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Not a fan at all.
We got this by killing its last owner, we should keep it and use it.
I'm completly against sacrificing stuff with sentimental value.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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We got this by killing its last owner, we should keep it and use it.
I'm completly against sacrificing stuff with sentimental value.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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- Russia
Personally, I'm all for it.Thank you for the reminder.
Gotta ask, how would people feel about scaraficing this sting to the OG, not for a tree, or something else, but to just get them to process this item and then give us something cool?
Even if it's a bit lesser, it would probably be more useful imo
Of course, only after we take research actions to learn it's nature.
If it's possible to re-align it in any way?
This thing becomes super-uber-useful.
If not, well...
Shaitan will appreciate it a lot, especially along with Mirror Portal.
If after researching it we find that it won't actually work in Molten Skies to it's full power...
Well, sacrifice it is.
OGs will gleefully remake it for us, I think.
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- Germany
I was thinking more about learning how to channel energy in that fashion from the heart and then building something that directly draws raw energy from the PoF. Basically tapping a plane for free energy.
Diomedea
A piece of the continent
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We do have uses for creating a wintery area. The Giant's are pretty reliant on their mammoths, and pretty much want to be left alone, and it's still unclear if they're like the free-folk (could live anywhere, but forced North of the Wall) or like the Selkie (need low temperatures). If it's the latter, the winter heart lets us set them up on an island, albeit with some more support (I don't think any island is a large enough range to support all of the giants).
In regards to the soldiers, taking into account the infrastructure costs, and the whole feeding them,etc. They're likely not getting much better pay than a farmhand. They get to take home more of their pay due to the room, board, and clothing we provide, but we have to pay for the "free" stuff too. It's only free to the soldiers.
In regards to the soldiers, taking into account the infrastructure costs, and the whole feeding them,etc. They're likely not getting much better pay than a farmhand. They get to take home more of their pay due to the room, board, and clothing we provide, but we have to pay for the "free" stuff too. It's only free to the soldiers.
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Question. Since our tower is in a demiplane, how would fimbulwinter affect it?
If we just store the heart in our tower, SD should be unaffected.
*assuming the doors are closed.
If we just store the heart in our tower, SD should be unaffected.
*assuming the doors are closed.
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We already have the ritual to find hidden traps in artifacts, we have Rina running around freely, we defeated the dragon in combat and we would chain It and drain It to the point the power would no longer belong to the others.
Lately It feels like we are too afraid to do anything, time to remove the hubris tag methinks.
#salt.
Lately It feels like we are too afraid to do anything, time to remove the hubris tag methinks.
#salt.
dpara
slightly confused ascendant
The Old Red would be dead and not still out there working on revenge. No scaremongering from me here^^.
But this is kinda an often upcropping discussion every now and then, we have about the role of the rules of D&D;
A) the (spell) rules are a simplification of more complex underlying physics or
B) the D&D physics are as defined by the rules, with no unwritten sideeffects.
With A) you have the advantage of no Pun-Pun-ery while with B) you avoid a lot of arguments/unpleasant surprises for your players.
I usually argue and vote for interpretations closer to A), e.g. "that a god can scry/act through the pieces of it's body" and, to be on topic, that overusing the heart will "weaken the borders of reality/the Wall/give the Others a way in".
It'd probably be worth using the Heart to depetrify the ancient Weirwood?
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Algalon
Herald of the Titans
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I'd rather prefer the heart as an energy sources over the PoF. The Ilithids used that very same trick to power the fortress, and look how we exploited that ... I'd rather not be on the receiving end of that
Why not check in with Bloodraven again? He was going to look into the Old God's Hivemind for knowledge about runes that could be used to shut out divine interference for objects that a strong symbolic bond. If it works with the Avatar of Tiamat, then it'll likely work with the heart of winter as well.
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This, i would like to consult with BR before burying the heart, too afraid of the others to ever look at it again.I'd rather prefer the heart as an energy sources over the PoF. The Ilithids used that very same trick to power the fortress, and look how we exploited that ... I'd rather not be on the receiving end of that
Why not check in with Bloodraven again? He was going to look into the Old God's Hivemind for knowledge about runes that could be used to shut out divine interference for objects that a strong symbolic bond. If it works with the Avatar of Tiamat, then it'll likely work with the heart of winter as well.
