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Exactly! Spent almost four months in recovery since my first surgery fucked up and it started coming back.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Goldfish
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Damn, that sucks. A buddy of mine had to have one removed a while back. IIRC, he was mostly confined to a bed for the better part of two weeks. Having to go through that all over twice...
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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I wouldn't be surprised if there is already such a template floating around somewhere on the internet, but nothing comes to mind.
Deities are organically shaped by their worshipers, at least per the lore in this quest, since the belief of those worshipers can gradually influence the god's behaviors, attitudes, and even the tenets they espouse. Sacrifices, on the other hand, act to solidify a deity without changing them, since that is pure power with no emotional or psychic component contributed by the worshipers. That's why the Old Gods have remained largely static for millennia, as they don't accept the power worshipers might send their way, relying instead on sacrifice and whatever other method of acquisition is available to a gestalt hive mind god network.
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Does imperial God take traits from other Gods of the pantheon or his or her evolution does not rely on other gods of the pantheon?
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
It's intended to not have any real traits, except for acting as a reservoir of power to be made available for our own use and use by allied deities, and eventually the basis for the Imperial Afterlife. The plan is for it to never develop any personality or sentience.
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It's gonna be a core enforced aspect. Even if it tends towards that direction any attempts at sentience will be actively strangled.
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- India
I think it will develop a personality one way or another. If you just store a fuckton of souls there it will slowly develop a personality.
it make it conceptually weak, you are basically making a human version of Ynnread without any personality. It is far better to mold it's personality rather than curtailing it's natural growth.
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ryuan
From Zero to Hero!
Can't see how that will end up in the long term, since it reaching sentience given enough time is inevitable.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
It's possible, of course, but only over a very, very long time frame, likely several centuries at a minimum. If that happens, the Imperial Deity will have been shaped by its entire existence as a force of Law, Knowledge, and civilization. I doubt that many of us would have an issue with what might become a true Imperial Deity.
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It's going to be stronger than a major deity, and a well of power for the Imperial Pantheon. It not having a personality is exactly what we're going for since Viserys is the one in charge.
Think of it like Halo's dumb AIs vs the smart AIs like Cortana. At most we'd be going for dumb AI to automate a lot of the functions of the Imperium, like road maintenance, safeguarding the afterlife, etc. But allowing a personality to develop is very dangerous. We have direct evidence of proper gods being shaped by worship, some in ways that really screw them over (see the Seven dropping magic like a hot potato).
ryuan
From Zero to Hero!
It's more the idea that it would be a tiiiiiny bit peeved at the periodic lobotomy it would suffer before then.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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Possible, but I don't think that the most likely outcome, not with the way we're forming it or the foundation we're laying. If it was supposed to be a creature of conquest, to mindlessly fuel war machines intended to subjugate the extraplanar empires, or an ever watchful entity meant to observe every citizen and root out sedition, then I might be concerned. We have the Legions and Navy for the first and the Inquisition for the latter, so the Imperial Deity can instead serve as the backbone for an efficient bureacracy, world class education system, and cradle of the millions of souls who will call it's afterlife home.
I imagine that it would be very much like Abadar of Pathfinder's cosmology.
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Exactly I am surprised we being so paranoid about it after our reckless adventures with the divine. I mean if everybody was this paranoid while we first accepted killing animals I could have accepted that but at this point that much paranoia is excessive.
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Jack vile Ripper
The swellest guy in Creation.
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Eeeeh, I feel like it would be more Unconquered Sun than anything else. Theion has his Majesty as the King of the Gods. But is utterly unfit for anything but Warring, Leading and Ruleship.
Whilst Sol Invictus is more flexible (well, as flexible as having 5s in every Virtues) to every abilities and skills known to man or immortals.
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That's literally just one person claiming that without evidence.
We have a pretty major counterexample though: The Old Gods. Millenia of power and a well filled afterlife, yet it still is a hivemind without overarching intelligence.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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If we do succeed here, we'll find ourselves in a curious position of having... pretty much everything we need to spark the Imperial Deity, but not having the knowledge base developed yet.
We have the stolen dimension of Anu-Simung as the I!Deity's Plane (or a base of one anyway), we('ll) have Drowny's power as the core to build I!Deity from, and the Imperial Steel beacons researched and ready to be deployed (once made) as the material foci for it.
Tldr, if we win here, we might have an incentive to start rushing the Imperial Deity RAs, fuckload of them as it is.
We have the stolen dimension of Anu-Simung as the I!Deity's Plane (or a base of one anyway), we('ll) have Drowny's power as the core to build I!Deity from, and the Imperial Steel beacons researched and ready to be deployed (once made) as the material foci for it.
Tldr, if we win here, we might have an incentive to start rushing the Imperial Deity RAs, fuckload of them as it is.
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Imperial Palace as the physical location is also done, so, yeah. We need more research efforts there.
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Woof well. Yeah haven't been commenting as much since well, thanks DP for introducing me to another quest to hyperfixate on and I feel the shit going on here is well out of my scope and I can't really comment except to say "damn thats cool" and "can we really pull that off?" the tiny little psionic puppeteers are uh. Well I suppose we can take care of them, but it's yet another sign of how much shit the Illithid had around here. Will be willing to do more reflection on this time loop and see how many things it retro (?) actively makes hilarious afterwards
But in general main Aife is really making all of those sacrifices isn't he(?). Good sea kitty!
But in general main Aife is really making all of those sacrifices isn't he(?). Good sea kitty!
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Getting a blast from the past from old posts from around page 6757. Remember when people wanted to sabotage the Archons in Mantarys because they were being too successful at training mages and we were afraid that we wouldn't be able to stretch our Empire over the whole world because their nation wouldn't provide us with a casus belli to invade?
Straight-up Lawful Evil shit right there.
Thankfully we didn't do it, but this does go to show that the regular "this Viserys guy is a power-hungry conqueror" people aren't entirely wrong about what's going on in our head. It's just that Viserys still has empathy for suffering that he sees directly, and he still has goals that are Good and benevolent mixed in with his desire for a hoard-Empire stretched ever further byjackbooted thugs Legionnaires.
Straight-up Lawful Evil shit right there.
Thankfully we didn't do it, but this does go to show that the regular "this Viserys guy is a power-hungry conqueror" people aren't entirely wrong about what's going on in our head. It's just that Viserys still has empathy for suffering that he sees directly, and he still has goals that are Good and benevolent mixed in with his desire for a hoard-Empire stretched ever further by
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Thank you for reminding us of the good posts of the past!
Multiple people in this thread have previously expressed satisfaction at being reminded of old debates/omakes/posts by receiving alerts on old stuff (me included). You aren't bothering anyone, you're making their day!
Enjoy this quest!
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When you have so many assets and cool shit that you just forget about that giant multi headed monster you sent to guard a temple in the middle of a giant city... Just Viserys things.