Agreed. The Snare isn't meant to be a ritual site, other than for Summoning.
Which, it bears spelling out, has nothing to do with Summoning being a ritual and everything with the creatures we drag into our world being stuff that we do not want to get away from us.

Hence doing it in a place that makes it extremely hard to get out, while not really having all that much dedicated effort put into preventing stuff from getting in.
 
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@egoo, a few notes on your turn plan:
  • Two typoes: it's "Viper" and "Terrestrial"
  • Please elaborate on the Lucan MA. Are we going to murder him? Get a truce? Get him off-plane for the duration of the Conquest? Talk him into accepting our Conquest? Getting a closer alliance against the Others and Deep Ones?
  • Can we really send the Adamantine Golem to kill people for us? I don't remember if he's actually sworn to our service, or if he's just a normal citizen that we probably shouldn't be conscripting without pay to send into a deathtrap (it'd be a bad precedent to set and might incentivize useful PCs not to immigrate if we make a habit of this).
 
@egoo, a few notes on your turn plan:
  • Two typoes: it's "Viper" and "Terrestrial"
  • Please elaborate on the Lucan MA. Are we going to murder him? Get a truce? Get him off-plane for the duration of the Conquest? Talk him into accepting our Conquest? Getting a closer alliance against the Others and Deep Ones?
  • Can we really send the Adamantine Golem to kill people for us? I don't remember if he's actually sworn to our service, or if he's just a normal citizen that we probably shouldn't be conscripting without pay to send into a deathtrap (it'd be a bad precedent to set and might incentivize useful PCs not to immigrate if we make a habit of this).
Bahro the Adamantine Golem spent some time in the library learning about the Imperium, then afterwards learned to be a monk and agreed to enter our service. He's fought by our side before in a few major battles.
 
Winning Vote
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Nov 9, 2020 at 7:33 AM, finished with 77 posts and 8 votes.

  • [X] Sandor Praetorian Conversion
    [X] Retroactive Water Elemental Creation:
    -[X] Inquisition/Free Forces: 150x Large Water Elementals (CR 5) -- 135,000 IM; 50x Greater Water Elementals -- 180,000 IM; 20x Elder Water Elementals (CR 11) -- 144,000 IM, 459,000 IM TOTAL
    -[X] 2050x Large Water Elementals (CR 5) (5x per City Defense Group, 50x per Stationary Aquatic Force, 20x per Roving Patrol) 900 each -- total, 1,845,000 IM
    -[X] 400x Greater Water Elementals (CR 9) (10x per Stationary Force, 5x per Roving Patrol) 3,600 each -- total, 1,440,000 IM
    -[X] 161x Elder Water Elementals (CR 11) (5x per Stationary Force, 1x Per Roving Patrol) 7,200 each -- total, 1,159,200 IM
    -[X] Total: 4,903,200 IM
 
Interlude CMXLII: Standing Tall
Standing Tall

Sixth Day of the Third Month 294 AC

The walls of the tunnel were covered in pale vines that coiled through the dark spaces as the witch-lights on the walls seemed to pulse like a living thing. The air stank of yeast and nameless spices, like sweat and fear. It reminded Sandor of the smell of an armed camp before battle, it reminded him of the court where the great lords feasted on fine meats and the king drank away his life in Arbor Gold and Dornish Red.

He kept putting one step in front of the other like he always did, this was his chance at last. He hadn't expected it to come through a magic brew and wizard's craft, he hadn't expected to ever set foot on bloody Sothoryos and none of that was worth a bent copper besides the chance to finally kill fucking Gregor.

The door beyond opened like a pale mouth filled with shapes he couldn't quite put a name to. The chain devil clinking and smiling way too bloody too cheerfully called them 'pods' as she explained what he would be going through.

I would've sold my soul for this if some other devil had found me in my cups, the Hound admitted to himself has he unbelted his sword and shed his armor with a clang. Lucky me it was the dragon and his tame devils that found me. The younger Clegane brother was not used to thinking himself as lucky, but he didn't take the thought back even as the fleshy lid came down on the pod. It didn't matter what kind of monster he would come out as, so long as he could kill Gregor. After all, he had seen first hand how good monsters were at killing.

***​

Elsewhere Elsewhen

Sandor Clagane burned as though he had been wrapped in sheets of fire, sizzling filled his ears and his arms were heavy at his sides... broken... useless, unable to raise a hand to his defense, a nightmare at once familiar and strange. It wasn't his face that burned this time, just the rest of him. He could feel his skin crackling and peeling, he could feel his eyes boiling in their sockets. He burned and in his mind he gripped the stake all the tighter. The Hound had not forgotten why he was here, what he had been promised. He would endure.

"The fire isn't real," a familiar voice, high and girlish echoed from somewhere outside his blind torment. "Open your eyes." It didn't sound like an order, more a request.

