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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Hmmm, what do y'all think of using the Golden Company crossbowmen to reform the Raven's Teeth. Since we wield Dark Sister and have already made an enemy of them it would be deliciously symmetrical to play out history once more.
 
Azel said:
At the very least, this settles the debate what to do with Faegon once and for all.

He is Tiamats champion.
He is pet food.
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Yeah, I was very glad about that.

No more indecision, no more dragging our feet with "but maybe he's not actually aligned wit Tiamat."

He's her champion. He dies when we march.

EDIT: That or we keep him in smoky confinement forever and ever. Neatly sidesteps Dany drama that comes from killing him, so she literally can't complain about anything.
 
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For reference, we're in and about the red circle, while Nefer and Mussovy are all the way to the east, past the Bone Mountains and the Great Sand Sea. It seems quite the distance, but when you take "Teleport" and "Teleport, Greater" into consideration, it's just a hop, skip and a jump away. It's likely how the Golden Company got there.
 
Paradosi said:


For reference, we're in and about the red circle, while Nefer and Mussovy are all the way to the east, past the Bone Mountains and the Great Sand Sea. It seems quite the distance, but when you take "Teleport" and "Teleport, Greater" into consideration, it's just a hop, skip and a jump away. It's likely how the Golden Company got there.
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No, the Golden Company used boats, or hoofed it on land. Assuming they have one mage able to Teleport, the Smith, and that he was level 12, at most he would have been able to carry 4 passengers per spell. Each trip would have taken multiple Teleports to get there and multiple to get back. The great bulk of the Golden Company, several thousand sellswords, is all the way over there. Being extremely generous, and assuming he had Versatile Spellcaster and a ridiculously high Intelligence attribute, the Smith might have been able to make three round trips each day. That's twelve sellswords per day, not including any mounts (which as Large-sized creatures occupy two Teleport passenger slots) or gear.
 
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Paradosi said:


For reference, we're in and about the red circle, while Nefer and Mussovy are all the way to the east, past the Bone Mountains and the Great Sand Sea. It seems quite the distance, but when you take "Teleport" and "Teleport, Greater" into consideration, it's just a hop, skip and a jump away. It's likely how the Golden Company got there.
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That amount of teleports/greater teleports is insane considering you're talking about thousands of men and their horses, elephants, and camp followers. There's no way teleports were used for this.

We are literally the only one on the plane capable of mass transport short of using Gate via our Shadow Tower, and we finally got our Shadow Tower fully functional. There's no way in hell the Blackfyres have the same capabilities as us.
 
Goldfish said:
No, the Golden Company used boats, or hoofed it on land. Assuming they have one mage able to Teleport, the Smith, and that he was level 12, at most he would have been able to carry 4 passengers per spell. Each trip would have taken multiple Teleports to get there and multiple to get back. The great bulk of the Golden Company, several thousand sellswords, is all the way over there. Being extremely generous, and assuming he had Versatile Spellcaster and a ridiculously high Intelligence attribute, the Smith might have been able to make three round trips each day. That's twelve sellswords per day, not including any mounts (which as Large-sized creatures occupy two Teleport passenger slots) or gear.
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Elephants are Huge by the way.
Don't see any way they could have done this by magic unless they found some permanent Telport-Circle.
 
Artemis1992 said:
Elephants are Huge by the way.
Don't see any way they could have done this by magic unless they found some permanent Telport-Circle.
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Same. I just don't see how this would have been accomplished with magic. They had to have travelled the old-fashioned way. They're the Golden Company, it's not like they're inexperienced with long-distance trekking.
 
Yeah, that's why the tower is so valuable to us and why we are willing to treat with a dracolich who was born a red dragon to regain the ability to teleport it. It is just that useful.

I'm not entirely certain hunting the GC is worth our time. I'm personally tempted to leave them be as long as they're east of the bone mountians. It's not a good idea, it's better to hunt Tiamat's worshipers, but it's just so amusingly far away. It's literally the edge of the world from a Westerosi perspective. Did they think they needed that much space between us and them?
 
I suppose boats it is then, seeing as Nefer is a port city. I imagine they don't get all that much trade though, what with the Thousand Islands being what they are, and it's all the worse here(the Elder Brain is not all that far off).

Either way, I kinda want to visit Nefer.

Shrouded by fog, Nefer is surrounded by tall chalk cliffs. When seen from the harbor, it appears to be no more than a small town. Nine-tenths of Nefer is said to be beneath underground, however, giving the city its nickname of the Secret City.[2]
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Dorfs! :V
 
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Diomedon said:
Yeah, that's why the tower is so valuable to us and why we are willing to treat with a dracolich who was born a red dragon to regain the ability to teleport it. It is just that useful.

I'm not entirely certain hunting the GC is worth our time. I'm personally tempted to leave them be as long as they're east of the bone mountians. It's not a good idea, it's better to hunt Tiamat's worshipers, but it's just so amusingly far away. It's literally the edge of the world from a Westerosi perspective. Did they think they needed that much space between us and them?
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There are two reasons to go after them. Well, two reasonable reasons and several of my reasons.

Reasonable Reasons:
1. The longer they're left alone, the more power and influence Tiamat is allowed to amass, thus making it harder and harder to deal with her in the future. We need to sunder her influence and murder her subjects with all due haste. Her cult is like a cancer, and it will spread if we don't do anything.
2. We're not going to have Amrelath stay a dracolich forever, and once we bring him back to life we make a living weapon considerably weaker. I'd much rather smash the Golden Company and fight their nine drakes with a dracolich on our side rather than a simple Young Adult Red Dragon.

