A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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There's not much of a point in giving it to him and then taking it away again later. If he knows something about a topic and isn't warded that knowledge is accessible even if he isn't actively doing anything with it.
A whisper safe is the only example of a broad information gathering effect that still technically targets individual people that I can think of off the top of my head, but the point stands that it's possible. This is the kind of opening that the people we're most concerned about spying on us are most likely good at exploiting.
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egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
The middle option is one of the shadow forged Mindblanks, the ones we looted off Tiamat's forces, if @Goldfish says we have one to spare ar the moment.
Those are potentially pierseable by Blood Emp's effort, but it's not like we will care particularly much about him in any foreseeable future.
And they are all on less-than-important characters too.
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- Texas
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- He/Him
Didn't we have a problem with the Fey about our good intentions when we try to give some Reach lord a shadowforged Mind Blank? I would rather use one with no strings attached, especially for an RA this important.
We could always try to talk him into wearing a permanent Mask from Divination item.
It'd be perfect for our low level minions once they get over being creeped out by wearing eyeless masks that you can somehow see through.
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So, kinda related to the thread, but what's all the spells and techniques used for building infrastructure? Current game I'm in has my PC very interested in rebuilding CIVILIZATION (she misses her pleasant tea cafes at Wizard!Uni) in ye hinterlands. Only have Level 3 spells slots so far and Expeditious Construction can only be stretched so far....
Also, does anyone have the initial posts by Azel describing exaclty how the mercury is used in the aircraft engines? I remember something about using a specialized form of reverse gravity, but less so on why exactly mercury (or I imagine mercury's specific physical properties such as being a room temp liquid metal) were so important.
Also, does anyone have the initial posts by Azel describing exaclty how the mercury is used in the aircraft engines? I remember something about using a specialized form of reverse gravity, but less so on why exactly mercury (or I imagine mercury's specific physical properties such as being a room temp liquid metal) were so important.
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- Germany
For infrastructure, we use Lyre of Buildings for classical stuff and the Titan Tools for most large scale projects. I can honestly not find the original spells used for Titan tools, but I think it was Move Earth, Stone Metamorphosis, Mud to Stone and Stone to Mud, all as At-Will effects. @Goldfish, do you have a post handy that lists the component spells?
As is, we use either Titan Tools or Fabricate to create pre-fabricated standard parts, assemble them with a Lyre of Building or in the mundane way, then use Shape Stone to merge the parts into entirely seamless buildings. Highways are made by using Titan Tools to create a layer of Corundum that is a few centimeters high, laying on top of a bed of Basalt slabs.
I'm pretty sure the Anti-Grav Egnine design is stretched over a bunch of posts, so here is the gist:
- we use Reverse Gravity on a heavy object so that it falls upwards, thus generating lift
- said object is a tank of Walls of Force, filled with mercury, with the Walls of Force acting both as armor and to prevent the Reverse Gravity effect from being dispelled without breaking containment first
- we have developed a custom Reverse Gravity Effect to be able to make it fall in any directions and to adjust that direction on the fly, allowing it to fall upward, forward, backward and so on as needed
- there are three ways to regulate the amount of lift generated by an AG-Engine:
-- in large engines, you can insert a control rod with a AMF effect that only negates the Reverse Gravity effect, lowering the volume of the engine affected by the Reverse Gravity effect and thus the lift generated
-- with more then one engine, you can tilt the directions of the gravity so that the resulting force vectors partially negate each other
-- in small engines (Wyvern, Manticore), we use Mage Hand to remotely move mercury containers into or out of the effect
- mercury is used for three reasons:
-- if the containment Walls of Force fail, the mercury can be dumped out of the damaged engine room by simply letting it flow into a catch area that vents it out of the hull, thus preventing the scenario that an engine fails and now the other engines have to keep lifting the dead weight of the engines contents
-- mercury is extremely dense, further enhanced by Alter Weight, meaning we get more lift from the engine then if we used other materials, such as lead, steel or stone as the weight
-- by percentage of the earths crust, mercury is a fairly common element, and since the PoE mimics the composition of earth, it is also abundant there, which is why we got a whole lake of the stuff
-- Bonus Reason: a giant blob of liquid metal in a force-field looks neat as an anti-gravity engine
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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- USA
Clearly the most important reason.
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- Who knows?
Wow thanks for the writeup @Azel ! God pools of mercury floating around lifting things really is an amazing image.
Game is pure Pathfinder so likely can't do Titan's Tool. Stone Metamorphosis isn't in PF and the DM is uh wary of importing 3.5e spells. The others are for the future since they're a bit out of my range right now. Lyre of Building is probably the most availible option I have, but alas our campaign does not have Wealth Yes. Quite the opposite.
Game is pure Pathfinder so likely can't do Titan's Tool. Stone Metamorphosis isn't in PF and the DM is uh wary of importing 3.5e spells. The others are for the future since they're a bit out of my range right now. Lyre of Building is probably the most availible option I have, but alas our campaign does not have Wealth Yes. Quite the opposite.
