And he's one of our most loyal men! See, murder works!
 
[X] Agree, keeping your tone light and jesting, no need to remind anyone that some of those seated in this very hall must have once called you pirate and worse
 
[X] Azel

@DragonParadox was Mace actually a serious contender for leading the monarchists in the Curia? They just lost a war with us and we haven't been shy about our contempt for him and his family.


Do we need to make him sit facing the wall in a corner of the Curia to get the point across or something?

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Wait, isn't Viserys still technically a pirate? It hasn't been that long since we raided the Efreeti, and as far as I'm aware we were (prior to the system change) planning to do so again when we started getting low on cash.
 
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[X] Azel

@DragonParadox was Mace actually a serious contender for leading the monarchists in the Curia? They just lost a war with us and we haven't been shy about our contempt for him and his family.


Do we need to make him sit facing the wall in a corner of the Curia to get the point across or something?

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Wait, isn't Viserys still technically a pirate? It hasn't been that long since we raided the Efreeti, and as far as I'm aware we were (prior to the system change) planning to do so again when we started getting low on cash.
Viserys is absolutely a pirate. The Imperium is just his pirate's nest. :)
 
was Mace actually a serious contender for leading the monarchists in the Curia? They just lost a war with us and we haven't been shy about our contempt for him and his family.

Do we need to make him sit facing the wall in a corner of the Curia to get the point across or something?

I think I finally get it. Mace Tyrell is an extremely incompetent version of Petyr Baelish. The man simply wants power, he's never going to stop wanting power, and he's going to try every last scheme he can get away with to do so. This is the family who were told that Viserys EVAPORATED a nation of fey he didn't like in one fell swoop without even having to leave his island, and they still thought, "No, no, we're still in this, we can offer up fast-travel for the fey that's intrinsically tied to our family, I'm sure he'll fall for that." The greatest trick he ever pulled was surviving past the Pacification with his title intact, because now he's able to continue his gambits as long as he avoids "high treason". He has no shame for his past actions or his latest attempts, he doesn't seem to grasp that doors will continue to close for him and his family due to his actions, and if Viserys and Lya ever get around to growing a child, he's going to be the one who shows up to the "christening" proposing a marriage between Margery and the new heir. Because maybe, just maybe, this will be the attempt that gets him back on top where he belongs.
 
[X] Azel

@DragonParadox was Mace actually a serious contender for leading the monarchists in the Curia? They just lost a war with us and we haven't been shy about our contempt for him and his family.


Do we need to make him sit facing the wall in a corner of the Curia to get the point across or something?

The thing to keep in mind about nobles, especially the kind you find in Westeros is that they have long memories. The freys are still being given shit for being upjumped several centuries after they rose from the rank of laded knight. Now let's look at the Tyrells, yes they cannot claim to be kings in unbroken line for thousands of years like the Starks can and the Lannisters er... could, but their history in the Reach goes back millennia. Theirs were the banners that drove off the Ironborn and played kingmker when the Gardners were weak. They were the ones who drove the Manterlys from the Reach and they were the ones who with the coming of the Dragons almost three centuries ago were made LP. That sort of prestige does not vanish overnight, especially since Mace is still a duke and of a rich land yet. He still has all the personal relationships he cultivated and many of the bonds of blood.
 
The thing to keep in mind about nobles, especially the kind you find in Westeros is that they have long memories. The freys are still being given shit for being upjumped several centuries after they rose from the rank of laded knight. Now let's look at the Tyrells, yes they cannot claim to be kings in unbroken line for thousands of years like the Starks can and the Lannisters er... could, but their history in the Reach goes back millennia. Theirs were the banners that drove off the Ironborn and played kingmker when the Gardners were weak. They were the ones who drove the Manterlys from the Reach and they were the ones who with the coming of the Dragons almost three centuries ago were made LP. That sort of prestige does not vanish overnight, especially since Mace is still a duke and of a rich land yet. He still has all the personal relationships he cultivated and many of the bonds of blood.
Something tells me he's going to give us a reason to strip him and his family of what they've managed to retain.
 
The thing to keep in mind about nobles, especially the kind you find in Westeros is that they have long memories. The freys are still being given shit for being upjumped several centuries after they rose from the rank of laded knight. Now let's look at the Tyrells, yes they cannot claim to be kings in unbroken line for thousands of years like the Starks can and the Lannisters er... could, but their history in the Reach goes back millennia. Theirs were the banners that drove off the Ironborn and played kingmker when the Gardners were weak. They were the ones who drove the Manterlys from the Reach and they were the ones who with the coming of the Dragons almost three centuries ago were made LP. That sort of prestige does not vanish overnight, especially since Mace is still a duke and of a rich land yet. He still has all the personal relationships he cultivated and many of the bonds of blood.
And that's what we got Bloodraven for.
 
"Hey, remember this guy? This guy? That's the one. He's one of my favorite people in this world. Yeah."
 
Viserys has been struck by a fey mood... well a little one at least.

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I would've say something along the lines of 'how much you wanna bet that's going to happen soon?'

But then I realized how much of a sucker's bet it was.

The real question is will he knowingly commit treason or unknowingly commit treason? Because I can imagine some strange set of circumstances where he makes some weird backroom deal with Baator while thinking that he's simply "expanding to new markets", or genuinely believing that Viserys will thank him for it for "opening a diplomatic channel".

I would make some comparison to "a monkey juggling knives until one stabs him", but that would be unfair to the Essarians.
 