Sandor opened eyes, though some part of him insisted he wouldn't be able to. Before him was a field of grey as though fog had swallowed up the world and saw the little princess perched on a roundish chunk of stone like something fished out of a river. "What the fuck?" he didn't bother holding back the curse, still not sure this was real.

"The pain is real of course," she continued. "It could hardly be otherwise. The transformation is soul deep and that is something no potion or spell can utterly expunge."

"Then what difference does it make?" the Hound growled as he tried to pick himself off the ground. Probably wasn't a dream he decided, he didn't think he would be seeing this of all things if it was just in his head.

"By thinking of it as fire to be endured you are making it worse," the little princess endured. "For all we call the place your body now rests a 'Flesh Forge' you are not a sword being forged anew under a smith's hammer, Sandor Clegane, more like a caterpillar wrapped in silk as it grows into a butterfly. " At the word a single blue butterfly as big as her head somehow unfolded itself from the girl's palm.

Mariya had liked butterflies. Maybe it was the strangeness of the place he found himself, or maybe the pain like phantom fingers along his spine, but the thought didn't come with the surge of anger he was accustomed to. "Good distraction, doesn't hurt as bad." he said, not quite sure how to thank the princess when part of him still resented her presence.

A silence stretched uncomfortably before the girl asked: "So did you hear the jest about the hunter and the fisherman?"

Sandor only looked at her darkly, as much bemused as suspicious.

"Talking will keep your mind off the pain and that seemed an innocuous enough topic," she replied, shifting a little on her seat, though only Sandor's familiarity allowed him to pick out that she might be a touch uncomfortable. "I'll just be quiet if you like."

In spite of himself the warrior snorted in amusement. "Well let's hear it then, the joke."

"A hunter lies in wait, a fisherman waits, then lies," she replied.

It wasn't a very good joke. He laughed anyway.

***​

Thirtieth Day of the Third Month 294 AC

He rolled from the pod in a wave of oily water that formed strange patterns on the floor. For a moment all Sandor could do was stare at it. It was so much clearer, sharper. He could feel the moss-covered floor, the hot air, he could smell a thousand times more things for which he had no name. Instinctively Sandor rose to his feet... up and up and up.

I must be ten feet tall, maybe a few inches higher yet, the first praetorian realized. It should have thrown him off, he still remembered how clumsy he had been when he had gotten his inches in as a boy. But somehow he felt lighter on his feet than he had ever been in his life, stronger too and pulsing in his veins was fire, bright and cold, fire that was now his to do with as he wished.

Without thinking Sandor jumped, just to see how high he could go. The answer it turned out was very bloody high.

Sandor Clegane becomes the First Praetorian

What next?

[] Write in

OOC: You will notice he did not immediately think 'I'm taller than Gregor'. That thought will occur soon, but it was not quite the first thing on his mind in the moment of transformation. The scars are starting to heal at least a little.
 
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Standing Tall

Sixth Day of the Third Month 294 AC

The walls of the tunnel were covered in pale vines that coiled through the dark spaces as the witch-lights on the wall seemed to pulse like a living thing. The air stank of yeast and nameless spices, like sweat and fear. It reminded Sandor of the smell of an armed camp before battle, of the court where the great lords feasted on fine meats and the king drank away his life in Arbor Gold and Dornish Red.

He kept putting one step in front of the other, like he always did. This was his chance at last. He hadn't expected it to come through magic brew and wizard's craft, he hadn't expected to ever set foot on bloody Sothoryos, and none of that was worth a bent copper beside the chance to finally kill fucking Gregor.

The door beyond opened like a pale mouth filled with shapes he couldn't quite put a name to. The chain devil, clinking and smiling way too bloody, too cheerfully, called them 'pods' as she explained what he would be going through.

I would've sold my soul for this if some other devil had found me in my cups, the Hound admitted to himself has he unbelted his sword and shed his armor with a clang. Lucky me, it was the dragon and his tame devils that found me. The younger Clegane brother was not used to thinking himself as lucky, but he didn't take the thought back, even as the fleshy lid came down on the pod. It didn't matter what kind of monster he would come out as, so long as he could kill Gregor. After all, he had seen first hand how good monsters were at killing.

***​

Elsewhere Elsewhen

Sandor Clagane burned as though he had been wrapped in sheets of fire. Sizzling filled his ears and his arms were heavy at his side... broken... useless, unable to raise a hand to his defense, a nightmare at once familiar and strange. It wasn't his face that burned this time, just the rest of him. He could feel his skin crackling and peeling, he could feel his eyes boiling in their sockets. He burned, and in his mind he gripped the stake all the tighter. The Hound had not forgotten why he was here, what he had been promised. He would endure.

"The fire isn't real," a familiar voice, high and girlish echoed from somewhere outside his blind torment. "Open your eyes." It didn't sound like an order, but more a request.

Sandor opened eyes, though some part of him insisted he wouldn't be able to. Before him was a field of grey, as though fog had swallowed up the world, and he saw the little princess perched on a roundish chunk of stone like something fished out of a river. "What the fuck?" he didn't bother holding back the curse, still not sure this was real.

