It seems that D&D Tools doesn't list any of the Assassin spells from the DMG as available to them for some reason.

Looking now...so why Modify Memory instead of Glibness or Freedom of Movement?
It's something completely unique, and a precision tool instead of a sledgehammer like memory moss. And quite good for his role as assassin.

Freedom of Movement isn't really needed when he has Flicker, and Viserys can already into social.
 
It's something completely unique, and a precision tool instead of a sledgehammer like memory moss. And quite good for his role as assassin.

Freedom of Movement isn't really needed when he has Flicker, and Viserys can already into social.

We have very different priorities for some of the party. :confused:

Anyway, on a different subject, we need to get Recitation back into the Persistomancy rotation; it's good enough that I would be willing to give up Mass Conviction or Righteous Wrath of the Faithful, though the latter would make it more important for Viserys to cast Haste before combat.

Also, I think we should work Chasing Perfection into the rotation, regardless of what we have to remove to make room. +4 Enhancement bonus to all attributes would be amazing for every party member.
 
We have very different priorities for some of the party. :confused:

Anyway, on a different subject, we need to get Recitation back into the Persistomancy rotation; it's good enough that I would be willing to give up Mass Conviction or Righteous Wrath of the Faithful, though the latter would make it more important for Viserys to cast Haste before combat.

Also, I think we should work Chasing Perfection into the rotation, regardless of what we have to remove to make room. +4 Enhancement bonus to all attributes would be amazing for every party member.
That would require 10 IM per casting and it's a plain Enhancement bonus, which wouldn't stack with out ability boosting items.
 
That would require 10 IM per casting and it's a plain Enhancement bonus, which wouldn't stack with out ability boosting items.

DP might let us get away with using a more expensive Focus item instead. @DragonParadox?

And a regular Enhancement bonus is fine. Most of the party only has two Enhancement bonus from items, and the majority of those are +2.

Viserys wouldn't gain any benefit from the Charisma or Constitution aspects of the spell, but his Strength, Dexterity, Intelligence, and Wisdom would all be increased by +4. That means a +2 bonus to melee attack rolls and damage, ranged attacks, AC, Initiative, Reflex and Will saving throws, and a +2 bonus on almost every skill he has, except for those linked to Charisma.

Lya would gain all of those benefits, as well as a +1 bonus to Fortitude saving throws and another 12 Hit Points, and a +2 DC increase on all of her Divine spells.

And so on. It's an across the board boost that helps everyone.
 
DP might let us get away with using a more expensive Focus item instead. @DragonParadox?

And a regular Enhancement bonus is fine. Most of the party only has two Enhancement bonus from items, and the majority of those are +2.

Viserys wouldn't gain any benefit from the Charisma or Constitution aspects of the spell, but his Strength, Dexterity, Intelligence, and Wisdom would all be increased by +4. That means a +2 bonus to melee attack rolls and damage, ranged attacks, AC, Initiative, Reflex and Will saving throws, and a +2 bonus on almost every skill he has, except for those linked to Charisma.

Lya would gain all of those benefits, as well as a +1 bonus to Fortitude saving throws and another 12 Hit Points, and a +2 DC increase on all of her Divine spells.

And so on. It's an across the board boost that helps everyone.
Fair enough, but I'm definitely not willing to pay 150 IM per month for a bonus that doesn't stack with the main attributes of the party or only partially.
 
It's a decent add-on to the rotation, with plenty of knock-on effects, however, it's a pretty big ongoing cost. If Azel's math is right, 150 IM per month might seem like an acceptable price to eat on its own... but 1800 IM over a year? That's a whole turn of trade income.

...actually, @Azel, we're at the point where our trade and raid income alone brings our liquid cash intake up to 25,000 IM per year. And that's liable to increase as we establish our stock trading system and give time for SSE to increase in profits. I expect that liquid cashflow to increase exponentially once we set up new trade routes and acquire some more ships to run them.

We legitimately could eat an ongoing cost like that and call it a pittance.

On that note, DP has called 12,000 IM the income of a single kingdom. So we're making as much on trade and raiding as two kingdoms put together.

Truly we are a savant at mercantilism.
 
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It's a decent add-on to the rotation, with plenty of knock-on effects, however, it's a pretty big ongoing cost. If Azel's math is right, 150 IM per month might seem like an acceptable price to eat on its own... but 1800 IM over a year? That's a whole turn of trade income.

...actually, @Azel, we're at the point where our trade and raid income alone brings our liquid cash intake up to 25,000 IM per year. And that's liable to increase as we establish our stock trading system and give time for SSE to increase in profits. I expect that liquid cashflow to increase exponentially once we set up new trade routes and acquire some more ships to run them.

We legitimately could eat an ongoing cost like that and call it a pittance.