My Reasons:
1. I want Blackfyre out of the Golden Company's hands.
2. I want the Blackfyre captured and locked away in Smoky Confinemeny.
3. So many drake corpses to loot!
4. Golden Company loot in general.
5. This Sorcerer King in Nefer sounds like a genuine problem... I'm tempted to murder them now before they get too powerful.
 
Duesal said:
There are two reasons to go after them. Well, two reasonable reasons and several of my reasons.

Reasonable Reasons:
1. The longer they're left alone, the more power and influence Tiamat is allowed to amass, thus making it harder and harder to deal with her in the future. We need to sunder her influence and murder her subjects with all due haste. Her cult is like a cancer, and it will spread if we don't do anything.
2. We're not going to have Amrelath stay a dracolich forever, and once we bring him back to life we make a living weapon considerably weaker. I'd much rather smash the Golden Company and fight their nine drakes with a dracolich on our side rather than a simple Young Adult Red Dragon.

My Reasons:
1. I want Blackfyre out of the Golden Company's hands.
2. I want the Blackfyre captured and locked away in Smoky Confinemeny.
3. So many drake corpses to loot!
4. Golden Company loot in general.
5. This Sorcerer King in Nefer sounds like a genuine problem... I'm tempted to murder them now before they get too powerful.
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You worry too much about the Drakes. Very few of them are at all impressive, and none of those are likely Tiamat minions.
 
By the way, where was it said that fAegon is Tiamat's champion? I'd have thought that Illyrio and Varys especially would keep him safe and out of madness like that. Better yet, where the fuck's Jon Connington? He'd never agree to surrender who he believes to be Rhaegar's son to Tiamat.

If it's true, did they gank him, "Dominate Person" him, what?
 
I think it's a serious miscalculation to assume that f!Aegon is a simple child at this point. Yes, he's young, but now we have confirmation that he's in Tiamat's thrall. Tiamat would not idly wait for this kid to grow up. She probably would have forced him to undergo the same ritual Dany did to sacrifice her childhood for power or something similar.
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You worry too much about the Drakes. Very few of them are at all impressive, and none of those are likely Tiamat minions.
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Are you kidding me?! Tiamat denies us even this loot?! :mad: They better be big and impressive when we get there or I'm going to be pissed.

Either way, I want to openly fight with the dracolich at least once. That's a big reason I want to do the Golden Company thing relatively quickly and bring Amrelath along.
 
OBTAINED!

Gentlemen... BEHOLD! :o
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  • [X] Viserys said it best: You can't claim these as the spoils of conquest, for these are no living men to tithe from. Nor can they be called salvage from an empty shell of a city when the restless dead are so easily startled and incensed by such disturbances. This is theft, just from that of a different perspective.
    -[X] Acquire Tongues to speak with: "What would you have me do? Leave them here to be reacquired, by hook or crook, perhaps by my enemies, or that of mankind who I have surely, for now, driven from Sallosh-That-Was? Perhaps you will fight tooth and nail to prevent that, but still men serving as pawns of She of Many Colors and None will come again. This is a rising age of magic, and the ruins of Sarnor provide adequate target for temptation in the hearts of men besides that."
    -[X] "Let us not take them as mere spoils, one of a hundred victories left unsung; It is said that a remnant of the Tall Men yet endures despite the depredations of the Dothraki Horse Lords. Indeed--I have come upon some of these wandering forlorn exiles in their time of need, protecting them from similar ilk. They seemed hopeful for what great deeds could be committed in these times despite the horrors of the past. Would you wish to haunt these sad ruins for another age, when it is one of such possible renewal? Or might you be laid to rest... perhaps for your people's living legacy to once again inhabit these hallowed walls once more?"
    -[X] "Even if you would deny fervent hope, the living do not. Sarnor's sundered lands should not languish forever a tomb of the wakeful dead."
    [X] What need have you of treasures? Move on or stay, no gold or jewels will help you in neither.
    [X] Because this world, and all of its treasures, horrors, and trials belong to the living.
    -[X] You and your people died a long time ago.
    -[X] The indiscriminate rage, and boundless hunger of the unquiet dead is quite well known. The damage one wraith can do in a populated city should send shivers down any mortal spine.
    -[X] Truthfully I was not certain the dead dwelling here would be sane or present enough to care.
    -[X] If they were I was planning on sending them on to the next life. With words, blessings, or flames.
    -[X] The forces of darkness will not let you lie when they could bend you, or take advantage of what your presence creates.
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Getting Amrelath to perhaps like slaughtering living cannot backfire, right? !
 
DragonParadox said:
Cleric and babau magic items added (other than the knife Lya did not want to mess with that just yet). Will do the wizard's items later. Consensus on the vote?
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The Glamered armor is quite good, despite its origins. The Babau's sword and armor are perfect fodder for the Day of Change ritual.
 
Goldfish said:
The Glamered armor is quite good, despite its origins. The Babau's sword and armor are perfect fodder for the Day of Change ritual.
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Agreed. The demon artifacts are worthless to us as I expected. Not cursed, but still nothing we'd want to use. I disagree on Day of Change, though. I'd much rather sell it in the Opaline Vault.

But yeah, the Glamered armor is very nice. Who should we hand that off to?
MTB said:
Getting Amrelath to perhaps like slaughtering living cannot backfire, right? !
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@DragonParadox Could the Glamered armor please be considered Segmented? It would increase the maximum Dexterity bonus by +1 and make it perfect for Garin.

Reinforced would be nice, too. :)
 
Duesal said:
Agreed. The demon artifacts are worthless to us as I expected. Not cursed, but still nothing we'd want to use. I disagree on Day of Change, though. I'd much rather sell it in the Opaline Vault.

But yeah, the Glamered armor is very nice. Who should we hand that off to?

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Fighting the Golden Company.
 
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