Is there any problem we cannot solve with blood sacrifice?
Damn, hindsight is 20/20.
I figure doing this is exactly the kinda thing that'll get a Horsemen brought down on you with a cavalcade of chucklefucks following the Beacon it lights off momentarily.Apparently so. At least the upper ranks. The lower ranks are so numerous as to be effectively infinite for most purposes.
We've been doing a bit of brainstorming on how to industrialize the Summoning and destruction of high level Daemons. CR 20 Olethrodaemons are a bit of a hassle to plan around, but I've got a scheme guaranteed to kill CR 18 Purrodaemons and CR 16 Astradaemons within 2 minutes of being Summoned without any additional effort.
Well it makes for a shit coatl protein supplement, but other than that it's pretty universally useful.Is there any problem we cannot solve with blood sacrifice?
Damn, hindsight is 20/20.
If both gods and the material plane exist they liklely have some form of that agreement.What gods would that be? Heaven answers to Asmodeus now, and we haven't seen any gods meaningfully capable of opposing him even if they were interested in doing it. That balancing act died with the breaking.
The Imperial Airforce doesn't run on blood sacrifice.IIRC, blood sacrifice has solved every single major roadblock we've come across in this quest.
That and menacingly having a polite discussion with someone about how they should capitulate to literally all of our demands and making them think it was their only option.
Maybe you can empower individual artillery shells with blood magic?
Maybe we can figure out how to substitute Explosive Packs with a concoction made from ground up Cacodaemons.Maybe you can empower individual artillery shells with blood magic?
It's mostly hysterical, giddy relief that 16,000 pages of playing in this quest isn't about to come crashing down for nothing because we couldn't conquer the Reach.I want to be upset about the planned atrocities. But your all so happy. Like a puppy. A blood soaked puppy dragging a trail of entrails behind it while wagging its little tail behind it.
Keep her out of this. Really.Moonsinger Goddess -- This one is only potentially, but we can sacrifice items to her and take advantage of her Freedom Domain after explaining the Feywild plan to her and why it absolutely sucks for every poor human schmuck stuck in the Reach. I was thinking of getting her to smite the connection between the Court of Stars and the Kingdom of the Reach as hard as possible. It wouldn't need to break the connection even, just weaken it enough that the rest of the above ritual is more effective against the Fey. Arguably this has the greatest potential for fucking with the Court of Stars' plans, which is enough for me to seriously give it consideration.
So like an Enervation bomb?Maybe we can figure out how to substitute Explosive Packs with a concoction made from ground up Cacodaemons.
And it would have been at least partially the Tyrells fault at that.It's mostly hysterical, giddy relief that 16,000 pages of playing in this quest isn't about to come crashing down for nothing because we couldn't conquer the Reach.
No, I meant finding a way to extract the essence of a Daemon and make it explode. With fire and shrapnel. Which may or may not be super cursed.So like an Enervation bomb?
Seems like a waste of time, or a specialty artillery shell for things pretty much immune to blunt force trauma and metal flechette.
Look, all of us here have invested literal years of our lives into this thread.I want to be upset about the planned atrocities.
But your all so happy. Like a puppy. A blood soaked puppy dragging a trail of entrails behind it while wagging its little tail behind it.
Fair enough, we can make do with the rest. The Old Gods, the Merling King, Yss, and R'hllor are collectively all the firepower we need, and they're all perfectly happy with accepting fiendish sacrifices and doing us favors which benefit their worshipers. Or just because they're always hungry.Keep her out of this. Really.
She is a... Neutral Good goddess, right? She will be absolutely no bueno with butchering a few thousand sentients to commit a spot of genocide on the Fey.
Actually, I don't that it would be that difficult to make the Snare into a complete death trap for one of the Horsemen if they were stupid enough to show up, assuming of course that we know it's coming and have a bit of prep time. Some fairly extensive prep work would need to be done ahead of time, but with that ready all we would only need would be a few rounds to get set up. As long as we successfully negate their 1/Day Wish SLA, they wouldn't be able to escape.I figure doing this is exactly the kinda thing that'll get a Horsemen brought down on you with a cavalcade of chucklefucks following the Beacon it lights off momentarily.
