@Tomcost there are no Thanadaemons loose on Prime Material. Those were the three slain / banished during Tyrosh conquest, which we now know the name of so we can summon and finish the job.
There were 4. We banished one, turtled another, and the other 2 teleported away.
I understood that, at least.
Damn it, minutes too late.
Nah, one for living parts of nature (animal and plants), one for elemental nature.I still want the pair of twins to go for a plant and animal specialization each
We can grow four Heart Trees with Day of Blood alone, and depending on the artifacts we have for sacrifice we can grow one or two more. This is what's currently slated for growth.Ah, a good ol' "Forbidden Section" to our library. Always puts a smile to my face.
Anyway, what heart trees are we considering? I'd like to point out we don't need to make T3 ones if the third effect is just "nice". T1-2 trees spread all over could help with the various minor projects we want, like Tongues and Magic Circle on a market place.
Tree of Tyrosh
CL 20 Hallow Effect
Secondary Effect 1: Exorcism
Secondary Effect 2: Remove Disease
Secondary Effect 3: Heart's Ease
Tree of Dawn Fruit Mass Production
CL 20 Hallow Effect
Secondary Effect 1: Plant Growth
Secondary Effect 2: Plant Growth
Secondary Effect 3: Plant Growth
Philosopher's Tree
CL 20 Hallow Effect
Secondary Effect 1: Wisdom of the Ages
Secondary Effect 2: Tongues
Secondary Effect 3: Discern Lies
Tree of Westhaven
CL 20 Hallow Effect
Secondary Effect 1: Heart's Ease
Secondary Effect 2: Remove Disease
Secondary Effect 3: ???
Defense Tree
CL 20 Hallow Effect
Secondary Effect 1: Magic Vestment (+5 Enhancement bonus to AC for 20 hours)
Secondary Effect 2: Greater Magic Weapon (+5 Enhancement bonus to weapon attacks & damage for 20 hours)
Secondary Effect 3: Heart of Earth (+30 Temporary Hit Points plus secondary effects for 20 hours, and emergency DR 10/Adamantine 20 rounds)
Nah, one for living parts of nature (animal and plants), one for elemental nature.
Edit: For example, take the Storm Druid variant from pathfinder, then Air as first Domain and later Fire or Earth as the additional one.
This is a good point, but we are now just going to take care of looters and common criminals. We've voted to grow the Tree of Tyrosh afterwards, but the details of that were pushed back to a dedicated vote.Damn it, minutes too late.
@Azel, as a reminder, Heart Trees are not just useful propaganda pieces. They're also teaching tools. Every time we grow one we should have our baby druids-to-be there to watch. The first chance we get we need to bring Reva and Liset here. I've gotten explicit confirmation from DP that them watching the growth of a Heart Tree -- a Tier-3 Heart Tree no less -- improves their perception and understanding of the magic of the Old Gods.
Also, it wouldn't hurt to have Soft Strider help out as well.
You wanted druids? This will get the druids faster.
One of them could speak and translate for the other.Also because I want one of the twins to have speak with plants at will. Imagine the shenanigans they can pull via speaking with animals and plants, animal and plant shape, and telepathy between them
Just giving you a heads up in case I'm asleep again while the vote happens. It'd be a shame if we simply forgot about it.This is a good point, but we are now just going to take care of looters and common criminals. We've voted to grow the Tree of Tyrosh afterwards, but the details of that were pushed back to a dedicated vote.
We can add the twins and Softstrider then.
One of them could speak and translate for the other.
I'm more looking towards the endgame, when one of them leads armies of overly-buffed animals in her own monstrous shape while the other calls down lightning and cracks the earth.
Okay.They won't reach that stage. But what I want will make the early levels more interesting
Already asked DP about the Alter Fortune idea. It was shot down. Mortal magic cannot influence a divine ritual. Wish, maybe, but we don't have Wish and even if we did it would never be spent on this.@Duesal, we should have a single vote for all the trees and just get it done. Then votes for speechifying each time as needed.
4 trees you said?
I want a Tyrosh Tree, a Philosopher's Tree, a Defence Tree and a Dawn Fruit Mass Production Tree. Then we can make a Night's Watch tree with artefacts (and Alter Fortune if needed)
It's not like we won't do a lot of gardening in the next days.Just giving you a heads up in case I'm asleep again while the vote happens. It'd be a shame if we simply forgot about it.
We already have Leshys who can do the initial prep-work:Correct me if I'm wrong, but the whole point of the Dawn Fruit Mass Production Tree is that humans can't have contact with the crop as it is growing, right? Weren't we going to have Leshys or other plant creatures do the tending and harvesting of these trees? If we don't have them in place to take this over, will this be okay until we do get them?
Just have the best gardeners and engineers we have access to draw up plans for a self-sustaining irrigation system, pick out a reasonably secluded spot on Sorcerer's Deep to grow the Heart Tree, dig up the irrigation system, plant the Dawn Fruit Trees at appropriate distances from the center and each other, have the Leshys present for initial work, and then grow the Heart Tree.
Yeah, and they're going to be there for all of it.It's not like we won't do a lot of gardening in the next days.
I would prefer to have the Leshys in place when we grow that tree, so we should definitely set the Fungus Forge on Leshy production.Correct me if I'm wrong, but the whole point of the Dawn Fruit Mass Production Tree is that humans can't have contact with the crop as it is growing, right? Weren't we going to have Leshys or other plant creatures do the tending and harvesting of these trees? If we don't have them in place to take this over, will this be okay until we do get them?