Would we be able to MC into Ninja, instead? It's better for us in terms of class features but doesn't make a ton of sense in-setting, unless maybe the Faceless Men count for it.
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Would we be able to MC into Ninja, instead? It's better for us in terms of class features but doesn't make a ton of sense in-setting, unless maybe the Faceless Men count for it.
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That is a good point... we completely fucked this up!
we either need to take a rogue dip. Or change our plan. and rogue dip kinda sucks.
or... there are certain feats that can give you certain things as class skills. We should look into something like that.
wait! we could do a bard dip and then a sorc/bard hybrid PRC?... those probably require prereqs though. lemme look into it
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Sorry, vetoed on the grounds of setting limitation.
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[X] Plan DS mk2
feat: Draconic Senses
skills: bluff, concentration, spellcraft, knowledge arcana, knowledge nature
spell: detect poison
@mrttao we also need to know at least 2 divination spells so i changed my spell selection to detect poison. is the plan to start taking rogue levels after we hit second level spells? because if not we are never going to hit our prestige class
feat: Draconic Senses
skills: bluff, concentration, spellcraft, knowledge arcana, knowledge nature
spell: detect poison
@mrttao we also need to know at least 2 divination spells so i changed my spell selection to detect poison. is the plan to start taking rogue levels after we hit second level spells? because if not we are never going to hit our prestige class
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@DragonParadox can we retrain spells. It occurs to me that light is a really crappy level 0 spell, moreover if we do take dragon senses we really won't need it
hmmm, arcane mark cantrip would be useful, it would let us summon said object to us and make it a lot easier to scry it. we can put it on the crown. We can put it on sister.
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I was just gonna say that detect poison is REALLY helpful for a would be crime lord, it can save our life!
hmmm, arcane mark cantrip would be useful, it would let us summon said object to us and make it a lot easier to scry it. we can put it on the crown. We can put it on sister.
The best part it can be invisible
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Well... you have not used it "on screen" yet so I guess we could just ret-con it.
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According to this, we can, within limits. Starting at level 4, and every even level after that, a sorcerer can choose to learn a new spell in place of one he already knows.
DragonParadox, would any of the following classes be allowed? They're probably better for us for dipping rather than rogue but may not be realistic for the setting.
Monk is unlikely to be available, but would be a good option if it is.
Scout is probably likely, and skirmish is probably better for use than a rogue's sneak attack.
Factotum would be great but is probably also not allowed.
Arcane mark doesn't let us summon anything, it's just a mark. I'd rather get Launch Bolt as a cantrip instead, giving us an offensive ability that wouldn't announce us as obviously magic like a fire spell or something would (though we could just get an actual crossbow instead).
Monk is unlikely to be available, but would be a good option if it is.
Scout is probably likely, and skirmish is probably better for use than a rogue's sneak attack.
Factotum would be great but is probably also not allowed.
Arcane mark doesn't let us summon anything, it's just a mark. I'd rather get Launch Bolt as a cantrip instead, giving us an offensive ability that wouldn't announce us as obviously magic like a fire spell or something would (though we could just get an actual crossbow instead).
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still invalid, spot is already maxed out at our cap of 2.
I was thinking bard actually. bard is basically a rogue, with some arcane magic based on cha
moreover, bards can heal with arcane magic
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Monk: I can't see it, you are not even lawful never mind anything else.
Scout: find some woods and live in them.
Factotum: setting limitation.
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Read Magic and Open/Close look useful, but I don't think we'll find any magic books and the other one only works on small things.
Bard requires Bardic Music which has to be learned from another bard.
Small spoiler: You would have to travel to Skagos (land of the human sacrificing cannibal barbarians) to find the nearest incipient Bard in the world.
We may have to modify our character progression plan. Could we take a level of the Mindbender prestige class? If we just take 1 lvl, we get telepathy and don't lose any caster levels. It's easy enough to get.
There's also Fatespinner which has some nice abilities and would fit thematically with our Unseen Seer.
There's also Fatespinner which has some nice abilities and would fit thematically with our Unseen Seer.
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Roadtrip!
[X] Plan TT
feat: Draconic Senses
skills: bluff, concentration, spellcraft, knowledge arcana x2
spell: detect poison
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QM said that any PRC whose fluff mentions an organization requires said organization to be compatible with the setting and for us to then locate them to be taught.
I do not think said organization exists in setting.
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Why do you want us to take knowledge nature? it is totally useless for non druids. are you perhaps confusing it with the survival skill?
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why are you opposed to putting 2 points in knowledge arcana? we need 15 points in knowledge arcana anyways for archmage.
Didn't we use it to demonstrate magic to sister?
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IRRC, the original plan was to take one level of Rogue at some point. The need to do so is not a surprise, we knew about that when we voted.
That being said, I'm also partial to the option of simply taking another prestige class first, and then becoming an Unseen Seer at level 14. For example, the Alchemist Savant looks somewhat interesting on first sight, and could possibly be justified fluffwise if we dare seek out the Alchemists of King's Landing. Hmm... though, would we lose the Unseen Seer sneak attack bonus if we did that?
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I'm still partial to one level of Mindbender. The synergy between Telepathy and the bluff skill is immense.
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No, you did not want light shinning under the door. You used prestidigitation only.
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Which one? the only one I have been able to find that QM allowed so far is ruathar, which requires us to find and befriend the forest children (elves)
Fluff requires us to be favored of house cannith or least dragonmark of making. based on prior trend QM will probably not allow it
@DragonParadox will you allow this PRC?
Alright, thanks for carifying, in that case
[X] Plan TT mk2
feat: Draconic Senses
skills: bluff, concentration, spellcraft, knowledge arcana x2
spell: detect poison, replace light with arcane mark
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As I said, there are Alchemists in Kings Landing. So some sort of Alchemist Prestige Class being theoretically available there doesn't seem implausible, does it?
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We should also have intimidate: 0 as a class skill thanks to our draconic heritage feat.
Yes because it is an interesting story-telling opportunity but it would require not only going to King's Landing but discovering lost lore of the Alchemists.