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That isn't an example. Where are the dates? Names? Places?
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
Yeah I was thinking something like Circle of truth tree, I'm willing to go on compromise though, I see I can't get you to agree to execute all those fucking murderers, can I at least get you to compromise, on executing all who were known to use cruel and unusual execution methods, such as was done to the slave that commander fell in love with?
I at least don't want those who wouldn't even give their slaves the dignity of a quick death, to get away with their sins.
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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@DragonParadox On the topic of attributes for our mages, there is going to be an issue with our Minotaur Oracle. A Minotaur typically has a Charisma score of 8. Can Grove Tender at least start with a 14, maybe as a part of a blessing from the OG? A bit more Intelligence and Wisdom wouldn't be amiss, either, but I won't hold my breath on that one.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
Sorry can't do better than that, I'm fairly sure I have seen examples of retroactive laws in a lot of things I have read, but I can't remember exactly where.
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- Mexico
I dont think that particular execution applies (was mostly political i think), but yeah, those guys need to go.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
It applies because he didn't keep to killing her, that alone would be pretty bad, but he had to go a step further and have her tortured to death, whether it was political or not, don't change the fact that he had a slave tortured to death, because his brother fell in love with her.
dpara
slightly confused ascendant
[X] Azel
We should probably stress some sort of urgency so that we can blend over an eventual codeword exchange (I don't expect it for daemons, but hey)
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Uff, a discussion aboutdenazification deslaverifaction this can only go great. 
Striking the fine line of getting rid of too many from the top down crippling the city functioning, and not enough keeping future problems in power.
So I propose to deal with the big houses in a fashion like this;
a) daemon adjacent? everyone involved dies. mixed between tree and decapitation.
b) total shits? the leadership dies and dispossession. decapitation.
c) neutral? they of course loose their slaves but get some of the total shits estates as compensation.
Why give the neutrals stuff? Well we're probably not going to exterminate the entire total shit family tree. But it will keep keep them from our back and at the same time embroil them in a conflict with the remnants of the total shit houses.
On another note, our Legions should probably go through the streets/houses to explicitly "safely" separate the slaves from their owners.
We should probably stress some sort of urgency so that we can blend over an eventual codeword exchange (I don't expect it for daemons, but hey)
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Uff, a discussion about
Striking the fine line of getting rid of too many from the top down crippling the city functioning, and not enough keeping future problems in power.
So I propose to deal with the big houses in a fashion like this;
a) daemon adjacent? everyone involved dies. mixed between tree and decapitation.
b) total shits? the leadership dies and dispossession. decapitation.
c) neutral? they of course loose their slaves but get some of the total shits estates as compensation.
Why give the neutrals stuff? Well we're probably not going to exterminate the entire total shit family tree. But it will keep keep them from our back and at the same time embroil them in a conflict with the remnants of the total shit houses.
On another note, our Legions should probably go through the streets/houses to explicitly "safely" separate the slaves from their owners.
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- Mexico
A dick move to be sure, but It was meant to be a message, not because he enjoyed It.
We should Focus on the repeat offenders, the brother could quality, but i dont think this one crime is enough to justify It to the masses.
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@TalonofAnathrax Remember the idea is to use Dragonlance Age of Mortals' Adacemy Sorcerer as a base class.
We will have to dedicate some time to it, but it's completely worth it. Actual class features!
Do you have the Supreme Court assemble at 3am, with the minimum quorum of 3 (out of 11), to judge (read absolve) high-profile politicians?
Do you have it so it's trivially easy for anyone that's elected for anything through one of the main parties to get any judicial case sent wherever they prefer, so a judge will sit on it for ten years so the crime is, I don't know the term in English, but essentially they can't be judged guilty anymore?
In fact, watch The Mechanism. If anything, what's shown there is downright tame. It's a fantastic show, too.
In fact, anything involving the rule of law is a complete sham. Drowning in bureocracy, getting raped by taxes, the sheer ridiculousness of the judiciary... You either cheat hard, or you go nowhere. Everyone but the 0.01% has an unfathomable millstone around their necks since before they were even born.
I've been planning to get a Green Card since I was something like ten years old. All it took was to watch the news for a bit.
We will have to dedicate some time to it, but it's completely worth it. Actual class features!
You live in the US, right? It's not that bad, is it?
Do you have the Supreme Court assemble at 3am, with the minimum quorum of 3 (out of 11), to judge (read absolve) high-profile politicians?
Do you have it so it's trivially easy for anyone that's elected for anything through one of the main parties to get any judicial case sent wherever they prefer, so a judge will sit on it for ten years so the crime is, I don't know the term in English, but essentially they can't be judged guilty anymore?
