@DragonParadox, if they're really going to leave the ark behind in the interest of saving time, can we stash it back in Sorcerer's Deep without it being considered our reward since they were going to toss it out anyway? It's freaking silver and gold, and enchanted at that.

I doubt the ark will be left behind, and I really doubt they would let us have it.

I'm expecting that now that it no longer has a passenger, it'll be able to shrink down to pocket-size or something similar.
 
You haven't read the spell description I linked to solve that problem ...

The equivalent to elective self-inflicted magical brain surgery might be a bit too far. He could end up actually loving Tywin, and thus no longer desire to condemn him to an eternity of torment. :o
 
Even Viserys wouldn't be able to keep a straight face when he made that claim. I imagine he might have a minor stroke even making the attempt.
You are right, that would only be a possibility if DP changed his mind and allowed us to learn Glibness.
You haven't read the spell description I linked to solve that problem ...
There must be a limit to what even magic can do, and I think this is it.
 
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  • [X] Chained tounges on all party memebrs from Dany or Malarys if they have the turns available (or maybe offer it to the Djinn so she can speak to everyone)
    -[X] Let Waymar speak
    [x] Let Waymar answer
    [X] Plan Talking Shop
    -[X] Get Waymar a Tongues spell to talk to her.
    -[X] Viserys goes to the Shaitan commander: "I take it your task was to bring her to a curse breaker in the Opaline Vault? Are your oaths of silence now discharged? If so, I would like to know what happened here."
    [X] Duesal
 
I think you meant Tywin Lannister, Viserys don't have strong feelings for Robert, he's irritating I will give you that, but I don't think Viserys wish him to the Abyss.
This is completely untrue. It really should have been obvious through the general story, but to save time here's a quote from PMs with DP while beta'ing:
I know. I was wondering which one Viserys was actually mad at, though. The elder brother for being a pompous ass who completely dismissed the threat of the Deep Ones, or the middle brother who played along because it was his "duty" to do so.
Stannis. His sentiments towards Robert transcend pissed of.
Viserys most certainly does not harbor feelings of mercy for Robert.
 
There must be a limit to what even magic can do, and I think this is it.
Hm, create life and planes of existence (okay, demiplanes) isn't it. Changing alignment also not. Calling back the dead isn't either (either the relife or the undead version). Distilling experience from pleasure or pain also not.
No, not seeing anything magic cannot do.
 
Hm, create life and planes of existence (okay, demiplanes) isn't it. Changing alignment also not. Calling back the dead isn't either (either the relife or the undead version). Distilling experience from pleasure or pain also not.
No, not seeing anything magic cannot do.

The only way magic could reduce the general douchebaggery inherent to most of the Planetosi population is if we used it to summon a meteor to cause an global extinction event, so I don't think that counts?
 
This is completely untrue. It really should have been obvious through the general story, but to save time here's a quote from PMs with DP while beta'ing:

Viserys most certainly does not harbor feelings of mercy for Robert.
That was Viserys at his most pissed, because Robert dismissed the threat of the Deep ones, in day to day Viserys merely heavily dislike Robert and would like to see him dead, Robert isn't important to Viserys he's just an obstacle, if Robert decided to go join the Nights Watch, Viserys would have no wish to inflict further torments on him, Viserys dislike Robert, but that's the extent of things.

Robert is an obstacle to the throne so he needs to die, and he's an annoyance so Viserys will enjoy seeing him die, but it's not imperative to him that he die, and Viserys could be perfectly happy, if Robert just abdicated the throne and went to do other things, because in the end Robert isn't an important enemy to Viserys, he's merely one of many, an irritation sure, but Viserys feelings of hate towards him, isn't much stronger than his hatred towards the Vrock.
 
I think someone said it already, but just to make it clear, if Robert decided to abdicate and become a mercenary, I'd gladly let him commission a magic hammer and throw in a free Planeshift so he can do it one a plane of his choosing.

He's not really a hateable guy, just a really bad king.
 
That was Viserys at his most pissed, because Robert dismissed the threat of the Deep ones, in day to day Viserys merely heavily dislike Robert and would like to see him dead, Robert isn't important to Viserys he's just an obstacle, if Robert decided to go join the Nights Watch, Viserys would have no wish to inflict further torments on him, Viserys dislike Robert, but that's the extent of things.

Robert is an obstacle to the throne so he needs to die, and he's an annoyance so Viserys will enjoy seeing him die, but it's not imperative to him that he die, and Viserys could be perfectly happy, if Robert just abdicated the throne and went to do other things, because in the end Robert isn't an important enemy to Viserys, he's merely one of many, an irritation sure, but Viserys feelings of hate towards him, isn't much stronger than his hatred towards the Vrock.
First of all, that anger wasn't solely because Robert dismissed the threat of the Deep Ones, it was because of who Robert is. It would have been one thing to kill Rhaegar, but Robert deposed the Targaryens entirely, smiled on seeing the corpses of Elia and her children, and then sent Stannis to Dragonstone to capture the last survivors (and Rhaella died in childbirth before they could flee together, leaving Viserys alone with Dany and Ser Darry). Oh, and had them exiled from Braavos.

When DP says: "His sentiments towards Robert transcend pissed of." that's because those feelings are deep and very personal. That's the kind of thing Viserys would need willsaves just to resist the urge to fireball Robert the moment he sees the man.
I think someone said it already, but just to make it clear, if Robert decided to abdicate and become a mercenary, I'd gladly let him commission a magic hammer and throw in a free Planeshift so he can do it one a plane of his choosing.

