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Everything was meant to be done as joint sessions, though the Curia Vocium has theoretically no quorum. I was wondering why you never had anyone outside of the Curia Principium speaking so far.
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Oh I see. I had only the Principium speak since they are as you say the only ones with a quorum so I figured they could not really function. The only reason I even asked about them here is because they would be more spectators.
BTW speaking of the lower chamber I just realized they provide the only way for nobles of lower rank than Duke to speak at a central level, rig the vote in your province to get the First Voice of X be your man and you have an envoy. That is going to be fun to write, especially when they meet with the more populist Voices from say the Braavosi lands or even the Disputed lands.
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Mind you that the voices have no primacy over each other. I just wanted them labelled uniquely.
Though ultimately, they can just bribe the Consul of either part of the Curia to give speaking time to someone. The Consul is setting the schedule after all, which can include giving non-members the floor. The only question is if the house in question won't vote to have the speaker thrown out, or censuring the Consul for abusing his privileges.
Are we going to rename the city as well, or was that just a meme?
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I did not mean to imply that the First Voice was more important, this was just a random example. I'd say the advantage of having your own Voice rather than counting on the Consul is that you would not have to keep paying the bribe and its easier to make sure the right guy gets the voice in your domain than keep getting more money for the Consul.
Theon will do it even if you do not, it's his city after all and there is nothing keeping him from changing it.
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Depends a bit on who the Consul is. If, say, Doran gets the post in the Curia Principium, then it would be pretty easy for a vassal of his in good standing to get the floor now and then.
Mind, we should probably have them vote on the Consuls after the Marshalls have been heard and military bases have been sorted out. By that point, people should have decent idea who they would back for that position.
True. Regardless I am going to have to map the nobles to the Vox districts and see who has the money and the interest to rig the elections and then see what sort of reps get through. It should be interesting if some of them try and fail as well. It's not like the lords are used to catering to smallfolk.
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I'm pretty sure we had only the gentry vote, so based on income and wealth.
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don't forget conspiracy against the crown(the second he was made aware of the citadel playing silly buggers and choose to hide it) , robbery of royal property (dragonstone) and one count of rebellion when he usurped his father and went after the Ryens and Tarbacks also another two counts of mass murder there too as well
I think anyone with property can vote, that is a lot of craftsmen and merchants.
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I'm pretty sure we had a wealth cap so that you can't vote just by owning a tiny corner store in Braavos.
Though the real pain will be getting the census data, drawing districts, getting the bureaucrats and lawmen in place to take their roles in the assemblies and so on. Optimistically, we will need half a year to get anything in place.
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As in, respectively, the Gentry might be significantly less wealthy than possessing property exceeding 500 IM, if the province in question is significantly poorer on average than other ones, and the Lawmen and Clerks select their representatives based on internal organization of the administration, whereas the Voices are all elected by aforementioned Gentry.
@DragonParadox One interlude had you bring in a rabble rouser to a session who was trying to expand elected representation to encompass all citizenry regardless of their Estate, but as that is not part of the Imperial Constitution no one took it seriously (and the Magisters are at least somewhat used to benefiting from the goods and services of the wealthy-but-not-too-wealthy) and that is a large part of the reason why there was pretty much none of that canon Meereen nonsense where you had terror killings out in the streets right off the bat even despite Dany not being afraid to use her jackbooted thugs to do her political killings (just too reluctant to ruthlessly destroy her enemies' powerbase after doing each of the noble houses a small injury).
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@DragonParadox So is Bloodraven just going to show up to a session one day then? You sounded remarkably eager about it a couple days ago... maybe you should have Pycelle and him get that little happy reunion after all.
I mean that would be fun for me, but I do not think Brynden would hand you that sort of mess to handle, a gibbering Pycelle is a terrible thing to have to deal with
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I hope that thou art proud of thyself for that awful jape, good Ser.
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Eh. Pycelle is pretty much not our problem. He's just some random dude in the visitor balconies.I mean that would be fun for me, but I do not think Brynden would hand you that sort of mess to handle, a gibbering Pycelle is a terrible thing to have to deal with
I mean... we paid him off and told him to do whatever as long as he doesn't make himself a nuisance.
