Do feel for the Starks but to be honest the only thing Viserys would care about would be Jon and that's for the family ties. Heck we got Sansa with the Royces in case most of them dies.
 
...I feel like y'all don't properly appreciate the massively thought-provoking and society-shaping cultural layer that shitty Gachimuchi-jokes are.
Philistines.
 
Could be worse. They have to use assets that will slip below the level of the Old Gods and Bloodraven's attention, that will then be nerfed somewhat by the Winterfell protections. There's also the potential for a Reed Interrupt unless I missed their presence definitely elsewhere in the cast of thousands of thousands.

Or, we could have:

 
Hell, you know what most stuff can't deal with?

Getting critted in the face by a +2 Greatsword. Can't save against that!

Again, I think this'll mostly come down to a handful of crucial rolls. If the Other-thingie doesn't get a surprise round, if Ned gets in melee without any appreciable harm coming to him beforehand, or if Halys gets the right SoD or utility protective spell off, if Bloodraven's assistance is close enough to react. Even one more 5th circle druid could completely turn that fight around if they use the right spell.

Edit: Also @DragonParadox, I see Brynden getting quite a bit of crow coming his way from the Old Guys. Getting distracted by Southron scheming is exactly what some of the detractors in the Green Dream were complaining about. Not that we're any less guilty, we're probably more at fault for pinning some crucial parts of our plan on him without much way we could really support him since it was mostly social and information manipulation on his part.
 
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My money is on the thing picking off some more low-threat targets like the Stark kids and using their lives as fuel to make more undead.

The true threat of undead forces is not "relentlessness" or "unholy vigor", but that they can replenish their losses by converting yours to new soldiers.
 
Edit: Also @DragonParadox, I see Brynden getting quite a bit of crow coming his way from the Old Guys. Getting distracted by Southron scheming is exactly what some of the detractors in the Green Dream were complaining about. Not that we're any less guilty, we're probably more at fault for pinning some crucial parts of our plan on him without much way we could really support him since it was mostly social and information manipulation on his part.

Yeah, this is pretty much textbook southern distraction, on the other hand the thing that did the most distracting was a winter fey... which may not have been a coincidence. Cersei's seeming competence in binding it looks a little different in this light.
 
I honestly can't, as long as Ned's kids are still alive. Lyanna probably just wants everyone to leave Jon the hell alone. Which, to be fair, includes us.

Maybe its just my imagination. Just seeing Ned dying. Cat becoming regent to whatever Stark kid that survives and then throwing Jon out. Which makes Lyanna retaliate.

I don't know. Maybe I'm overthinking it and letting my imagination go wild.
 
Maybe its just my imagination. Just seeing Ned dying. Cat becoming regent to whatever Stark kid that survives and then throwing Jon out. Which makes Lyanna retaliate.

I don't know. Maybe I'm overthinking it and letting my imagination go wild.
Lyanna would not try to usurp Ned's kids, regardless. And worse comes to worse... she knows Jon's got a place in the South.
 
Yeah, this is pretty much textbook southern distraction, on the other hand the thing that did the most distracting was a winter fey... which may not have been a coincidence. Cersei's seeming competence in binding it looks a little different in this light.

So they actually spent power to overpower the OG so that we don't get info about this

We need to invent global warming as a form of passive-agressive protest
 
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The Starks are doomed, probably. Unless Ned actually makes the WIS check to recognize an ancient threat in Winterfell and sounds the alarm. That'd be such a cool scene.
Yeah, this is pretty much textbook southern distraction, on the other hand the thing that did the most distracting was a winter fey... which may not have been a coincidence. Cersei's seeming competence in binding it looks a little different in this light.
Cersei, you are the gift that keeps giving.
Lyanna would not try to usurp Ned's kids, regardless. And worse comes to worse... she knows Jon's got a place in the South.
She's also an utterly irrational undead, even if she loves her son. I honestly doubt she'll tell Jon to come to us. It'd probably be Jon going, "Can't I just go to my other uncle?"
 
She's also an utterly irrational undead, even if she loves her son. I honestly doubt she'll tell Jon to come to us. It'd probably be Jon going, "Can't I just go to my other uncle?"

The irrational part also was in my thoughts. If Lyanna either needed to go over Neds kids for Jon or leave Winterfell to be with Viserys.....Honestly wouldn't know what she would pick.
 
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