A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Found it!
[ ] "Legionnaires. This is your King, Viserys Targaryen, and I would like to share some words with each of you.
-[ ] "We go to battle together this day. On the horizon lies Tyrosh, estranged daughter of Valyria the Lost, and it is festering pile of stones wrought off the backs of men's despair and the blood of innocents."
-[ ] "Though as it stands now, it is even worse than that, for those are merely human follies, the mistakes of a bloody age left uncorrected until now. But there are darker machinations afoot. Among the misery wrought by the greed and contempt to fellow man, the seeds of corruption are bearing fruit. Feasting on the foulness and debauchery, a cancerous tumor has grown within this city."
-[ ] "Each of you has come to know the face of these vile creatures. The face of the true enemy, not of just our nation, but to all of mankind. I have shown you their guise and gaiety, how they revel in their atrocities and what glee they show as they visit their dark artifice upon the world of man. For while fellow men may be compelled to lay down their arms and in turn grant quarter, these creatures will show no mercy to you and neither can they ever be granted such."
-[ ] "The enemy you face today is not simply slaver, slave-soldier or common sellsword alone. Were they just that, this battle would be easily won. For you are the might that I cast farther afield, sight unseen, a force of arms that shall shake the world unto a new age entire. With blood and sweat you earned skill that equals, nay, surpasses all of them and garbed in spell-wrought steel, their blows will be no worse than rain to you."
-[ ] "But today you also face a graver threat. Fiends. The ilk of Abaddon, the plague-ridden and hateful. Our full might shall be leveraged to end this threat to all of our fellows, for to ensure peace and stability in the times to come, they must be stopped."
-[ ] "Before today the men, women and children of Tyrosh knew only pain and loss, preyed upon by such as these, mere food and fuel for their mad crusade against the works of men, nay, civilization entire. Who else but us can oppose them? Who would beggar themselves to save the world but those of noble heart and dutiful mind? This cancer grew not in an isolated wasteland, but in the heart of a great city and instead of purging it, it's lords ignored it in favor of their petty power plays. Or worse. They allied with the monsters in their midst to further their vain desires. Remember this when you walk these streets tonight. Remember that we come not as conquerors, but as liberators. We will be the light that banishes the darkness. We will succeed where others failed, for our cause is just and righteous. For our conviction is strong and our minds free of doubt."
-[ ] "I will not ask if you yet stand with me even knowing the tasks that lay ahead of you--I know you do!"
-[ ] "I will not ask if you will lay down your life to save this city, even as ordinary men would think only of conquest and plunder--for I know you are no ordinary men!"
-[ ] "I will not ask mere mortals to fight against the spawn of the pit itself, but no mere mortals stand with me today!"
-[ ] "You are Legionnaires... and you shall know no fear!"
-[ ] "...all is in readiness. I solemnly pledge, the people of Tyrosh shall know freedom from this madness ere the night is over. I am honored to have you all with me. No King could ask for finer men to have their back in the press, and no King such as I could be more proud than to know you stand steadfast, even in the face of darkness. For we are the Light."
-[ ] "Good fortune, and thank you all."
[ ] "Legionnaires. This is your King, Viserys Targaryen, and I would like to share some words with each of you.
-[ ] "We go to battle together this day. On the horizon lies Tyrosh, estranged daughter of Valyria the Lost, and it is festering pile of stones wrought off the backs of men's despair and the blood of innocents."
-[ ] "Though as it stands now, it is even worse than that, for those are merely human follies, the mistakes of a bloody age left uncorrected until now. But there are darker machinations afoot. Among the misery wrought by the greed and contempt to fellow man, the seeds of corruption are bearing fruit. Feasting on the foulness and debauchery, a cancerous tumor has grown within this city."
-[ ] "Each of you has come to know the face of these vile creatures. The face of the true enemy, not of just our nation, but to all of mankind. I have shown you their guise and gaiety, how they revel in their atrocities and what glee they show as they visit their dark artifice upon the world of man. For while fellow men may be compelled to lay down their arms and in turn grant quarter, these creatures will show no mercy to you and neither can they ever be granted such."
-[ ] "The enemy you face today is not simply slaver, slave-soldier or common sellsword alone. Were they just that, this battle would be easily won. For you are the might that I cast farther afield, sight unseen, a force of arms that shall shake the world unto a new age entire. With blood and sweat you earned skill that equals, nay, surpasses all of them and garbed in spell-wrought steel, their blows will be no worse than rain to you."
-[ ] "But today you also face a graver threat. Fiends. The ilk of Abaddon, the plague-ridden and hateful. Our full might shall be leveraged to end this threat to all of our fellows, for to ensure peace and stability in the times to come, they must be stopped."
