talked about it (to horribly abuse a cliche metaphor).
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FTFY
The thing is, I don't see us ever finding that perfect moment to propose and marry her in the next 10 years. Not when we got 2 continents to conquer and one to settle from the ground up.
I don't have any reasons for doing it now, but has anyone a good reason why it shouldn't be done now?
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No, no objections on my part. My only objection was the idea that the Tyroshi's opinions were worth a damn thing. Political considerations are utterly irrelevant when you're a dragon ruling over a bunch of NPCs, and your wife-to-be is a powerful mage.
EDIT: We could start giggling like a loon and shriek at the sight of fire, and they'd have to go along with it. Because we are a dragon and they are flammable.
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Because it pushes the "next step" forward, having children.
I want that as far away as possible, preferably several human lifetimes and far beyond the scope of this quest.
Better to argue now against marriage than then against kids.
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The perfect moment to ask her to marry us will come. Aren't we going to explore the Plane of Air soon? Sororythos?
Just make sure to go there with Lya (and with a ring of some kind that she didn't craft - if possible that isn't even magical - we could make one ourselves with enough skill buffs), and ask DP to give us a vote when a perfect vista comes up and we aren't about to fight for our lives.
Just make sure to go there with Lya (and with a ring of some kind that she didn't craft - if possible that isn't even magical - we could make one ourselves with enough skill buffs), and ask DP to give us a vote when a perfect vista comes up and we aren't about to fight for our lives.
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Just a few more levels and Lya can have a dedicated body for having kids.
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Artemis has the (justified) opinion that active adventurers should never have children because it introduces a huge vulnerability.
Just look at the idiot Lannisters who decided to have kids. I hear it was a perfect target for devils.
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That's someone's weird kink. I just know it.
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So does Rhealla, as it was just proven. There is no such thing as perfect safety.