Part MMMDCCLXX: Spirits of High Esteem
Spirits of High Esteem

Eighteenth Day of the Fifth Month 294 AC

"Ah, what a lonely room this would be if I were not to associate with people just because they plotted to murder me once or twice..." The words slip past your lips almost unbidden at the sheer absurdity of the scene. Glyra would be proud.

For a long moment the dead silence lasts as though the Curia members cannot believe what you said. Then of all people Garin, who had kept himself mostly to the shadows and spoken but three times in all the confirmations, twice with Valens so the man would not slip by without a word and once when he had quietly implied that it might be best not to question the ordering of the planes and the mechanisms of Baator's soul harvesting just yet, laughs. You are not entirely certain many of the Curia Princeps even realized the dark cloaked Grand Inquisitor could even laugh, much less that such an honest mirthful laugh could pass his lips unbidden. Then Vee giggles in her own seat, untroubled by any awkwardness, and that seems to serve as permission for the rest of the chamber to find it funny, though some people rather overdo it.

It was not that good a jape.

"Continue, Justice Morywn," you prompt and the dark-haired man has the grace to look a touch shamefaced, though any blush is lost in a lifetime spent in the sun.

Thus he does and to his credit when he gets into the joints and nails of his craft it is clear he knows it as few others could. He knows people and what makes them act as well as how they can be swayed to act reasonably, a task harder for pirates than so-called 'honest men'. Stannis of all folks comes away from questioning him satisfied, a fact which you suspect he will chew on a while yet.

In a way you suppose you should thank the moment of disruption, jest and all, for it allows the far less personable Vynar Jokarys to slide by with only the most rehearsed of lines and what looks to be a blessing of a silver tongue he must have gotten from one of your Companions by the power of it. Tyene seeing to it that the closest thing to a Dornishman on the High Court does not have too much trouble, you suspect, and you are glad for it. Talk of Dornish favoritism would be rather hard to ward off given that they are indeed favored and it would be rather impolitic to remind the assembled Curia that Doran Martell's seat would be one of those not emptied if you were to banish those who plotted your death.

The third proposed member of the High Court, Javad Rahbar, looks to be on his way to an equally smooth interview... until the new Governor of Skagos approaches him on the matter of slavery, particularly the fact that his own people yet practice it and that he must have resolved cases relating to 'that most pernicious institution' in the favor of the slaver.

"Do you believe that slavery is wrong, Justice Rahbar?" Slippery Sal asks sharply. "Is it a moral evil that should be purged from all the realms of this world and beyond, or is it just that we benighted mortals could not get slavery to work as it should by the measure of the wise shaitan?"

"You have a remarkable skill for putting words in the mouths of others, Your Excellency," the shaitan lawmaker replies, eyes of molten gold fixed upon the face of his questioner, revealing nothing in their slow swirling patterns. "I shall not be answering that question because it is immaterial to the position I have been offered. A judge is not one who makes decisions based on his own inner sense of right and wrong, but rather one who interprets the law and the will of the lawmaker. Anything else would be me grasping for the blood-steel crown the Imperator wears and I am not so prideful as to do that."

"Then perhaps Wisdom Lya shall craft a spell to give the very law a mind and a will of its own, sparing you from the labors of a soothsyaer," Sal shoots back, and with one last venomous glare takes his seat. "I have no further questions."

Well that conflict is not going away anytime soon, though you are not certain it matters that much. Sal is rather isolated within the bounds of the Curia Princeps and even among the Vox opinions like his are not likely to be too common. The shaitan judge takes his high seat and then the fourth and last of those selected for the post steps forth.

A golden light somehow not warm but cold fills the chamber, as though the fire of some endlessly distant celestial forge lost in the morning of the world were reflected in a mirror of steel. Upon the face of Chesed who walks in the light, whose name means Kindness, no expression could be read. Many of those present draw back into their seats, some curse in awe and wonder and some even begin to murmur a small prayer. Unlike Yrael the trumpeter of the Lost Lord sees no reason to hide his light nor make himself more approachable by mortal men, and few there are even in this hall to have met a bright spirit of the higher orders with his face unveiled.


"Ask your questions mortals, for I have little time and there is much that needs to be set in order in this as in all realms," the archon projects with the sharpness of a scalpel upon the minds of all in the chamber.

At first no one rises to speak and you fear that you might have to motion to one of your Companions to act lest the whole procedure grind to a halt. Then Zherys steps up to the task with the briefest glance in your direction that seems to ask, 'You thought they could handle this?'

"Justice Chesed, how would you describe your approach to the law and what is your hope to see done in your tenure on the High Court?" the sorcerer Volantene begins. Thankfully as he speaks and he is given answer, a man like other men in the lights of the chamber and the eyes of his fellow Princeps, some of the awe fades from the eyes of those attending and you get a few more questions from other quarters before the interview is done and much praise is given to the choice of the archon for the position.

Thus the High Court is filled, the business of the day is done, officially at least. It might be worth your while to speak to some of those who are positioning themselves to lead in the debates and in the fullness of time in other matters you do not doubt.

What do you do next?

[] A private meeting with one or more of the notables of the Curia
-[] Write in with whom

[] Continue on to the next day and the Trial of Tywin Lannister
-[] Write in any details you wish to add

[] Write in


OOC: Turns out when you take the kindness out of an angel you are often left with just the awe. Thankfully when the hind-brain finally shuts up enough to let the rest of the mind have its say he still registers as angel therefore good vibes and all.
 
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