-[ ] "Before today the men, women and children of Tyrosh knew only pain and loss, preyed upon by such as these, mere food and fuel for their mad crusade against the works of men, nay, civilization entire. Who else but us can oppose them? Who would beggar themselves to save the world but those of noble heart and dutiful mind? This cancer grew not in an isolated wasteland, but in the heart of a great city and instead of purging it, it's lords ignored it in favor of their petty power plays. Or worse. They allied with the monsters in their midst to further their vain desires. Remember this when you walk these streets tonight. Remember that we come not as conquerors, but as liberators. We will be the light that banishes the darkness. We will succeed where others failed, for our cause is just and righteous. For our conviction is strong and our minds free of doubt."
-[ ] "I will not ask if you yet stand with me even knowing the tasks that lay ahead of you--I know you do!"
-[ ] "I will not ask if you will lay down your life to save this city, even as ordinary men would think only of conquest and plunder--for I know you are no ordinary men!"
-[ ] "I will not ask mere mortals to fight against the spawn of the pit itself, but no mere mortals stand with me today!"
-[ ] "You are Legionnaires... and you shall know no fear!"
-[ ] "...all is in readiness. I solemnly pledge, the people of Tyrosh shall know freedom from this madness ere the night is over. I am honored to have you all with me. No King could ask for finer men to have their back in the press, and no King such as I could be more proud than to know you stand steadfast, even in the face of darkness. For we are the Light."
-[ ] "Good fortune, and thank you all."
dpara
slightly confused ascendant
Let's say anyone spoilering the movie deserves to be ritually sacrificed. Which at the same time makes it hard to talk about the movie xD.
mmh could Amrelath try to claim Wylla?
Goldfish
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I'm not going to make an issue of it beyond this post, since I already involve myself so heavily in character level ups, but I really, really hate that spell selection. It actually makes my skin crawl a little bit. We regularly get special classes and PrCs, and there is already precedent for Arcane casters being able to learn healing spells. Bards do it all the time. Why not try to make a custom PrC that accomplishes that? If it's even remotely reasonable, DP will probably approve it.
And why Scult Spell as a feat? It couldn't be more useless to her than if she had Weapon Focus(Great Sword).
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If he tries that Garin would immediately try to murder him, and Viserys would stand by his friend.
Let's just agree that Amrelath might be a dragon, but he's not a moron.
There, there, it's not a big deal. Sarah is inconsequential beyond being a teacher for the magelings.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
Again, with dany's level up and additional spells, it would be nice to free up a fourth level slot for heart of earth, which was added to her spell list.
Dude, Dany always has a Heart of Earth spell prepared. I'm not sure why you are assuming she doesn't. It's part of her regular, daily casting of the spell.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
Only as in it's postponed to that day, or only as in it's shown only on 3rd of May, and taken down again on the 4th?
He could try but she is a fully kitted vampire wizard she has a very good will save and perhaps other defenses as well.
Goldfish
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@DragonParadox I didn't think the actual invasion was supposed to be launched today? The next few days are supposed to be under full anti-Divination protocols while we finish preparations. Or is that all just taking place in the background since we voted for it at the beginning of the turn?
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@Crake: great speech!
I love the fact that you outright say "known to fear". All that it needs is Vyserys using the word Companions unironically to cement it.
Honestly though, feel free to make an issue of it. I like this kind of thing, and more opinions are always fun.
What's so bad about her spell selection? She has Sleep and Deep Slumber because by word of DP she has those spells (she used them in-update), and so I gave her Glitterdust and sent her into an AoE caster vibe with Sculpt Spell.
I do agree that things could be better (she lacks blasting, Wings of Cover would be nice...) but getting healing + Deep Slumber on a sorcerer isn't easy. I then added in a few defensive spells to get to AC 22 if needed, and then found that she was out of spells.
The best solution would be the Draconic Aura feat (healing in one feat, would free up a feat slot, 2 spells and 4 skill points) but we don't have access to it. Without that getting healing on a Sorcerer is possible but restricts them to a single, non-metamagic-stacking trick, and AoE seemed the one for her. Now she'd decent support in a large battle and a decent healer.
I could drop both Still Spell and Sculpt Spell and replace them with Expanded Arcana though. Any suggestions for that?
I presumed that we weren't allowing "expanded arcana to get Cleric spells", but am I wrong? That would neatly solve all our problems.
I love the fact that you outright say "known to fear". All that it needs is Vyserys using the word Companions unironically to cement it.
Making a custom PrC for a mostly irrelevant NPC seems excessive. If she was actually important, I would of course be fighting tooth and nail for some sort of PrC for her.