"The pain is real, of course," she continued. "It could hardly be otherwise. The transformation is soul deep and that is something no potion or spell can utterly expunge."

"Then what difference does it make?" the Hound growled as he tried to pick himself off the ground. Probably wasn't a dream, he decided. He didn't think he would be seeing this of all things if it was just in his head.

"By thinking of it as fire to be endured, you are making it worse," the little princess continued. "For all that we call the place your body now rests a 'flesh forge', you are not a sword being forged anew under the smith's hammer, Sandor Clegane. It is more like a caterpillar wrapped in silk as it grows into a butterfly. " At the word a single blue butterfly as big as her head somehow unfolded itself from the girl's palm.

Mariya had liked butterflies. Maybe it was the strangeness of the place he found himself, or maybe the pain like phantom fingers along his spine, but the thought didn't come with the surge of anger he was accustomed to. "Good distraction, doesn't hurt as bad," he said, not quite sure how to thank the princess when part of him still resented her presence.

Silence stretched uncomfortably before the girl asked, "So did you hear the jest about the hunter and the fisherman?"

Sandor only looked at her darkly, as much bemused as suspicious.

"Talking will keep your mind off the pain and that seemed an innocuous enough topic," she replied, shifting a little on her seat, though only Sandor's familiarity allowed him to pick out that she might be a touch uncomfortable. "I'll just be quiet, if you like."

In spite of himself, the warrior snorted in amusement. "Well let's hear it then, the joke."

"A hunter lies in wait, a fisherman waits, then lies," she replied.

It wasn't a very good joke. He laughed anyway.

***​

Thirtieth Day of the Third Month 294 AC

He rolled from the pod in a wave of oily water that formed strange patterns on the floor. for a moment all Sandor could to was stare at it. It was so much clearer, sharper. He could feel the moss-covered floor, the hot air, he could smell a thousand times more things for which he had no name. Instinctively Sandor rose to his feet... up and up and up.

I must be ten feet tall, maybe a few inches higher yet, the first praetorian realized. It should have thrown him off. He still remembered how clumsy he had been when he had gotten his inches in as a boy. But somehow he felt lighter on his feet than he had ever been in his life. Stronger, too, and pulsing in his veins was fire, bright and cold, fire that was now his to do with as he wished.

Without thinking, Sandor jumped, just to see how high he could go. The answer ,it turned out, was very bloody high.

What next?

[] Write in

OOC: You will notice he did not immediately think 'I'm taller than Gregor'. That thought will occur soon, but it was not quite the first thing on his mind in the moment of transformation. The scars are starting to heal at least a little. Not yet edited.
Here's an edited version of the chapter, DP.
 
Bahro the Adamantine Golem spent some time in the library learning about the Imperium, then afterwards learned to be a monk and agreed to enter our service. He's fought by our side before in a few major battles.
Oh yeah, I remember enjoying seeing him wreck Golden Company troops. They had answers to lots of our stuff, but not to him!
He has the template here applied.
Maybe put the link in the update itself?
 
He has the template here applied.
I'll try to get his sheet updated in the next day or two. Hopefully before I have to finish packing up everything for the move this weekend.
Also:
@DragonParadox, will Sandor cross the threashold from Medium to Large due to his Praetori conversion and will he get the benefits of the size increase?
He has the Simple, Giant template. For the Large size.
 
@Goldfish, I can do his sheet for you. Any new equipment you prepared for him except the Warden-pattern power armor?

If not, I'd make him a generic Imperial Steel sword.
 
He was mindless at that point. Now he isn't! Also wasn't a monk
Neither a mind nor Monk-powers stop a Forcecage, for one example.
Being unable to teleport is just bad strategy for a high-CR threat.

So, for the vote, I guess we can get started on the Ritual now?
If we want maximum divine support we'll have to do it right in SD, where all our temples are, so that means maximum alert on all stations for the entire area.
 
@Goldfish, I can do his sheet for you. Any new equipment you prepared for him except the Warden-pattern power armor?

If not, I'd make him a generic Imperial Steel sword.
I appreciate the offer, but I really don't mind doing it. It will actually be a nice distraction. If I don't get it done this evening, it's all yours.

I need to look over his gear, not so much because he needs upgrades, but because the Enhancement bonuses from his Praetorian template won't stack with those from his gear. Some of his kit can be swapped out with stuff, some better and some technically lesser. We'll go ahead and push his Constitution gear bonus up to +6, though, which will supersede his Praetorian bonus.
 
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Aren't we using the Pathfinder ruling of all Force effects having HP now, rather than the 3.5 "some are invulnerable"?
I don't believe so. It's not all Force effects that will have HP, but only those like Brilliant Barrier, which are mobile and deliberately trade resilience for speed and range, or those we are researching that will be selectively permeable.
 
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