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To be fair, we might get some support there by striking a deal with the Sealord. Our last interaction with him read a lot like "Screw this. I'm joining the winning team." and so we might be able to get something there.
@Azel, there is hope! If we could get the mind flayers to quit with the pride and disdain for lesser races (say, by killing most of them in a way that proves our superiority) they too could be the useful, clever types of LE people!
Getting a master or two to teach our local workers for a while is pretty much what I was thinking about. With Dorne not having a fleet, we control the southern half of the Narrow Sea once we have the Three Daughters, which means that it becomes strategically beneficial for Braavos to increase our trade capacity and force projection ability in this fashion. We would basically keep their southern markets open and protected for them.We might be able to purchase help and expertise in constructing our shipyard, but don't think the sealord will send any Master shipwrights for more than a short duration. We might be able to do the opposite, pay to send decent and smart ship's carpenters to Braavos to learn the trade, but the Braavosi wont want to give away all their trade secrets, so it'll take time to get back quasi-Master shipwrights.
Tyrosh is already going to be a city in decline, as long as we keep SD as the capital. The population drift is going to be appreciable already (over the next ten years or so), so we might as well go out of our way to steal some shipwrights, or better yet, enslaved shipwright "helpers" who probably know a lot more about the trade than you'd expect.
It seems way too easy, frankly. I think it's a step in the right direction, but I want to throw Lya at the problem before actually doing anything.
It seems way too easy, frankly. I think it's a step in the right direction, but I want to throw Lya at the problem before actually doing anything.
It makes a frightening amount of sense, and cements my desire to never let high lords anywhere near royal children. Parents and inner circle only.
@Goldfish, we are not paying for that. The pech have it as an SLA, Lya can just learn it from them. Just like she can eventually learn Mindblank from Ser Richard.Now we just need to buy Lya a Stone to Flesh spell scroll to learn floor 330 IM.
Luckily Lya can make the perfect nanny. Who can also shoot lightning bolts at everyone who looks at the wee ones funny.It makes a frightening amount of sense, and cements my desire to never let high lords anywhere near royal children. Parents and inner circle only.
It makes a frightening amount of sense, and cements my desire to never let high lords anywhere near royal children. Parents and inner circle only.
@Goldfish, we are not paying for that. The pech have it as an SLA, Lya can just learn it from them. Just like she can eventually learn Mindblank from Ser Richard.
Getting a master or two to teach our local workers for a while is pretty much what I was thinking about. With Dorne not having a fleet, we control the southern half of the Narrow Sea once we have the Three Daughters, which means that it becomes strategically beneficial for Braavos to increase our trade capacity and force projection ability in this fashion. We would basically keep their southern markets open and protected for them.
The concern of us leveraging said power against Braavos is pretty moot, since we will have taken three Free Cities by then and the Sealord is not an idiot. Braavos and Lorath wouldn't be able to stand up against the guy who needed only a backwater pirate hole to conquer three regional powers, not when said guy now has three regional powers worth of military might in addition to what he already had. Deeper trade ties make a much better way to ensure peace there and that takes ships.
Now we're definitely swinging by Dragonstone on our way back home.
We can compensate with magical items and a few spells. Besides, I don't care about being the best. It doesn't matter if you can make the best ships in the world with great effort and care, when the opposition can drown you in hundreds that are merely good.Makes sense. The shipwrights guild might not see it that way, though. They'd want to maintain their position as the best shipwrights in the world, and increasing the gap between them and their competitors is only good for them (as institutional knowledge is lost in the chaos of our conquest) from their perspective, right? I'd expect Journeymen shipwrights out of it, with the Braavosi quite happy to let them flounder and make mistakes that a master would avoid (setting our shipbuilder's reputation early as less reliable).
+10 Profession (Shipwright) item for 1000 IM would probably more than offset the difference between journeyman and master levels. Can probably do even with cheaper ones.Makes sense. The shipwrights guild might not see it that way, though. They'd want to maintain their position as the best shipwrights in the world, and increasing the gap between them and their competitors is only good for them (as institutional knowledge is lost in the chaos of our conquest) from their perspective, right? I'd expect sub-par Journeymen shipwrights out of it, with the Braavosi quite happy to let them flounder and make mistakes that a master would avoid (setting our shipbuilder's reputation early as less reliable).
I would sacrifice a lot of stuff to change "HD+6" to "HD+8".Or we should hatch them all, then use 13 as sacrifices to further empower Viserys' dragonocity.
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And it's fucking delicious.Yes, but that was because sugarcane is much more easily processed to produce pure crystalline sugar
This math seems seriously off. IIRC, a basic wooden humanoid was like 40 IM.So, I was actually wrong on the cost of cheap Constructs to man the Wall. I overestimated the expense.
A basic Small-sized combat Construct, which is roughly equivalent to a level 1 Warrior in potential lethality, would cost us 8 IM to produce, while a Medium-sized one closer to a level 2 or 3 Warrior, would cost 16 IM to produce.
In two days, each of Lya's Wrights could produce 50 Small or 25 Medium combat Constructs for 400 IM. With both Wrights working on it, that's 100 Small and 50 Medium for just 800 IM. 150 deadly Constructs that have no need for sleep or supplies.
We could easily station such a contingent at every single castle along the wall, with a small number of humans to command the Constructs.
EDIT: For such a low cost, we should be producing these Constructs anyway, assigning them to our ships as supplementary guards and using them to add weight of numbers to our Legions.
Same. People whined a lot, but ultimately, "learn how to sacrifice living things" >>>> "learn how to sacrifice artifacts".I'm feel entirely vindicated for pushing for the blood ritual back then. Day of Change is all but useless with how few things are eligible for it.
Or we can just use the slave breeders in town.So, three Heart Trees in Lys is what we need...
Yeah, we need to go hunting for demons in the Abyss and come back with plenty sacrifices.
No way.
I'm itching to do something fancy with it too, but I just don't see us doing it at any point within the next 3 years. Both in-game and real-life years.
We should definitely stop by Dragonstone on the way back and thoroughly loot the place of anything that catches our interest, dragon eggs included.
That would kick-start the war for Westeros. No ifs, not buts. Invading part of the Seven Kingdoms is funny that way.I'm curious, but why don't we just take Dragonstone back? It'd require a navy to take from us, and that hasn't worked all too well for them the last time they tried it.