In fact, watch The Mechanism. If anything, what's shown there is downright tame. It's a fantastic show, too.
In fact, anything involving the rule of law is a complete sham. Drowning in bureocracy, getting raped by taxes, the sheer ridiculousness of the judiciary... You either cheat hard, or you go nowhere. Everyone but the 0.01% has an unfathomable millstone around their necks since before they were even born.
I've been planning to get a Green Card since I was something like ten years old. All it took was to watch the news for a bit.
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Shh! Let's just carefully avoid mentioning him and hopefully he might level in the background without anyone noticing his stats!
More serious he could just have a different state distribution - weaker, but with more mental stats?
He doesneed huge ones seeing as he won't be casting spells where saves matter. He should be healing and bugging after all, and then going melee (he is a minotaur after all).
Vote closed.
iggyfan
Verified Man-Thing
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- Kentucky
The phrase your looking for is statute of limitations.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
That's where we differ, I consider one count of torturing someone to death quite enough to be punished, he might only have done it the once, but that's still once he had someone tortured to death.
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He has a racial -2 to Charisma. Just say he started with a 16 and has 14 after adjustment.
Good enough. We don't need to micromanage every vaguely named character. We make easy templates for our minions.
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- Mexico
Maybe we can discreetly arrange for him to die peacefully in his sleep (stress most likely)?
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- France
No need to too much homebrew (and doing that removes the Dragonblood Sorcerer Substitution level, and we really need that bonus feat).
Sorcerers auto-qualify after level 2 thanks to their skills and Precocious Apprentice, so they can do Dragonblood Sorcerer 1/Sorcerer+1/Academy Sorcerer +4
What extra feats should we get them?
I like Versatile Spellcaster at level 3, and at level 4 retraining Precocious Apprentice into Searing Spell. Then at level 5 we get a bonus metamagic feat from Academy Sorcerer, and I suggest Agonising Flames.
Edit: At level 6, I like the idea of taking Arcane Thesis. Maybe on Fireball? I wanted their Spell Known to be Shrink Item though... Maybe we could give them something like Expanded Arcana? Or Fiery Spell?
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What do you mean? You need 2nd level spells and 8 ranks in skills to qualify normally.
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- USA
if a slave takes revenge would mandatory military service work after investigating?
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
That's too much trouble and we don't know about him IC, I would rather just make it a general policy that while former slavers wont be punished, those who had tendencies towards cruelty will, even if those tendencies only came out when the slave angered them, meaning they either hurt the slave far more than the misdeed would merit in most households, or in the cases where they killed them, they didn't give them a quick death.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
Do we really want Sorcerers who can burn us, though?
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We were thinking on doing Super Pyromaniacs, and you need Searing for that. I'm not keen on Agonizing.
We can do something like:
1 - Draconic Heritage
Human - Spellcasting Prodigy
Flaw - Bloodline of Fire
Flaw - Draconic Power
3 - Fire Bloodline
Bonus - Searing Spell
6 - Expanded Arcana
Bonus - Fiery Burst
You realize, we take half damage due our fire immunity, right? And someone casting Acid/Electricity would do more damage, not to mention Cold?
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I must be using a bad site then. I saw 5 ranks in the skills. Where should I be looking for the class?
Please. They'll never even pierce our spell resistance! Or hit our AC!
I want effective minions. No level 6 spellcaster is a threat to us anyway.
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Dragonlance Age of Mortals.
Also, see the post above yours. If spellcasting prodigy won't fly, we can do Versatile Spellcaster.
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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I'm aware that other nations have it worse than we do.
My issue is with the way we punish crimes, and the disproportionate nature of sentencing. In the USA it's fully possible, and happens with unfortunate regularity, for someone to be sentenced to a longer stay in prison for transporting a relatively small quantity of marijuana than if they committed coldblooded murder or raped a child.
There are nearly 2.2 million people in prison in the USA, and a significant portion of them are serving time for what should amount to trivial drug-related crimes, especially for stuff like marijuana and prescription medicine. Prison is not a good place, and putting that many people behind bars only breeds a more callous, experienced sort of criminal. We are basically creating hardcore criminals from minor offenders, and it costs us a stupidly huge amount of money each year to do it.
Meanwhile, the true criminals who should be put to death or serving the rest of their lives in a hard labor camp somewhere in the Alaskan hinterlands, can enjoy all the comforts of home, including free medical care (often including unnecessary cosmetic procedures), free college education, climate-controlled housing, on-staff nutritionists, etc.
And don't even get me started on the effects of turning our prison system over to corporations to run. Whoever thought that was a good idea should be shot.
Sorry if I got a bit ranty, this is one of my pet peeves.
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