We could use Birdbrain to test the Elysium Fruit. Like Azema, he is a Demon, so we could get a lot of useful data out of him. See how he reacts to consuming the fruit or how he reacts to injections of concentrated essence. Taking samples is a bit tricky, since we don't have Regeneration available yet, but we could starfish him in between tests to regrow lost tissue.

There is nothing like a living specimen to experiment on. :)

Pretty sure he is going to explode.

It'll be fun to watch if nothing else.
 
I'm unable to comprehend how a mass producible liquid that makes Demons spontaneously detonate could be considered a failure. :???:

It probably requires some conceptual trigger, like willful ingestion.

Force feeding transforms it into a younger, somehow cuter looking version of a Vrock. But just as mean, because children are inherently evil.

My prediction! :p
 
Wouldn't that dilude the base material? Except you do the regenerating in an environment filled with chaos and evil - are corporations invented yet?
Look at the front page. Viserys has recently invented them.

Though they are Lawful Evil by default. The only Chaotic Evil in there are the carrion demons called Ma'n'ag'ers that get attracted to such successful ventures. They usually introduce inefficiency and decay in the business to cover their tracks while stealing everything not nailed down.
 
@Azel

After giving the axe, can we grin at Theon, "Hasn't been made yet, but what would you like to see (long, short, other styles) in a Dragonbone Bow?"

Stop jealousy and such.
 
@Azel

After giving the axe, can we grin at Theon, "Hasn't been made yet, but what would you like to see (long, short, other styles) in a Dragonbone Bow?"

Stop jealousy and such.
He already has a magical weapon, so I'm not sure if we want to invest that much money. Though it couldn't hurt.

[X] Speak with Asha and Theon
-[X] About mindflayers, that you suspect the Drowned God is a front for whatever leads them, the Thousand Isles and the parallels between it and the Iron Isles.
-[X] Bring out the stuffed Ulitharid if Asha is disbelieving.
-[X] That you wish to break the claim of the Drowned God on the Iron Isles and that you wish to see the Ironborn rise above the reputation of traitors and worthless brigands they have in Westeros. The same sorcery that has wrought the recent changes on the Stepstones can be used there.
-[X] You do not wish to break their culture, but to see it rise to greater heights.
-[X] Give Asha the axe you've had customized for her as a sign of your support for her ascension to the throne of Pyke.
-[X] Offer Theon a bow made from Dragonbone, though you are operating on a rather tight schedule for at least the next two months, so it might be a bit until you can enchant it for him.
 
I look forward to the day our truce with the Deep Ones is over and then we can take our baby PCs and go hunting. It's honestly making me grin just thinking about it. Valaena on her dragon, Theon with his dinosaur, Asha with several ships under her command, etc, all of them covered head to toe with magic items. Those Mindflayers will be wonderful targets.
 
I look forward to the day our truce with the Deep Ones is over and then we can take our baby PCs and go hunting. It's honestly making me grin just thinking about it. Valaena on her dragon, Theon with his dinosaur, Asha with several ships under her command, etc, all of them covered head to toe with magic items. Those Mindflayers will be wonderful targets.

Unfortunately, Valyrian Dragons are not terribly useful underwater, nor are Fleshrakers. :(
 
He already has a magical weapon, so I'm not sure if we want to invest that much money. Though it couldn't hurt.

[X] Speak with Asha and Theon
-[X] About mindflayers, that you suspect the Drowned God is a front for whatever leads them, the Thousand Isles and the parallels between it and the Iron Isles.
-[X] Bring out the stuffed Ulitharid if Asha is disbelieving.
-[X] That you wish to break the claim of the Drowned God on the Iron Isles and that you wish to see the Ironborn rise above the reputation of traitors and worthless brigands they have in Westeros. The same sorcery that has wrought the recent changes on the Stepstones can be used there.
-[X] You do not wish to break their culture, but to see it rise to greater heights.
-[X] Give Asha the axe you've had customized for her as a sign of your support for her ascension to the throne of Pyke.
-[X] Offer Theon a bow made from Dragonbone, though you are operating on a rather tight schedule for at least the next two months, so it might be a bit until you can enchant it for him.

