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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Snowfire
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I'm not avoiding it here. I'm setting up the next section of our conversation to be about it. But I'd rather not just fold it into the larger discussion of Westeros and our actions within the 7Ks.
Hrm. Fair point. Modified it so we don't actually say what we've agreed to, only that our offer was accepted.
Anyway, I'm heading out for several hours now, but I'll be monitoring from my phone and I should be able to break what I'm working on to churn out a 'Matters of Love and Lya' vote after the next update. It just might be a little longer in coming.
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Pretty easily, it would basically be the same as Waymer's sword Purity. Just instead of a fiendbane sword it would be an undead Bane sword.... Actually @Duesal we can add detect-undead-combined-everflame enchantment to Jon Snow's sword and make it a Lotr reference.
Although you have to realize that it would always be glowing because of Lyanna, so that renders the whole warning effect worthless.
Diomedea
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They've hired the second sons, and their military isn't as skewed towards slave soldiers as Volantis's. Most of their fleet is intact, though with some losses due to the loss of Westhaven and our raiding.
We'll likely get a more detailed report as we get closer.
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I still say the first chance we get Lyanna gets ressurected, let Ned deal with that teenage mother.
Wait, so undeadbane says it only hurts undead more, nothing on detection which seems to be its own spell.
Undeadbane would make a great addition to a Night's Watch hearttree too. Perhaps something similar to the Panacaea deal, or alternatively if the black brother does slay undead with the enchsntment they have to bring parts back as sacrifice?
iggyfan
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So large numbers of sellswords fighting as light-to-medium cavalry and bad infantry with the possible exception of Unsullied and other typical Free City stuff.
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I also want Lyanna resurrected as soon as we can manage. Having her hovering over Jon Snow's shoulder at all times is not something I want to deal with.
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Yet.
Funny thing, this is also very complicated.
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And with her resurrected that won't happen because?
Diomedea
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Pretty much. They do have some unsullied, but they're not owned by the city, more they're owned by the city's magisters. Depending on our level of surprise, they might be spread out, or perhaps the magisters will have convinced each other to pool them into one force.
Unless they have a very good leader in there somewhere, they should have serious coordination problems between their fleet, their city watch, the unsullied, and the second sons.
If we have use of the Shadow Tower, or sneak party members inside the city beforehand, or both, I think we can cause enough chaos and confusion to prevent a unified defensive command from forming at all.
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She'll still be a pain in the ass on all levels, but hopefully less than she is as a ghost (a hint of rationality from her would be a boon as far as I'm concerned), and it would be physically impossible for her to hover over her son's shoulder at all time like she's doing now.
Goldfish
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If you're going to make an Undead Bane weapon, you might as well use a mace, hammer, or some other bludgeoning instrument so that you have the option later on to add the Disruption ability to it when the time comes for an upgrade.
iggyfan
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Don't forget the other half dozen or more lesser sellsword companies they almost certainly have in their employ.
Edit: one last worry, in the books it's implied that the Golden Company was a big player in Tyroshi politics, at least until the War of Nine Penny Kings, so they might be involved.
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... you hope. She's a vengeful mother.
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I admit it's a distant and unlikely hope, but I'm allowed to hope.
So many of our problems could be solved if that woman just stayed dead.
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I really want Jon to continue his class, with mother.
We may not like her, but if she possesses the corpse of a giant and uses it with the skill of a high level Fighter to kill Others that might change.
We may not like her, but if she possesses the corpse of a giant and uses it with the skill of a high level Fighter to kill Others that might change.
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Where is a ice dragon when you need coneptual-level death???I admit it's a distant and unlikely hope, but I'm allowed to hope.
So many of our problems could be solved if that woman just stayed dead.
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The potential problem some of us are seeing is the "to kill Others" condition ...
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Getting us to like her is going to be a tall order.
1. She blames us and Dany for all of Rhaegar and Aerys' sins. (Rhaella would just love this girl, wouldn't she?)
2. Per DP's word she has absolved herself of any guilt whatsoever despite willingly eloping with Rhaegar.
3. She actively wants us to stay away from our nephew (mainly because we look like Rhaegar).
Numbers one and two are reasons for us not to like her. Three is a reason for us to actively get rid of her at the very least via resurrection so that she isn't perpetually keeping us away from Jon Snow. I don't mind if he gets another necromancer class or whatever, but keeping his current class isn't worth having to deal with ghostly Lyanna forever.
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Heck, shouldnt Jon be eligible for alot of nice feats and classes requiring somebody to be touched by death. So a undead / nega / ice bloodline sorcerer would be just as neat.
If nothing else he should be able to go for a custom dragonblooded PrC where the King Winter blood makes for a very frost tinted dragon dreams.
What's up with Starks and their Winter King title anyway. Feels like it should be kindof taboo to refer or are they king because survive winters maybe...
If nothing else he should be able to go for a custom dragonblooded PrC where the King Winter blood makes for a very frost tinted dragon dreams.
What's up with Starks and their Winter King title anyway. Feels like it should be kindof taboo to refer or are they king because survive winters maybe...
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Diomedea
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They're not completely panicking over us yet. They're quite concerned, enough to hire a sellsword company to help defend Tyrosh itself (though they have them encamped outside the city, I think), but they don't know invasion in imminent. That's more to discourage us from popping in to try and sack and loot the city. They're likely trying to get Myr and Lys to help them smash our fleet...and Myr and Lys probably figure Tyrosh's fleet can take our fleet, or at worse, seriously bloody it, which will let them swoop in to hit our weakened fleet and claim victory, and have weakened Tyrosh.
Regardless of the diplomacy, the main counter-attack, if it's coming, will be by ship. If we smash up that fleet, we pretty much have to hit Tyrosh asap before they completely panic and start doing things like join apocalypse cults en masse, beg another power to intervene (like Volantis) or make deals with devils, etc.
I'm hoping they're cautious enough, due to our defeat of the royal fleet, that they wont want to move until Lys and Myr agree to not sit on their butts and watch, and that Lys and Myr are not worried enough about us to stop playing their normal game of squabbling politics and so try to use these negotiations to gain leverage and advantage.
Also, given that they want to end our power in the Stepstones, but don't really care about "small" time piracy, I think Salladhor Saan not knowing we're about to hit Tyrosh is best (he knows we plan on it as some point, but it being a few more months away in our planning when we talk to him should work). With our brazier, we can send him towards the sea of Myrth (to raid), and then contact him en route to meet up with our half of the fleet, ideally leaving him little time or opportunity to betray us.
As for the Golden Company, they lost most of their influence in Tyroshi politics when they backed the Tyrant of Tyrosh and he fell. That should have burned most of their public political capital. They didn't seem to have many chips or favors to call on when they moved to invade Westeros, so I think they're still rebuilding their influence after Maegor managed to use most of it up in forming and supporting the Band of the Nine.
Heck, shouldnt Jon be eligible for alot of nice feats and classes requiring somebody to be touched by death. So a undead / nega / ice bloodline sorcerer would be just as neat.
If nothing else he should be able to go for a custom dragonblooded PrC where the King Winter blood makes for a very frost tinted dragon dreams.
What's up with Starks and their Winter King title anyway. Feels like it should be kindof taboo to refer or are they king because survive winters maybe...
I always interpreted it as how they gained influence early on. Winterfell had large grain stores, and they let the Northern Mountain Clans take shelter there during winter. Thus, during Winter, the Starks were King. Which condenses to "Kings of Winter." The Northern Mountain Clans started using them as neutral arbiters for disputes during summer, making them Kings in truth, and they used this alliance to defeat other nearby Petty-Kings and solidify their control over the North over the generations.
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