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We ripped the chains off Rina via Bloodwish that was super risky - bad spellcraft rolls could have lead to damage, I presume, and apparently the Others had a window to act in some manner between us casing that spell and making the scaraficing (a few minutes, I think it was).
I really just want to give it to the OG and let them transform it to something we can trust that is more useful than making areas cold at the cost of possibly empowering an Other beacon
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It's such a beautiful artifact, though.
I will fight getting rid of it every step of the way, but if I lose in the end it should be sold instead of sacrificed.
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- Germany
I've got to agree with das_slash, people have been afraid of using loot for a long time by now, this gets really annoying.
We still have those tablets of the Ascendant Dragon lying around for example and haven't even tried to open the cultist's spellbook.
And we just sacrificed most of our Tiamat-related loot for Rina's return.
We still have those tablets of the Ascendant Dragon lying around for example and haven't even tried to open the cultist's spellbook.
And we just sacrificed most of our Tiamat-related loot for Rina's return.
Not really, Snowfire's plan only really got traction after DP confirmed that if it failed Rina would likely still be hit by the Heal spell and get dusted.
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To be fair, that's more a result of not having time to research them than anything else. I'd love to poke at those tablets. They're probably connected to the Fourteen.
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- Mexico
The Bloodwish itself was risky, as was having an open portal to the Other's power.
This is an artifact, powerful on its own, artifacts can be subverted as we saw with the crown.
If anything, using it to empower the tower would make it safer than just having it use its power randomly, if people are not afraid of carrying it into battle, why be afraid of it being safely contained in a ritual? a leaded box might as well be a wet paper bag compared to that, yet we are not evacuating the tower.
We either use it, or we do not, if we are not going to use it just sacrifice the thing and be done with it, but if we plan to use dont just shoot down plans because you dont trust the heart.
We need another extraplanar space to keep it in once it's active.
I do like the idea of entombing the illithid capital in a block of ice 30 miles across. Using the fimbulwinter on the City of Brass sounds like a good way to get the Efreeti to make a genocidal response with their full resources and maybe an alliance with Tiamat.
I do like the idea of entombing the illithid capital in a block of ice 30 miles across. Using the fimbulwinter on the City of Brass sounds like a good way to get the Efreeti to make a genocidal response with their full resources and maybe an alliance with Tiamat.
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I've always hated the ideas of dropping WMDs on the Place of Contemplation. What a sad and horrible waste of perfectly good sacrifices.
EDIT: And not just the Deep Ones, but all their items are also sacrifice fodder.
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Good thing we are just contracted mercenaries then, nothing personal, nope nope.
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- Mexico
You know, i'm going to push for us to do something really cool with the damn heart, im just tired of the selective fearmongering, its the most powerful artifact we got and by The Snake we are going to use it to its full potential.
If we can use the heart at all, then we can do this, we could use a mindblank on the room, we can carve the binding out of weirwood, we can research it to hell and back, we can talk to bloodraven and even take it to that shaitan chick so she can check it out.
If the others can still hide a backdoor through that, we already lost this war anyway.
Seriously, leaving it to rot while we dream about some theorical fire equivalent we likely will never get? what do we even have loot for then? lets just dream about the better versions hidden somewhere else, that are in no way connected to any kind of security issue or enemy god.
If we can use the heart at all, then we can do this, we could use a mindblank on the room, we can carve the binding out of weirwood, we can research it to hell and back, we can talk to bloodraven and even take it to that shaitan chick so she can check it out.
If the others can still hide a backdoor through that, we already lost this war anyway.
Seriously, leaving it to rot while we dream about some theorical fire equivalent we likely will never get? what do we even have loot for then? lets just dream about the better versions hidden somewhere else, that are in no way connected to any kind of security issue or enemy god.
Reading the spell, it's weather control rather than imposed temperature so it wouldn't be a mass freeze underwater anyway.
If a mercenary company dropped a Fimbulwinter on Sorcerers Deep we'd wipe them out, pausing only to torture them for the name of their employer. And we're not even Fire and Evil subtypes.
