A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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+1 level on average for all recruits from Sorcerer's Deep? Damn, I love that arena.
Just remember most of your recruits will have warrior levels.
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@DragonParadox
Can we make some Dragonglass glasses for the Inn to get the ??? of it's effects revealed, or have you not pinned down it's effects mechanically yet?
Can we make some Dragonglass glasses for the Inn to get the ??? of it's effects revealed, or have you not pinned down it's effects mechanically yet?
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Not even a few with Fighter class or other PC classes?
And what about our Scholarum mages that participate in the more showy fights against conjured beasts?
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Well, that just feels like an injustice.
Edit: To the poor people stuck as warriors, that is.
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He did say most, not all.
Not even a few with Fighter class or other PC classes?
And what about our Scholarum mages that participate in the more showy fights against conjured beasts?
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Should we give some gold so he can buy some more food, furs and maybe a bit of beer for the men? Not that this is us addressing their real issues - and we should say that we know this and that we are hoping to learn more about the various forms of hardship the men of the watch face, and we might as well take the opportunity to ask now.
It is bribery, but bribery that is appreciated. We can overpay for the maps if we want to be semi subtle.
It is bribery, but bribery that is appreciated. We can overpay for the maps if we want to be semi subtle.
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I'm thinking ~100-500 IM. Not too much, but enough to be a huge boost to current supplies.
Also, the brunt of our gifts to the Night's Watch should go to Castle Black under Aemon's supervision.
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Helping out the nights watch will go a fair way to repairing our reputation in Westeros - let's milk this for all the PR it's worth.
Helping out the nights watch will go a fair way to repairing our reputation in Westeros - let's milk this for all the PR it's worth.
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The brunt of our gift's should also be in weapons, we have the ability to quickly produce a lot of good weapons cheap, so we should make and gift them a bunch.
In the North maybe. Most of Westeros is rather isolated from the Night's Watch.
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@DragonParadox, I know we've already set the precedent for it but I'm double-checking anyway just to be safe. Before approaching Eastwatch, Viserys casted VotD and AoN for max diplomacy benefits, right? Our natural diplo score is high enough to avoid brainmelting, so no reason not to.
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It's not even bribery, regardless of the current location of Bobby B's fat ass, we are the King. Just like we told Stannis, it is our duty to protect the realm, especially in times like these. Making sure the Watch is well provisioned is a part of that duty.
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@DragonParadox
Can we make some Dragonglass glasses for the Inn to get the ??? of it's effects revealed, or have you not pinned down it's effects mechanically yet?
We should just make a whole dinner set, glasses, platters, ...cutlery. Who doesn't want molecular edged(?) table knives!
(No actually, obsidian decore fabricated to perfection would be hella neat.)
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Yeah! Maybe they won't make us wait three days to see a dude!
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Yes, this. With Yrael at least we knew for sure that he honestly had important things to do and never intended to snub us.
With Doran, it was almost certainly in part a show of power... which is pretty ironic considering that we gave him the source of all of his magic, and without that he'd still be suffering from gout.
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Eh, I get where Doran is coming from. Alliances not bound by blood are fairly...shaky in a feudalistic society. He's also responsible not just for the wellbeing of his immediate family, but also all of his subjects. Him being stand-offish and acting as he does makes perfect sense from his position.
Emotionally it also makes sense. Being Doran has been suffering. Elia has died horribly. His wife, who he married for love, has grown distant and their relationship broken due to the cultural differences between Essos and Dorne, the most welcoming of Westeros. Now we're also marrying an Essosi girl for love, and not marrying his daughter (which spares her from parallels with Elia, so he'll have strong ambivalent feelings there). That conversation could not have been pleasant in any way for Doran, and he's going to think back to it every time he talks to us.
We also go and promise him a miracle. The very hope of seeing Elia again has to be painful. Him not wanting to regularly talk to us, and being reluctant to contact us makes sense until he has something concrete to point to so he can reassure himself that we will not betray him and Dorne the way Aerys did and use them terribly, and something to make talking to us less emotionally equivalent to chewing on a mouthful of razors.
Emotionally it also makes sense. Being Doran has been suffering. Elia has died horribly. His wife, who he married for love, has grown distant and their relationship broken due to the cultural differences between Essos and Dorne, the most welcoming of Westeros. Now we're also marrying an Essosi girl for love, and not marrying his daughter (which spares her from parallels with Elia, so he'll have strong ambivalent feelings there). That conversation could not have been pleasant in any way for Doran, and he's going to think back to it every time he talks to us.
We also go and promise him a miracle. The very hope of seeing Elia again has to be painful. Him not wanting to regularly talk to us, and being reluctant to contact us makes sense until he has something concrete to point to so he can reassure himself that we will not betray him and Dorne the way Aerys did and use them terribly, and something to make talking to us less emotionally equivalent to chewing on a mouthful of razors.
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I do want to point out that him making us wait three days to meet him was before we told him we weren't going to marry Arianne.
And you're right, his position isn't irrational, but damn if it isn't frustrating for us.
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I interpreted that as him taking pains to make sure no spies were able to catch wind of the meeting. In a meeting between us and Doran, it's Doran who is taking the risk of drawing the crown's ire.
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You know, I wonder if the prevalence of Fey in large parts of Westeros (they are the strongest force we aren't activly fighting) will change that culture about alliances and given word in general a bit.
Fey hate breaking word a lot more than most nobles do, for all their talk of honor and duty.
And they gain power over you with a broken word, though we where smart enough not to test how much, so far.
So if it becomes clear that a broken word to the wrong person can get the Wild Hunt on your ass and we certainly won't intervene without a very good reason even after becoming king, maybe the idea of keeping your word, at least in letter, becomes a lot more common in Westeros.
And maybe they even stop swearing contradictory bullshit on becoming knights or lords and instead stick to the stuff they actually, realistically mean to do.
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Alright, that's fair.
But still, even with the marriage and Elia situation, it's irritating that they aren't acting like proper allies.
We gave them Velen to teach their mages (and apparently he's been very helpful in that regard). Without that they straight-up would not have any mages in their courts for the simple fact that there would have been no-one to teach them. We gave them the Brazier of Battle as their first official magic item which they probably traded away to the fire spirits Velen conjured up. We gave Oberyn ships to rebuild Dorne's navy for the first time in millennia. We gave Dorne the Lampad to train druids for them and to serve with her magic (up to level 3 druid spells). We found and captured the terrorist from Oldtown who poisoned hundreds of people on behalf of the Faith. We just equipped Oberyn and Nymeria in preparation for their journey in raiding the ruins on the Rhoyne.
We have invested a LOT in helping Dorne come out on top in this age of magic. I understand his reluctance to fully invest now that he's not getting a marriage alliance, but once Elia's returned to him we better start seeing a more helpful attitude.