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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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[X] "Let the record show that the accused refuses to comply with court procedures. For the benefit of the accused, the court will assume that he has plead 'not guilty'. Proceed, Lord Vanor."
 
Even if we had, I would have voted to forbid him from requesting it.

When Tywin stands on the platform, the noose around his neck, the last words he will hear on this world will be the headsman asking "do you have any last words, Tywin Hill?"
 
Azel said:
Even if we had, I would have voted to forbid him from requesting it.

When Tywin stands on the platform, the noose around his neck, the last words he will hear on this world will be the headsman asking "do you have any last words, Tywin Hill?"
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That is not the issue Malarys would have with the notion. For much of his life he enforced the Crimson Code of Valyria, a set of laws specifically designed to keep the Dragonlords from killing each other. To make combat a part of the law would be to Malarys like making the flinging of excrement a part of one's bathing ritual.
 
DragonParadox said:
That is not the issue Malarys would have with the notion. For much of his life he enforced the Crimson Code of Valyria, a set of laws specifically designed to keep the Dragonlords from killing each other. To make combat a part of the law would be to Malarys like making the flinging of excrement a part of one's bathing ritual.
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I know. I just wanted to point out that I consider some other factors here even more important.
 
Faucar said:
From this line it seem he is not expecting a noose, no ?

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Most likely yeah, he was after all treated rather gently so far, given clothes and a chance to refresh himself and fed decently well, no Black Cells here. That you would give him the courtesy of a noble's death might be assumed. Worth keeping in mind that the criminal law of the Imperium is unlikely to have been much of a concern of his and even if it were he is not going to assume you are killing him for its sake bur rather for the simple fact that he is your chief foe in Westeros. It might even be that in his own deeply malicious way Tywin actually thinks he is giving good advice about how to deal with defeated enemies.

*brought to you by inhumanly high sense motive*
 
DragonParadox said:
Most likely yeah, he was after all treated rather gently so far, given clothes and a chance to refresh himself and fed decently well, no Black Cells here. That you would give him the courtesy of a noble's death might be assumed. Worth keeping in mind that the criminal law of the Imperium is unlikely to have been much of a concern of his and even if it were he is not going to assume you are killing him for its sake bur rather for the simple fact that he is your chief foe in Westeros. It might even be that in his own deeply malicious way Tywin actually thinks he is giving good advice about how to deal with defeated enemies.

*brought to you by inhumanly high sense motive*
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Viserys just keeps all of his vicious cruelty presentable for public consumption but deeply psychological.

See Ser Fossoway.
 
Vote closed. The next update will also be an interlude, though I won't say from whom for full effect.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Apr 23, 2021 at 12:18 PM, finished with 41 posts and 21 votes.
  • [X] "Let the record show that the accused refuses to comply with court procedures. For the benefit of the accused, the court will assume that he has plead 'not guilty'. Proceed, Lord Vanor."
    [X] "Justice is not a mirrorshow. It is not just emanations of one ruler's fancy which can shift at any moment, or a declamation wielded as a sword to fall upon any enemy you wish--or at least it should not be, and I have never made any attempt to express otherwise. I did not slay the family of the former Archon of Tyrosh when I took the city, and instead treated them with dignity and respect, nor did I sentence out of sight every Lord who ever, with or without cause, rebelled against my House."
    -[X] "If you had learned that instead of how weakness should be crushed whenever it came into view, rather than examining why those foundations faltered, perhaps you would not be standing here before me today as a vile traitor, pride akin to madness in your eyes, but instead in one of those galleries up there?"
    --[X] "You reap what you sow, Tywin."
    [X] "Let the record show that the accused refuses to comply with court procedures. For the benefit of the accused, the court will assume that he has plead 'not guilty'. Proceed, Lord Vanor."
    -[X] But if he demands a trial by combat he's facing Yss!
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Apr 23, 2021 at 12:18 PM, finished with 41 posts and 21 votes.
  • [X] "Let the record show that the accused refuses to comply with court procedures. For the benefit of the accused, the court will assume that he has plead 'not guilty'. Proceed, Lord Vanor."
    [X] "Justice is not a mirrorshow. It is not just emanations of one ruler's fancy which can shift at any moment, or a declamation wielded as a sword to fall upon any enemy you wish--or at least it should not be, and I have never made any attempt to express otherwise. I did not slay the family of the former Archon of Tyrosh when I took the city, and instead treated them with dignity and respect, nor did I sentence out of sight every Lord who ever, with or without cause, rebelled against my House."
    -[X] "If you had learned that instead of how weakness should be crushed whenever it came into view, rather than examining why those foundations faltered, perhaps you would not be standing here before me today as a vile traitor, pride akin to madness in your eyes, but instead in one of those galleries up there?"
    --[X] "You reap what you sow, Tywin."
    [X] "Let the record show that the accused refuses to comply with court procedures. For the benefit of the accused, the court will assume that he has plead 'not guilty'. Proceed, Lord Vanor."
    -[X] But if he demands a trial by combat he's facing Yss!
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Interlude MLXVIII: Eulogy for a Lost Prince
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    • Eulogy for a Lost Prince ​