Part MCMLV: Beneath Crimson Wings
Beneath Crimson Wings
Nineteenth Day of the Second Month 293 AC
Allowing a seed of winter to take root in the South might prove to be a beacon to the powers that called it forth, you reason, and yet the magic that slumbers in the fallen wyrm's heart is too great to simply cast aside. Thus you order it sealed along with the most perilous relics in the tower, much to Rina's relief, making it clear her own thoughts ran along the same path. On the one hand you are satisfied to see such proof of her pledge of loyalty as telling you the heart's true power, but failing to speak reminds you that she has a long way yet to go. It was not on loyalty alone that you came so far, but friendship and the wise counsel it gives.
You consider a flight to clear your head when an unexpected realization comes upon you, like the hollow feeling of missing a step going down stairs, the lesser forms of dragon-kind are closed to you now, the words that once allowed you to borrow them hollow and powerless. To fly now you must do so in your own skin or not at all.
"What?" Dany asks, reading your face with the ease of long practice. When you explain your realization she gives you a sympathetic look and questions if wishcraft will serve in place of the lost spell.
Thinking on it for a moment then shake your head. "Other human forms I can take, not other dragons."
"Ah... you were so cute," she replies, half in jest, half true melancholy.
The memory of those long ago enthusiastic hugs draws a smile from your lips. "Being larger does have its advantages even if I shan't be winning any races. It takes a lot less work to stay in the air..."
"And you could make half the keeps in the Seven Kingdoms surrender at the sight of you." Though said with a smile the words are no doubt true. The realization that you could probably win a war for Westeros on the morrow if you wished, though not the war you might prefer to fight, is not nearly as abrupt as the one that came before, but it more than makes up for the loss you had felt a moment past.
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The training camp is alive with the sound of heavy boots and steel ringing on steel as hundreds of men, all shining in the bright afternoon sun, march and fight in formation like a single enormous segmented wyrm, bearing the colors of your house. Black is their armor, bringing to mind the spell-steel of old and red and new blood their shields.
Oh, there are still errors to be seen from the air high above as they face off against either each others of their coompany or the fiery-winged archons, and there doubtless will be more of them in true battle, but here under your wings lies an army like no other upon this world.
Each man bears arms and armor worthy of a skilled knight, but these are no knights, each with their own crest upon their shields, who might turn from the fight or even fall upon each other. These are your legions, and with them you will forge not just the war you mean to fight in the Seven Kingdoms but the peace that will follow.
You land in a shower of dust, claws gouging deep into the dry sandy soil of the field, chosen precisely because Vee succinctly proclaimed it is 'shit land for growing anything besides weeds.'
"Your Grace, the general is..." a junior officer marked by his bright crimson cloak gasps just as you take on your own shape again, unlike Dany who is content to coil on your shoulders.
"At ease, lieutenant, I am here to talk to our allies. How have the men been doing in mock battle against them?" you add as the man falls in respectfully besides you.
"Well... we are getting better at it, I can say that much. Damn happy they will be fighting besides us if we are to fight against demons and such," he replies.
"What have you heard?" your sister asks, a little sharply.
You wonder what the man would think if you told him you have no idea where the legions will be deploying as part of a complex plan to thwart foresight.
"Just rumors," the officer hastens to explain. "We all know about Mantarys and the angels weren't shy about where they came from. If one Free City could be crawling with demons why not another? Snake and Tree know the bloody magisters are stupid and wicked enough to let 'em in given half a chance."
"And the legionaries are not concerned over the possibility?" you ask. Truth be told you would have expected a rather different reaction to such tales making the rounds, perhaps a call to lift spirits and offer explanations.
"No, Your Grace, we are just happy to be able to do our part rather than leaving everything up to you and the Companions." The way he said the last word it almost sounded like a proper title.
The man falls silent as you approach the giant perfectly-proportioned form of the shield-bearer who served as Yrael's representative for this expedition, the same spirit who fought beside you against the Listener at the last.
What do you wish to trade?
[] Write in proposal
OOC: Not really an action heavy-part, but a bit more from the legions on the eave of conquest.
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
So much good stuff packed into this chapter. Great storytelling, DP.
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- Brazil
Was just about to coment the same. Great atmosphere.
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- United States
This is nothing short of great, the pantheon of gods we've collected is becoming far more commonplace and accepted if they're used for swears. Merling King to join soon after!