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He'll be gibbering off-screen once he sees a session recording of Brynden speaking, then looks directly at the recorder stone and winking in a "blink and you'll miss it" moment.I mean that would be fun for me, but I do not think Brynden would hand you that sort of mess to handle, a gibbering Pycelle is a terrible thing to have to deal with
Per the current winning vote he will be watching in person which means he will make at least a minor scene
He was there as 'the Lord Inquisitor', but his name was yet unknown. Being an inquisitor I figured it made sense for them to be able to attend anonymously if they so choose (normally there would be verification by the consul, but obviously there isn't one yet).
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Interlude MLXVII: A Lion's Last Act
A Lion's Last Act
Eighteenth Day of the Fifth Month 294 AC
Pycelle, Grandmaester no more for all that he had kept the name in his new body, looked out from the public gallery onto the floor of the Curia to a spectacle he had never thought to see the likes of in all his days. Tywin Lannister, Lord of Casterly Rock and master of all the Westerlands, for many long years the effective master of all the Seven Kingdoms, was called to trial before the gathering of the new made Imperium.
What even was this hall, this Realm? It seemed to the old man that, though his body was now hale and whole, his mind was still twisting and turning as in in a fog. And now the trumpets rang fair and clear, and rods capped with iron were struck upon the floor in proclamation of a thing that three years ago lived only in the mind of the man upon the dark stone throne, and five years ago was not even a nightmare in the darkest dreams of Robert Baratheon. There were lords here who had escaped the Imperator's wrath, judges in their deep and somber robes, wizards who walked with the pride of their strange arts, and governors under the Dragon's hand.
One might almost expect to see there, by the envoy of the Iron Bank, one of the Faceless Men calling out to their deathly god, or in the corner there by the red-robed priest, some devil of the Red God in the guise of an angel ready to proclaim the doom of his very soul onto the accused. His mind flinched away from the fact that angels indeed walked these very halls. Pycelle had not lived a life without sin by any measure, least of all his own.
He was almost glad when the doors opened and two nameless legionnaires escorted in an old man in black unadorned. Even in the midst of his tumult, he could recognize the mummery; dress the villain in black and do not give him any grand escort to rob him of his power. Another king might have left some mark on the face or body of Lord Lannister, might have wanted to see him broken before the ones he had for so long cowed, but not the Imperator. He did not traffic in such crude shows of power before the vast hall filled with the lords of two continents, he did not need to. Lord Lannister looked pale, and he walked with a stiff gait, but he did not need to be pushed along still, and in his eyes burned a familiar defiance of pride that might almost grind down the whole world like a millstone ground grain.
"Tywin Lannister, you stand here accused of multiple counts of slavery, of three counts of murder and two counts of mass murder, multiple counts of violating the bodies of others by the use of flesh-craft, violating the minds of yet more with the binding magics by which you have enacted the above mentioned slavery and two counts of treason," called out the Princeps Excelso Iudicio, Malarys Vanor, his voice clear and without inflection that Pycelle's ears could catch. One by one, he recounted what each of the accusations were related to, from the sack of King's Landing to experiments of flesh and steel that made Pycelle very glad indeed he had been too nervous to break his fast today. Once all the list was done, he asked, with the inevitability of steel portcullis falling, "How do you plead?"
A cold hollow laugh fell from the lips of the once Lord of the Westerlands. "I will plead before no dragon, but I must say that if you mean to recount all the blood I have spilled then you missed some of it, the Raynes and Tarbecks at least, and I have heard told that my stay as Hand was not too popular with high born or low." He raised his eyes to the throne of the Imperator, and with the courage that only a man who knows himself already doomed, asked, "Come now, Your Majesty, why waste the time of all these lords and other folk here watching declaiming the deed all know must be done? Call forth the headsman and be done with it." Then with a smile Pycelle hoped to never see upon any living face, he added, "Your father, too, was too fond of elaborate trials."
Do you react?
[] No, you care nothing for his baiting and have nothing to say to him that the evidence will not better show
[] Yes, if the son of a bitch wants an answer you shall give it to him
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OOC: Given the weight of what is happening I figured this deserves a few updates. Also a reminder that most people have less strong stomachs than Companions when it comes to describing abuse of flesh-craft. A lot of people are feeling mildly nauseous after that one. Also, yes, he remembered to use the proper honorific, he is that sort of evil SoB.
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