    Eighteenth Day of the Fifth Month 294 AC

    "Let the record show that the accused refuses to comply with court procedures. For the benefit of the accused, the court will assume that he has plead 'not guilty'. Proceed, Lord Vanor," the words of the Imperator echoed from the mirror and some in the crowded square cheered, but most were silent. Some out of respect for the throne, some out of lingering horror from what they had heard to be the crimes of the western lord, but in the case of the youngest of the watchers, one small cloaked figure among the slightly larger ones of dawnkin gremlins in the guise of urchins, it was the silence of confusion and pondering.

    A spell of tongues was a strange thing to lay upon the very young, for normally it was meant to pass concepts from one tongue to another as best the listener could understand in the intent of the speaker's words, yet even in those cases when the one hearing them did not have the words to set to strange thoughts the spell still strove to gift understanding, soft and vague as it might be. Thus it was that Rhaenys Targaryen understood the mind of her uncle even when she knew not what 'comply' meant, or 'procedure'.

    The bad man was trying to get out of having all the bad stuff he did being told in the open. She did know what a headsman was, but she knew what a hangman was and there the grey-haired man would be going.

    The little girl could not recall the moment she and mother had gone away anymore, thanks to the dream-magic and here in the warmth and the light of the Deep, but she could remember remembering the cold sweats and the screams. She could remember all too well the way her mother looked at her, dark eyes filled with worry and dread as she tried to quiet her... the way she would cry into her pillow when she thought Rhaenys did not see her.

    It was because of Balerion that she knew who Tywin Lannister was and what he had done, well Balerion and Vee. The cat had once bragged of having stolen a choice morsel off his plate and Vee who had been speaking cat for Rhaenys had explained who that was and why the deed was done. Mother had been quite angry with Vee then and she had told the older girl to never speak of such things again until she was older, but the little princess was old enough and she remembered that too.

    I used to have a brother and the bad man took him away, like he tried to take mama and me from uncle Oberyn and uncle Doran and uncle Viserys, and my brother is never coming back because he was too little to know the way. She would sit here and she would watch. I used to have a brother and mother used to have a son and his name was Aegon and he is never coming back. Well Tywin Lannister would not be coming back either, Rhaenys thought with an edge of viciousness beyond her tender years. She would make sure of that with her own eyes. She would watch the bad man hang.

    Had any of the folk in the mirror square chanced to look down at the girl at that moment they might have seen a spark of red flame. But if they had they would likely have thought nothing of it. This was after all Sorcerer's Deep.

    OOC: As you can imagine Elia would not be amused to find out where her daughter is right now, though Dany would probably count what Glyra did a good deed.
     
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    • DragonParadox said:
    Had any of the folk in the mirror square chanced to look down at the girl at that moment they might have seen a spark of fire. But if they had they would likely have thought nothing of it. This was after all Sorcerer's Deep.
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    They aren't wrong considering we made it a blessing to give everyone living in city no matter their level the ability to have a cantrip they can use. I am curious what the most common cantrips are in general. What you think DP?

    Also, little dragon awakening her magic!
     
    Massgamer said:
    They aren't wrong considering we made it a blessing to give everyone living in city no matter their level the ability to have a cantrip they can use. I am curious what the most common cantrips are in general. What you think DP?

    Also, little dragon awakening her magic!
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    For a rough order I would say
    1. Prestidigitation
    2. Mending
    3. Detect Magic
    Then a long way down the list all the rest. Most people do not need the combat cantrips and things like light while useful are not really that needed in a city that is kept lit day and night by other magics.
     
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