He's not really a hateable guy, just a really bad king.
Continuing the response to acknowledge this as well, you would be perfectly happy to just see Robert abdicate, but Viserys certainly doesn't feel the same. Just like it was an immovable IC dream for him to bring back Rhaella, Viserys' burning hatred for Robert is here to stay. I'll change my mind if you can provide IC text to support your claim.
 
Ehhh, Tywin and Robert kinda fight for the top spot on Viserys's list of ire. Tywin's position as #1 is mostly solidified by his active and relatively effective actions on his own, as well as most of taking credit for Robert's actions by paying for them, along with most of the atrocities being ordered by Tywin, and merely tacitly approved of by Robert.

Viserys would probably accept it if both Robert and Tywin went to the wall. He wouldn't like it, nor prefer it, but he'd accept it. With gritted teeth.
 
Ehhh, Tywin and Robert kinda fight for the top spot on Viserys's list of ire. Tywin's position as #1 is mostly solidified by his active and relatively effective actions on his own, as well as most of taking credit for Robert's actions by paying for them, along with most of the atrocities being ordered by Tywin, and merely tacitly approved of by Robert.

Viserys would probably accept it if both Robert and Tywin went to the wall. He wouldn't like it, nor prefer it, but he'd accept it. With gritted teeth.
If that ever came up I'd fully expect Viserys to do everything in his power just to see those two die, both for his own fury at the two and for the threat they represent while alive. Tywin especially. I would never trust that man not to act against us even after taking the black.
 
Given how it tends to go with these things, sending Tywin and/or Robert to the Wall will probably be followed by either or both succumbing or swearing to the Night King in the name of vengeance. Then you get to see problematic NPCs become outright rivals because now they have powers instead of / in addition to status and wealth.
 
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If that ever came up I'd fully expect Viserys to do everything in his power just to see those two die, both for his own fury at the two and for the threat they represent while alive. Tywin especially. I would never trust that man not to act against us even after taking the black.

He'd try his best to prevent them from doing it, but assuming a fait accompli (they're already on the wall, having taken oaths), Viserys wouldn't violate the sanctity of the watch.

Of course, he might offer much less generous peace terms to the Lannisters afterwards.
 
hi just caught up but what happening to the hydra in the swamps and could some tell me what magical animals we have
Here's everything we've got:

Magical Animals:

1 Gorgon that Vee named "Irony" :facepalm:
Potential offspring of said gorgon with whatever cows we could find
Gained herd of 50 "fine" Tyroshi cows
Cows have a gestation of nine months

4 Lightning Lizards
4 Fright Fiends
OOC: Just to be clear you have 4 lightning lizards, 4 fright fiends, and 1 future animal companion for Theon. Dreaming will be next update.

And then there's that one hydra that's guarding the Verdant Vistas outpost in the Braavosi swamp, but we haven't really done anything with it yet.

Oh, and Theon has his own dinosaur. :p

He'd try his best to prevent them from doing it, but assuming a fait accompli (they're already on the wall, having taken oaths), Viserys wouldn't violate the sanctity of the watch.

Of course, he might offer much less generous peace terms to the Lannisters afterwards.
Oh, definitely. If they're already on the Wall then Viserys wouldn't interfere, he'd just be completely livid about it all.
 
He'd try his best to prevent them from doing it, but assuming a fait accompli (they're already on the wall, having taken oaths), Viserys wouldn't violate the sanctity of the watch.
Sure, at least in Tywin's case.
Sending an assassin after him, or even doing it ourselves if we can manage discretion would be easy and certainly not hurt our poor conscience.

Robert would be more difficult because he's likely a mid- to high-level FIghter and he won't go down easily and without a trace.
And because we have less reason in his case, since Robert is not the intriguing type who would be dangerous from the Wall.
 
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If that ever came up I'd fully expect Viserys to do everything in his power just to see those two die, both for his own fury at the two and for the threat they represent while alive. Tywin especially. I would never trust that man not to act against us even after taking the black.

Tywin's worth more us as soon-to-be-dead-via-Martell than he is alive, or dead.

If Robert ends up having class levels and got buff as opposed to a fancy suit of armour we can take from his corpse, then stick him at the wall. Otherwise, kill him. He has one use, and that's as a warm body against the forces of oblivion.
 
Here's everything we've got:

Magical Animals:

1 Gorgon that Vee named "Irony" :facepalm:
Potential offspring of said gorgon with whatever cows we could find



4 Lightning Lizards
4 Fright Fiends


And then there's that one hydra that's guarding the Verdant Vistas outpost in the Braavosi swamp, but we haven't really done anything with it yet.

Oh, and Theon has his own dinosaur. :p


Oh, definitely. If they're already on the Wall then Viserys wouldn't interfere, he'd just be completely livid about it all.

The naming was Glyra
 
hi just caught up but what happening to the hydra in the swamps and could some tell me what magical animals we have

The Hydra is currently playing guard monster for our harvesting operation in the swamps outside of Braavos. There has been some in-thread discussion about using it to produce some baby Hydras.

@Duesal also forgot to mention that Varys, Viserys' Dragonblooded snake familiar has recently laid some eggs, which will soon be maturing into a whole new generation of potential familiars for mages coming out of our Academy.
 
The Hydra is currently playing guard monster for our harvesting operation in the swamps outside of Braavos. There has been some in-thread discussion about using it to produce some baby Hydras.

@Duesal also forgot to mention that Varys, Viserys' Dragonblooded snake familiar has recently laid some eggs, which will soon be maturing into a whole new generation of potential familiars for mages coming out of our Academy.
Aren't those eggs supposed to hatch this month?
 
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