A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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bags of holding are so convenient
Personally I'm fine with Lana being executed, i would just like her to be able to tell her side of the story before any decision is made. I would like to know what changed when she wasn't afraid to stand up to Tywin before, like when he asked her to assassinate Dany but also because i think that simply dealing with her offscreen would feel like a waste.
Don't her and Gerion have children? I think she would care more about being there for them rather than getting back at Viserys for killing Tywin and destroying the influence of House Lanister.
Don't her and Gerion have children? I think she would care more about being there for them rather than getting back at Viserys for killing Tywin and destroying the influence of House Lanister.
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noble house make a big deal of legacy ,linage and inheritance she might resent Viserys for taking away her children's future as nobles of house Lanister
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There's one easy way she could find it in her heart to not hate us forever for our actions against her and hers, if she hates Tywin more and rightly blames him for everything. We shall see how it goes.
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Viserys could probably convince her that he hasn't taken away their legacy but instead given them and her a chance to become something greater outside of the shadow of house Lannister and bloody Tywin.
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honestly I wouldn't put it past us to manage to shift all the blame and hate for house Lanister's fate onto Tywin while convince her that what we're going to do to house Lanister is an unavoidable necessary evil we've pulled crazier persuasion checks
This would require her to have an almost sociopathic detachment from almost everyone around her. Tywin may be mind fucking them, but we're still killing them as part of our invasion and subjugation of Westeros.
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Maybe Tywin thought that his glorious and fearsome reputation would be enough to keep these uppity stonemen mercenaries in line. You know, like how he cowed devils by killing some of them.
@Goldfish I think Oberyn will behave himself. At the very least Elia is back and will ensure it.
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When you think about it, there was really no other way for these mercenaries to react. Tywin hired the dregs, since nothing else was available for him, so of course they betray him the moment the going gets tough.
He managed to permanently soil his reputation with the Marid, so he could not get anyone there. Furthermore, he would have had to compete with the uptick in mercenary demands caused by recent anti-Illithid operations in the PoW. So this is pretty much a bust.
No Djinn would ever work with Tywin. Either on moral grounds or out of well-founded suspicion that he might try the same shit he did to his mages with them.
The Efreeti are instantly out, since they would never treat Tywin in a way he wouldn't consider insulting.
Salamanders would be an option, but everyone there who is fighting for money is likely already doing so for a faction with vastly more money than he can offer.
Pretty much every Shaitan merc in existence is likely either already being paid to fight by the Peerless Empire or the kind of untrustworthy that sees them barred from governmental contracts and earmarked for enslavement or execution if they ever come to the states attention again.
So... not much chance for him to get someone who is actually trustworthy or powerful enough to matter, let alone both.
I think she would care more about her children being able to grow up with parents instead of actually jeopardising their wellbeing by trying to get back at Viserys.
Well yes, but that's not necessarily our fault. We'd accept surrenders if they gave them, and they'd give them if they weren't mind fucked, and there's no possible way we could capture them all alive when all of them resist capture.
Really it's more her fault than ours since she's the one who went along with binding people and didn't think that it may be a bad idea until it was too late.
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We also blew up Gerions older brother Kevan, his niece and nephew Cersei and Jaime, will publicly execute his oldest brother Tywin, and wipe our ass with the name Lannister.
I mean, Lanna as a branch line Lannister might be more on board with forgetting about all of that, but for Gerion, we are talking about his immediate family being killed by us.
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clarified that for you
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Did I miss a lot of discussion where it was decided that we were going to give the 'It was me, Barry' supervillain speech to any Lannisters we captured?
Only about 85% sarcastic here, I tend to skip most of the chatter.
True, but we wouldn't actually need to hook both if we wanted. If we hook Lanna she'll bring him on side simply by pointing out that they have children who need their parents alive. And that he needs her to actually try to do any subversive activity, because she's the caster.
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From the Westerlands to the Far East of Yi-ti and the coast of Southros everyone know Cersei Lannister fucked her brother. Even across the Planes do they know. Welcome to the propaganda network
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"Remember when the Alchemist guild suddenly died one day with no warning? It was me Tywin, I killed them all and made it look like the nine hells did it to rob you of a key ally and discredit their reputation!"
"Remember when half of Lannisport and your trade fleet were destroyed by a strange mold? And people were left destitute and without homes? It was me Tywin, I sent a biologically engineered mold to cripple your infrastructure and make you look bad!"
-Viserys just before Tywins execution.
"Remember when half of Lannisport and your trade fleet were destroyed by a strange mold? And people were left destitute and without homes? It was me Tywin, I sent a biologically engineered mold to cripple your infrastructure and make you look bad!"
-Viserys just before Tywins execution.
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V: Remember the rumours about Joanna and Aerys and how people thought she was sleeping with him? It was me Tywin. I convinced my father to seduce your wife so that you would be called a cuckold.
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No, but odds are, they will blame us for that anyway. It's not as if there all that many other suspects for the whole thing.
I mean, we will obviously blame the whole thing on Pycelle, but while the public will buy that easily, I doubt Gerion and Lanna are gullible enough for that.
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Now for what I had originally intended to post before self inflicted memery derailed my train of thought:
Why kill them publicly when we can have 'them' publicly swear loyalty to us, while Bloodraven gets a couple freshly crafted meatpuppets to pilot? That way we can have our cake, eat it, and leave it out as a honeytrap for anyone looking to break our obvious foul mind control.
Why kill them publicly when we can have 'them' publicly swear loyalty to us, while Bloodraven gets a couple freshly crafted meatpuppets to pilot? That way we can have our cake, eat it, and leave it out as a honeytrap for anyone looking to break our obvious foul mind control.
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honestly Pycelle earned both his freedom and comfortable retirement he never acted with malice but only to ensure his own safety and survival when it became clear that the Lanister ship was sunk even if no one else realized it he was the first to abandon ship and planed to come to us to beg forgiveness he even had the forethought to make himself useful and bring as much intelligence as he could gain as tribute in fact it was only sheer fortune that we got to him before he got to us , so I don't feel comfortable screwing him over and pining any sort of blame on him , mind you was a rat through and through but his only motivations were safety and survival so you can't really hold it against him
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People keep misunderstanding this...
We will reincarnate Pycelle into a new, young body with a new identity and a cushy amount of money as a reward for defecting to us and doing his part in the Kings Landing infiltration.
I honestly can not think of anything that he would care less about than what vile slander spread about his former identity when he is sitting in the finest brothel in Volantis on our dime.
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We didn't actually kill anyone in Lannisport using the bio-weapon. It merely targeted wooden structures in the city, basically digesting them. I'm sure plenty of livelihoods were ruined and many resources lost or destroyed, but that's not nearly the same thing as feeding half the city to a murdermold.