On that note, DP has called 12,000 IM the income of a single kingdom. So we're making as much on trade and raiding as two kingdoms put together.

Truly we are a savant at mercantilism.
Good point, but I prefer to be frugal. Or expenses will grow considerably when we have Tyrosh and a standing army.
 
I am really exited for our mc to become a true mature adult dragon. Hey guys what happens when he becomes a mature adult red dragon? does he get a new class or something to keep leveling do you think we could get a draconic sorcerer prestige class or something that benefits our sorcerer class?
 
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I'm not disagreeing with you, @Azel. I think that it might seriously pull its weight for some of our party, but as an ongoing cost it just doesn't seem juicy enough to be worth it.
 
Recitation can go in on the odd days, replace Panacea with it, as it "only" costs 8 turnings. Should upgrade Dany's CHA booster to +3 and still maintain the ability to Chain Reach a nuke. The updated version gives +2 AC, making it very worthwhile.

But Chasing Perfection requires Chain Reach Extend Persist, aka, 13 turnings.

To most of the party, it's just some nice side benefits.

Recitation is already, essentially, Chasing Perfection. No skill boosts, but most of everything we'd want the bonus attributes for.
I am really exited for our mc to become a true mature adult dragon. Hey guys what happens when he becomes a mature adult red dragon? does he get a new class or something to keep leveling do you think we could get a draconic sorcerer prestige class or something that benefits our sorcerer class?
Any class he takes will have its HD overwritten with Dragon, so we just need something to advance casting.

We are thinking a customized Dragon Mystic, focusing on the breath weapon and metafeats instead of pure casting boosts.
 
Hey guys are there any plans going for any of the known slave countries? Can we go full daenerys on slavers bay and take over or volantis for that matter? Because those countries I for the most part have no qualms on pillaging, taking over, assimilating, then disbanding slavery.
 
The metafeats especially will add on to our bag of tricks, which is the main reason we even want a spell like Blood Wish to begin with. Pure, unadulterated versatility with manageable drawbacks.

Edit: Haha, @firefrog600, it's really fun to see people fresh-faced and not really in-step with our manifold machinations and irons in the fire.

Yes, we are well on our way to ending the practice of slavery, one Free City at a time. In fact, before we even conquer Westeros, we expect three of them to be totally fully emancipated.
 
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Recitation can go in on the odd days, replace Panacea with it, as it "only" costs 8 turnings. Should upgrade Dany's CHA booster to +3 and still maintain the ability to Chain Reach a nuke. The updated version gives +2 AC, making it very worthwhile.

But Chasing Perfection requires Chain Reach Extend Persist, aka, 13 turnings.

To most of the party, it's just some nice side benefits.

Recitation is already, essentially, Chasing Perfection. No skill boosts, but most of everything we'd want the bonus attributes for.

Any class he takes will have its HD overwritten with Dragon, so we just need something to advance casting.

We are thinking a customized Dragon Mystic, focusing on the breath weapon and metafeats instead of pure casting boosts.

I think casting the spell on demand is the better option.

I know you're attached to Cometfall, TNE, but what about replacing it or Harm with Chasing Perfection in Dany's regular loadout? It would be an extremely effective pre-combat buff to Chain and Reach.
 
So guys what are the meta plans for Tyrion? Because the Lannisters are total dicks and if I had to have one of them in any position to retain power it would be him. Because there will be those loyal to the Lannisters I want to have Tyrion on our side.

Anybody ever notice that in game of thrones Tywin was actually a little nice to Arya more so than he has ever been seen doing with any of his children? And this is after a couple conversations hes nicer to peasant girls than his own children.
 
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Part MDCXXXIII: Of Secrets Under the Hill
Of Secrets Under the Hill

Nineteenth Day of the Twelfth Month 292 AC

Sleep comes easily under the hill, but the dreams it brings are strange things: slender fingers reaching through verdant light and twisting shadow... the sense of being trapped and embraced, sustained and killed by enfolding roots though between which eyes of green and red watch... and through it all a song of branches, creaking leaves rustling, beasts howling...

You come awake suddenly in what might be the middle of the night, morning, or even midday, for time flows strangely here without sun, moon, or stars to mark them to find Dany sitting cross-legged on the mat in front of you: "They are loud, aren't they? The Singers Before?"

"What do you mean?" you ask, still bleary.

"She decided to go exploring," Ser Richard explains, volumes of disapproval in his voice.

"We aren't in an enemy stronghold, you know," Dany counters in what sounds like the tail end of an old argument. "This place is as safe from attack as the Shadow Tower... safer in some ways, since there's no dead dragon lurking about."

"What did you find?" you ask, knowing that it would be pointless to chastise Dany for something you might have done yourself.