Honestly though, feel free to make an issue of it. I like this kind of thing, and more opinions are always fun.
What's so bad about her spell selection? She has Sleep and Deep Slumber because by word of DP she has those spells (she used them in-update), and so I gave her Glitterdust and sent her into an AoE caster vibe with Sculpt Spell.
I do agree that things could be better (she lacks blasting, Wings of Cover would be nice...) but getting healing + Deep Slumber on a sorcerer isn't easy. I then added in a few defensive spells to get to AC 22 if needed, and then found that she was out of spells.
The best solution would be the Draconic Aura feat (healing in one feat, would free up a feat slot, 2 spells and 4 skill points) but we don't have access to it. Without that getting healing on a Sorcerer is possible but restricts them to a single, non-metamagic-stacking trick, and AoE seemed the one for her. Now she'd decent support in a large battle and a decent healer.
I could drop both Still Spell and Sculpt Spell and replace them with Expanded Arcana though. Any suggestions for that?
I presumed that we weren't allowing "expanded arcana to get Cleric spells", but am I wrong? That would neatly solve all our problems.
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This I'd object to. She's nowhere near important enough to justify having Wings of Cover. DP justified Viserys getting it through divine intervention, and we can maybe teach it to Relath since he's also a dragon. Giving it to a PC--one who's not even dragonblooded--who's going to spend most of her time teaching leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Goldfish
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Or a custom feat that would allow her to learn healing magic? Not one that grants the spells, but simply the ability to learn it using your normal spell selection.
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- France
You are a saint.
That's called Arcane Disciple
Well no, Arcane Disciple limits you to one use of each a day. But it's close.
Unless we're allowing the reading that Extra Spell allows you to learn a healing spell.
@DragonParadox, the srd says "These new spells can be common spells chosen from the sorcerer/wizard spell list, or they can be unusual spells that the sorcerer has gained some understanding of by study. The sorcerer can't use this method of spell acquisition to learn spells at a faster rate, however." about spells learned when the Sorcerer levels up. Can we just give her Expanded Arcana for a few low-level healing spells, to represent time spent learning in the Scholarum with our Archivists?
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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- Russia
Postponed.
Looking at the plan here it seem that by today all the preparations have been done all the pieces moving as they should according to plans previously drafted and implemented by Ser Richard.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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- Russia
...It is saying something, that our invasion is a surprise even for us.
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- Germany
Is the Hunter's Moon in position?
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- United States
Should be. Moonsong wouldn't miss this for the world.
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- Germany
[] Explain the plan to Rhaella (under divination-security), but unfortunatly it's too late to be involved with the planning since it's done and too early for her to be directly involved in the invasion
[] Talk to Wylla about disguising Amrelath. Aside from that you she's welcome to stay in SD or join your invasion as she wants it, we'd certainly have a placefor a mage of her skill
[] Bring Rina in on the invasion plan and, if she has no objections, ask her to stay with Asha and Theon until their group goes in
[] Speech Crake
[] Caster-loadouts Goldfish
In that case we'd have to teleport her and her favorite crewmembers over to do their part while the rest has to bring the ship home.
Asha and Theon are luckily already here.
[] Talk to Wylla about disguising Amrelath. Aside from that you she's welcome to stay in SD or join your invasion as she wants it, we'd certainly have a placefor a mage of her skill
[] Bring Rina in on the invasion plan and, if she has no objections, ask her to stay with Asha and Theon until their group goes in
[] Speech Crake
[] Caster-loadouts Goldfish
Problem is that she didn't know about it due to Azel's sealed orders plan, so their vengance-trip to the Stormhag might have left her too far away from Tyrosh for the timing to work.
In that case we'd have to teleport her and her favorite crewmembers over to do their part while the rest has to bring the ship home.
Asha and Theon are luckily already here.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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- Russia
@everyone
This part of the plan I don't quite understand.
Or actually acting as a general in divination-proof room, up to neck in maps and plans of the city?
Because if the latter is true, at least for legioners, we totally should buff him somehow before going.
Knowledge: War will certainly help here a lot.
This part of the plan I don't quite understand.
He'll be just relaying our pre-made orders to everyone?
Or actually acting as a general in divination-proof room, up to neck in maps and plans of the city?
Because if the latter is true, at least for legioners, we totally should buff him somehow before going.
Knowledge: War will certainly help here a lot.
Somehow yes, though she must have set records for the journey. However the ship looks somewhat the worst for wear because of it.
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It's mainly so Ser Gerold can quickly get word to everyone important if an opportunistic enemy notices everyone is gone and tries to attack Sorcerer's Deep.