Wasn't thinking about offering to enchant it tbh, just let him know that he's getting a nice thing too so he doesn't go all jealous on his sister - wis is his dump stat and all.

And later on we can ask him about teaching his spells to Lelia over time while in port.

...he does realise he has access to the (mystic) ranger spell list, I hope.

[X] Azel
 
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Wasn't thinking about offering to enchant it tbh, just let him know that he's getting a nice thing too so he doesn't go all jealous on his sister - wis is his dump stat and all.

And later on we can ask him about teaching his spells to Lelia over time while in port.

...he does realise he has access to the (mystic) ranger spell list, I hope.
I was planning on giving it to him for the sole reason that he's a PC and he's sworn to us. We might as well give our elites the best equipment we can manage. He and Asha are in line to get Healing Belts and Amulets of PfE very, very soon. (Ring of Healing Vigor in Theon's case so as not to supplant the Belt of Strength).
 
Look at the front page. Viserys has recently invented them.

Though they are Lawful Evil by default. The only Chaotic Evil in there are the carrion demons called Ma'n'ag'ers that get attracted to such successful ventures. They usually introduce inefficiency and decay in the business to cover their tracks while stealing everything not nailed down.

As a manager all I can say is most businesses need more actual managers (and less owners fumbling around and having secretaries do most of it).

Also can we check how Asha is doing on her savings for a ship?
 
... I can't remember, does she know that she gets the ship when she acquires enough wealth, or does she expect to have to trade in her loot for it?
 
... I can't remember, does she know that she gets the ship when she acquires enough wealth, or does she expect to have to trade in her loot for it?
The deal was that she just buys the ship with gold. I think she's pretty close. She should have enough for a small boat, but I'm pretty sure she wants to save up for a top-of-the-line warship. Asha's got standards.
 
The only real problem that I have, @Azel, with your plan is that you have Viserys coming around and saying, "I do not wish to break Ironborn culture", and yet he is putting an end to as many forms of slavery as can be found reasonable (which essentially means all forms within his own lands, and the trafficking of them that passes through them). That puts an end to thralldom.

He also hates banditry, and tolerates piracy mostly because it has an added benefit of stifling the slave trade. The raiding of only slavers barely pays for the upkeep of his fleet as it stands. His real profits come from trading. And he knows this.

So he wants to put an end to piracy, thus taking away their Iron Price. He wants to put an end to slavery, putting an end to thralldom in the cradle (for however long Balon managed to revive the practice, and to whatever limited extent before Lord Harlaw took over regency).

He wants to increase the fertility and industries of the Iron Islands, making them profitable, and in all likelihood focus their sailing efforts on protecting trade and hunting other pirates, and yes, maybe even similar marine actions. While loot is inevitable, in order to enact this policy change, it will take more centralized authority than every ship captain being able to sail at their own leisure and decide what operations they'd wish to be part of. Optionally, you could become a patron of Asha's newly expanded Iron Fleet and give her more negotiating leverage against the individual captains by encouraging her to own all of her own House's ships outright, rather than pay upkeep for her captains out of the loot they gain. Because loot will be more irregular, while steady salary will not.

What we want to do to them is basically strangling their culture and the replacing it with a changeling. Superficially similar, but different enough as to not be two and the same.

It just seems kind of disingenuous to try for diplomacy and to convince her we're the right horse to support, when just about the only thing of worth she, as an Ironborn, perceives her people have left is their culture.
 
Well, if she is close, we are the ones with the ships. She would bring more in as a Captain, so she could get a starter ship, and we could get her a quote for her dream ship with the Braavosi ship builders.
 
As a manager all I can say is most businesses need more actual managers (and less owners fumbling around and having secretaries do most of it).

Also can we check how Asha is doing on her savings for a ship?
As member of the management in a sizeable company, I can say that businesses need less managers who talk about things and more actually competent workers who do things.
 
I agree with @Crake there, @Azel. I don't want to promise to preserve the Ironborn culture of all things. I want to save the people, I want to keep the warrior heritage strong and proud (and funneled right into our navy). But I don't want her to be able to construe this as, "The Ironborn will be able to reave as we please."

If there was ever a time to speak out against the Drowned God and the Old Ways, this is it.
 
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