"Bloodraven is not alone among those who lie upon a throne of roots. There are others in the far chambers, Children of the Forest, thought it is clear they have lain here for far longer. They seem as dead and do not hear one's calls no matter how loud you shout, though one opened his eyes when I conjured light nearby. I managed to speak with that one in his mind, though it was like shouting against a howling gale... He was very surprised and I think impressed."

"You decided to touch the mind of something that was directly linked with a age-old God-Mind?" You suddenly feel a surge of sympathy to Ser Richard.

"I've dealt with worse things," Dany reminds you. Seeing that you are still not appeased she adds. "I was warded as well as I could manage and if something did pull me away Bloodraven would have been able to help me out. I foresaw it."

"Alright," you sigh. Sometimes you miss the times when Dany did not have so many ways to justify rash action, nor opportunities to take it. "What did he tell you?"

"There are some among the 'voices of the Gods' who thoroughly despise Brynden Rivers for one, voices that do not sing in the True Tongue of the Children of the Forest, but speak with the tongue of men of old. Oathbreaker and kinslayer they name him, one who has lain with his own blood..." She pauses for a moment then asks, "Have you considered how many issues of our House might never have come to light if Aegon's heirs chose not to marry brother and sister?"

"I see little point to considering may-have-beens that would have made impossible my own birth," you answer honestly. "What else did you learn?"

"Something of the nature of the Children and their lives, I think he was rambling for a bit, glad to speak to one rooted firmly in time, and also a prophecy of sorts: 'The Wanderers return to Throne of Oak shrouded in Roses to bear their gifts upon a child crowned in thorns...' I think that may have something to do with the rumors we have been hearing from the Reach, of the fey moving more and more openly through the wilderness, though who this child might be I cannot say."

"Thorns as much much as roses would mean the Tyrells," you muse. "They called... and I suppose still call Olenna Tyrell the Queen of Thorns, and there should be only two children of her blood now: Lord Tyrell's daughter and his youngest son."

"Perhaps," Dany answers. "But as the Singers count time are not all men as children no matter how many years they may count?"

Ser Richard laughs. "I met the Queen of Thorns once at court," he explains. "I would pay good money to see someone call her 'child' to her face, from a safe distance of course."

What do you do next?

[] Resurrect Rhaella

[] Speak of hatching Dragons

[] Ask counsel on the matter of how to deal with your father's final, greatest folly, the wildfire in King's Landing

[] Ask more questions
-[] Write in


OOC: There is something to be said for resurrecting Rhaella before you talk about the wildfire so that you only have to go over the matter once, and so that Viserys does not have to directly tell his mother the depths Aerys stooped to.
 
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It's untyped SR:No AoE damage...

We can throw one of those down into an AMF, even.

Harm then?

So guys what are the meta plans for Tyrion? Because the Lannisters are total dicks and if I had to have one of them in any position to retain power it would be him. Because there will be those loyal to the Lannisters I want to have Tyrion on our side.

We have little to no IC knowledge of Tyrion currently, or his plight. That might change in the future, though.
 
Harm then?



We have little to no IC knowledge of Tyrion currently, or his plight. That might change in the future, though.
Well if we ever get Tyrion as some kind of prisoner I will vote for not immediately executing him okay guys. If hes insecure about his height or something there are probably spells we could learn to turn him into a taller man benefits of foul sorcery it would be. that way if we put him in some position of power people cant call him incapable because of his height.
 
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Well if we ever get Tyrion as some kind of prisoner I will vote for not immediately executing him okay guys. If hes insecure about his height or something there are probably spells we could learn to turn him into a taller man benefits of foul sorcery it would be. that way if we put him in some position of power people cant call him incapable because of his height.

Immediate execution is already off the table. We didn't execute Stannis when he was caught sailing a fleet to SD to lay waste to our nascent kingdom.

With magic back in the world and Tywin Lannister as a father, Tyrion might already have been cured of his "affliction".
 
If we are losing our Chain Reach abilities...

Anyway, we should upgrade Dany's CHA to a +3 ASAP, so we can fit Recitation on odd days. It'd, however, leave us with essentially no turnings.

What do you mean?
He means it would be emotionally hard for Viscerys to tell his mother the foul deeds his father did instead of having the tree man do it for us. Easier to let someone talk for you many would say.
Immediate execution is already off the table. We didn't execute Stannis when he was caught sailing a fleet to SD to lay waste to our nascent kingdom.

With magic back in the world and Tywin Lannister as a father, Tyrion might already have been cured of his "affliction".
hahaha we already captured Stannis the prick deserves it. also I wouldn't be surprised even if Tywin could "cure" Tyrion that he wouldn't out of spite for "killing" the mom at birth and that it just might not occur to him to even help Tyrion in anything he does.
 
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