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- Germany
Titan Tools would be 200,000 GP in regular D&D money, so they are not exactly cheap. As far as spells go though, an At-Will Shape Stone is both more important and more powerful then the Stone Metamorphosis. Though SM allows you to create useful stone in-situ, while Shape Stone would still have you hauling rock blocks from a quarry to the building site.
If money is an issue, then definitely start with a Lyre of Building. It can be used to create rods, irrigation channels or mines, all of which can be used in one form or another to generate money.
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This might take a while since I have a headache. Took a pill for it should be cleared up soon.
This might take a while since I have a headache. Took a pill for it should be cleared up soon.
Interlude CMLXXXV: Queen's Fall
Queen's Fall
Twenty Third Day of the Fourth Month 294 AC
The King was briefly startled by Brynden's voice in his mind. Then he could feel his thoughts turn inwards in a whirlwind of reasoning, weighing one risk against another. He did no want to stumble now at the end and for a moment Bloodraven could feel the pretender king's life hang in the balance. It would after all be easiest to change nothing at all. "Send him to the Great Sept of Baelor. He will have sanctuary there and being able to blame the Faith for this could be... convenient."
Were this another time, another place, where Brynden a younger and more prideful man, he might have said words then to the men and woman he was about to execute, but he was a spy and a sorcerer and he knew that in this new world more than the old every moment counted, and he would be damned if he gave Cersei Lannister one more breath with which to meddle in his plans.
An ivory rod slipped from the silken sleeve of the eunuch's robe, a tool of swiftest sorcery. The vessel's veins burned with power beyond what they had been meant to hold: "Be gone." So did the last of the Great Bastards command a false king and this time he had more than the subtle powers of a faded age to command.
Alas he was not the only bearing artifacts of power in the chamber, alas he would not get his wish. A pale light burst from the queen's left hand, a spell-duelist's enchantment, raised in reflexive ward. "Not my son!"
He was ready for it by the work of another far worthier queen-to-be before the first syllable was even past her lips. Bloodraven had cast an unraveling enchantment on the ring ere it could break his own spell before the company of lordlings could do more than stare and rattle in their armor. The Kingslayer at last had raised his shield for all the good it would do him...
Joffrey Waters was gone and for whatever his life was worth he was safe.
"Lolth xxizz uns'aa wun ussta klew'kin d'nadye." The words skittered like rats upon stone as one of the Queen's many talismans warped and twisted like wax under a candle's flame to reveal a blood red talisman marked with a web in night-black malachite.
Though the Old Gods did not know this interloper he could feel the weight of her malice and recalled talk of a spider-thing from the incursion in Gogossos. Mighty it might be in the depths of the world but this was not Her place. He triggered the belt that girdled the vessel's considerable waist and obliterated the talisman with a wave if his hand.
Most servants of the gods were so very attached to their tickets. They should truly learn to let go of material things. Even as the vessel's organs began to fail from the torturous magics called through it Bloodraven triggered the enchantment locked within since its creation. A moment later all was green flame and blades of adamantine in the halls of the Small Council as the Red Keep shook to its foundations from the force of the detonation.
If there was one thing Brynden regretted as he slipped into the body of a raven perched just right to see his handiwork it was not having the chance to see Sunglass' face at the realization he served an apostate.
Small Council Destroyed
What next?
[] Write in
OOC: You guys were wondering who would be crazy enough to give Cersei real magic, enough to bind a Winter Fey... well it just happens Lolth has a type and Cersei is basically it. Remember the poison that was used on Velaryon, the one traced as drow, though possibly very old?
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
The Lyres of Building we use are a great time and labor saving tool, and pretty cheap, too, at only 2,600 IM (13,000 GP) to buy or 1,300 IM to enchant for ourselves.
There are four separate Titan's Tools to a set, each of which can be used independently.
Move Earth for basic earth-moving on a massive scale. A single casting of this can save thousands upon thousands of man hours of work.
Wall of Stone to provide on demand building materials. Stone is abundant, but not always easily transported, so this one allows it to be created at will and the user can put it exactly where it needs to be while oftentimes doing some rough shaping on it which cuts down on the necessary finishing work.
Greater Stone Metamorphosis to transform the stone we create or quarry from the local environment. Not all stone is created equal, from a durability, utility, or aesthetics point of view, so this one is great not only for transforming stone into harder, more durable materials, such as corundum (i.e. ruby) or creating sheets of perfectly clear quartz crystal in lieu of glass, or changing something like drab sandstone into fine marble. All told, this one isn't so much a time saver for construction but rather a money saver in all the other infrastructure it bypasses (lowers repair costs, makes quarries much less common, removes the need for glass, etc.).
Greater Stone Shape does the heavy lifting. This one lets you move the stone, put it exactly where you want it, then shape it into the final product. Another massive time saver, but also one that significantly cuts down on operating costs, since a single person wielding it replaces thousands of stonemasons and all of the necessary upkeep involved in maintaining such a large group of skill laborers.
