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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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DragonParadox said:
"Because Doran does not wish to beggar the Kingdom by shoveling gold into a fiery pit as he puts it," he hesitates a moment. "And because my disguise has grown rather threadbare of late. Better that Master Aenar go off to the east and someone else come back in his place."
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Idiots. :facepalm: Way to not take advantage of the ability to commission magic items from us. That is a fuck ton of wasted money that you could have used to buy far more magic items from us.
 
Duesal said:
Idiots. :facepalm: Way to not take advantage of the ability to commission magic items from us. That is a fuck ton of wasted money that you could have used to buy far more magic items from us.
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More, but better?

This is unique work and propably something interesting like Purity or the Horn of the Twice Fallen rather than a +2 Flaming Weapon or whatever we would have wipped up for him.
Style matters.:p
 
I'd go for 50%-75% profit for things Leila or our smiths can make. Lya time gets 100% profit.
 
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Duesal said:
Hedging his bets would have meant commissioning some magic items from us while also seeking other sources. Doran didn't even try.
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The Plane of Fire is a decent source, especially since he managed to contact Phoenixes, which are unlikely to screw him over.
If he eventually gets more skilled mages and can actually Planeshift over, rather than having to trade via Callings I suspect they'll make profit too. And get items at decent price.
 
Artemis1992 said:
DP said some time ago that eventually Planetos would adapt to MS-prices as arcane materials grow more common, I think.

@DragonParadox how's that going?
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Prices are still high.
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TotallyNotEvil said:
Has it been enough time for the reagents for +1 stuff our magesmiths can produce to normalize in price?
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Not yet no, while they are getting more common, magical organizations are hoarding them, keeping demand high.
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bigbow said:
I feel bad for Azel, it doesen't matter how much you sugar coat it @DragonParadox , your ruling effectively means evil/negative energy arcanums are done and gone, we will never go for them. Why would we create resentful/suffering people which furthermore have some chance to fuck up our plans?

I thought we'd gotten past the whole outdated morality system, but I should have known better. The DnD system is just too inmersed in it, and trying to find/build someone that is terrible to his enemies and has no qualms with dubious experiments but at the same time isn't likely to stab friends in the back or just be a psychopath (or indeed be happy with their lot in life) is very, very difficult, despite the fact that history is filled with loving husbands, caring fathers and loyal to the hilt, dreamy subordinates who committed the most horrifying of atrocities to enemies and neutrals, nationals hero's loved to this day that wpuld rather kill themselves than hurt family or country, yet were all too eager to genocide the out group...

DnD's cardboard morality system is a pain to navigate with arcanum creation and I beg you DP to just let it go in that regard and give us more sandbox freedoms. We are creating people out of energy wholecloth, with magic, why can't we design them as we want to within reason, leaving behind systems that were made in mind for tabletop rpg sessions and not this epic saga you have been taking us through. I don't care about stats, but personalities and motivations (fluff), which is after all the most I care about in this quest.
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From my understanding, arcanums are more Outsiders than human, considering they are being made from elemental magic stuff.

Like it or not, Good and Evil are objective things in DND, just like Law and Chaos are.

This doesn't stop mortals, such as Bronn, Salhador, or (probably) Malarys from being as you describe.

But if you shove objective Evil into someone, expecting them to be in the range of a mortal evil person is quite silly. It would be like expecting an imp to selflessly love someone.

As a better example, Wylla, Garin's vampire sister, was an unrepentant murderer who didn't care about the lives of literally anyone besides Garin. And that was just from being a Undead and thus filled with negative energy.

Having both Negative Energy and Evil be part of the core of something's being will not create anything approaching to a good or content person.
 
Tomcost said:
The amazing power of Dornish Women!

We should weaponize our Lyseni brothel this way.
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The amazing power of Dornish Women and Men!

We should weaponize our Lyseni brothel this way

Fixed that for you. We need to cater all tastes if we are going to maximize our profits.;)

Edit: What happened to me I used to be neutral good now I'm chaotic neutral at best. This Thread :cry:
 
Artemis1992 said:
The Plane of Fire is a decent source, especially since he managed to contact Phoenixes, which are unlikely to screw him over.
If he eventually gets more skilled mages and can actually Planeshift over, rather than having to trade via Callings I suspect they'll make profit too. And get items at decent price.
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On the other hand survival on the Plane of Fire is much more of a problem than survival in Molten Skies.

bigbow said:
Aren't we cut off from molten sky prices? We should hoard what is left for our stuff, let Oberyn pay prime material prices.
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We actually should return there soonish.
Some time has passed, and if someone does want to challenge us again...
Well, the group is powerful enough to profit from such a challenge.
 
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Even if Molten Skies is a bust for us and we well and truly can't return without the Bey hunting us like animals and us starting a war with the City of Brass, we still have this.
DragonParadox said:
Gained Deva Feather (Attuned to the Astral Plane and the Planes of Water and Air)
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We can go to extraplanar markets in the Planes of Air and Water, and through the Astral Plane we can go literally everywhere else. We're not cut off from fairly-priced crafting goods.
 
Duesal said:
Even if Molten Skies is a bust for us and we well and truly can't return without the Bey hunting us like animals and us starting a war with the City of Brass, we still have this.
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We can propably deal with the Bey, if he devotes too many ressources to hunting us we can kill him and claim that he was wasting the Sultan's tax money on his personal vendettas.
His job is a pretty low and unwanted one among the servants of the Brazen Throne.
 
Artemis1992 said:
We can propably deal with the Bey, if he devotes too many ressources to hunting us we can kill him and claim that he was wasting the Sultan's tax money on his personal vendettas.
His job is a pretty low and unwanted one among the servants of the Brazen Throne.
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If we can do this and get away with not starting a war with the Brazen Throne, that would be the best-case scenario. We'd finally get our LE market back. :cry:
 
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