A full set costs us 40,000 IM, or 200,000 GP, but we only get them that cheap because they are specialty items produced in the Opaline Vault and are basically necessary tools for most civilizations wishing to operate on the Plane of Earth. They've gotten the enchanting process so streamlined and perfected that they can produce them much more cheaply than most magic crafting, otherwise a set would cost us 80,000 IM.
This is all a bit much for low level adventurers who don't have an empire backing them with close to unlimited funding. For smaller scale stuff, basic Stone Metamorphosis and Stone Shape can still save a huge amount of time, effort, and resources, and Wall of Stone and Move Earth aren't really necessary if you have stone nearby and aren't trying to do round the clock mega-projects.
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
...Kinda ironic that they tried to keep Joffrey from being sent away. It makes sense, of course, they couldn't know Bloodraven was trying to save his life... but still.
- Location
- India
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- He/His
Oh, Daaammn!
I could not foresee this twist. I thought Cersei had fallen to demons, not Lolth specifically.
I could not foresee this twist. I thought Cersei had fallen to demons, not Lolth specifically.
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- ?????????
Okay so that's a thing. Looks like Yss' ancient enemy is on the move again. Fucking drow.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Queen's Fall
Twenty Third Day of the Fourth Month 294 AC
The king was briefly startled by Brynden's voice in his mind. Then he could feel his thoughts turn inwards in a whirlwind of reasoning, weighing one risk against another. He did not want to stumble now at the end, and for a moment Bloodraven could feel the pretender king's life hang in the balance. It would after all be easiest to change nothing at all. "Send him the the Great Sept of Baelor. He will have sanctuary there and being able to blame the Faith for this could be... convenient."
Were this another time, another place, were Brynden a younger and more prideful man, he might have said words then to the men and woman he was about to execute, but he was a spy and he was a sorcerer, and he knew that in this new world more than the old, every moment counted and he would be damned if he gave Cersei Lannister one more breath with which to meddle in his plans.
An ivory rod slipped from the silken sleeve of the eunuch's robe, a tool of swiftest sorcery. The vessel's veins burned with power beyond what they had been meant to hold: "Be gone." So did the last of the Great Bastards command a false king, and this time he had more than the subtle powers of a faded age to command.
Alas, he was not the only one bearing artifacts of power in the chamber, and thus he would not get his wish. A pale light burst from the queen's left hand, a spell-duelist's enchantment, raised in reflexive ward. "Not my son!"
He was ready for it by the work of another, far worthier queen-to-be. Before the first syllable was even past her lips, Bloodraven had cast an unraveling enchantment upon the ring before it could break his own spell, before the company of lordlings could do more than stare and rattle in their armor. The Kingslayer at last had raised his shield, for all the good it would do him...
Joffrey Waters was gone and for whatever his life was worth he was safe.
"Lolth xxizz uns'aa wun ussta klew'kin d'nadye." The words skittered like rats upon stone as one of the Queen's many talismans warped and twisted like wax under a candle's flame to reveal a blood red talisman marked with a web in night-black malachite.
Although the Old Gods did not know this interloper, he could feel the weight of her malice and recalled talk of a spider-thing from the incursion in Gogossos. Mighty it might be in the depths of the world, but this was not Her place. He triggered the belt that girdled the Vessel's considerable waist and obliterated the talisman with a wave if his hand.
Most servants of the gods were so very attached to their trinkets. They should truly learn to let go of material things. Even as the vessel's organs began to fail from the torturous magics called through, it Bloodraven triggered the enchantment locked within since its creation. A moment later, all was green flame and blades of adamant in the halls of the Small Council as the Red Keep shook to its foundations from the force of the detonation.
If there was one thing Brynden regretted as he slipped into the body of a raven perched just right to see his handiwork, it was not having the chance to see Sunglass' face at the realization he served an apostate.
Small Council Destroyed
What next?
[] Write in
OOC: You guys were wondering who would be crazy enough to give Cersei real magic, enough to bind a Winter Fey... well it just happens Lolth has a type and Cersei is basically it. Remember the poison that was used on Velaryon, the one traced as drow, though possibly very old? Not yet edited.
Ah, damn, I love it when a plan comes together. It took a couple years, but the wait was well worth it. 🤓
Huh, that makes perfect sense. If anyone could be enough of a vile bitch to attract Lolth's attention away from her pet Drow, it would be Cersei Lannister. Can you give us any info on her, DP, now that she's been chunky salsa'd? Class and level-wise, I mean?
Her actual type is Littlefinger+Cersei+TV show ending danerys.
Cersei is no Banere matron. But she does cause lots of chaos....
Oh God.
Oh no. Menzzoboranzan or not, a reincarnated drow Cersei would be such an ironic protagonist. And if there's a goddess that's into that sort of pointless diversion..
I just hope this isn't current Loth. She buffed out by stealing a demon realm and climbing chaos' ladder as is her shtick.
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doesn't baleful telephone do massive damage? Isn't Joffery now hamburger meat?
Keep in mind you killed her, you did not soul destroy her. Her precise powers and level could still be relevant and thus a spoiler.