But if we can foolproof a plan to take out a Horseman, we are probably already far past the point of needing to worry about it.
Do SLAs get negated by Spellbane? If so, that's the obvious solution. Of course we'd have to watch out for the Horsemen potentially getting extra "benefits".Actually, I don't that it would be that difficult to make the Snare into a complete death trap for one of the Horsemen if they were stupid enough to show up, assuming of course that we know it's coming and have a bit of prep time. Some fairly extensive prep work would need to be done ahead of time, but with that ready all we would only need would be a few rounds to get set up. As long as we successfully negate their 1/Day Wish SLA, they wouldn't be able to escape.
Wasn't there a spell that worked similar to Spellbane but affected an area? If only Wish needs to be blocked, we should be able to find a solution. Worst case, cast Spellbane on a sturdy undead that is just out of reach of the Horseman, but still close enough to affect him.Actually, I don't that it would be that difficult to make the Snare into a complete death trap for one of the Horsemen if they were stupid enough to show up, assuming of course that we know it's coming and have a bit of prep time. Some fairly extensive prep work would need to be done ahead of time, but with that ready all we would only need would be a few rounds to get set up. As long as we successfully negate their 1/Day Wish SLA, they wouldn't be able to escape.
Or we could take our time over the next month in order to pile up even more HD for a sacrifice, one which would probably require a major action there would be so many captured Demons needing to be killed.@Azel @egoo
Suggestions for the coming ritual:
1. Instead of one day of perpetual summoning, make it two days. Instead of 5,772 HD we have 11,544 HD and quite literally double the options.
2. Gods involved in here would be:
- The Old Gods of Forest, Stream, and Stone -- The ones who lead the ritual since it was theirs to begin with, and because Bloodraven is just as unenthusiastic about this Feywild plan as we are
- The Merling King -- Take advantage of that Death Domain
- Yss the Timeless Serpent -- Take advantage of that Death Domain, possibly mix his venom in there somehow
- R'hllor the Red, Lord of Light -- Take advantage of that Fire Domain
- See if we can bargain further to have his strongest heralds fight at our side against the Court of Stars, which honestly he should agree to given the scale of the sacrifice
- Moonsinger Goddess -- This one is only potentially, but we can sacrifice items to her and take advantage of her Freedom Domain after explaining the Feywild plan to her and why it absolutely sucks for every poor human schmuck stuck in the Reach. I was thinking of getting her to smite the connection between the Court of Stars and the Kingdom of the Reach as hard as possible. It wouldn't need to break the connection even, just weaken it enough that the rest of the above ritual is more effective against the Fey. Arguably this has the greatest potential for fucking with the Court of Stars' plans, which is enough for me to seriously give it consideration.
If we craft an item of Lesser Planar Binding, we can set up a system to Summon approximately 3,000 Brimorak Demons per month.I think it's time that we craft an item which casts Lesser Planar Binding.
It would not be particularly effective against anything but Imps, Quasits, Lemures, and similarly pathetic lesser Outsiders due to the minimal caster level and save DC, but it could be activated every 10 minutes, non-stop, 24/7. The time in between uses could be used to subdue the Summoned Larder bait. We could staff it with Heralds and Glass Golems, various support personnel, and Irony.
Looking at the limitations of Lesser Planar Binding, namely that it can Summon one Outsider of 6 HD or less, I think our best targets would either be Brimorak Demons or Bearded Devils. Each of them are 6 HD and only have a Will save bonus of +3.
With a saving throw DC of 17 vs the normal +3 Will save bonus of Brimoraks and Bearded Devils, about 70% of attempts should succeed. At 70% effectiveness, working 24/7, about 100 of 144 uses per day would be successful, or 3,000 per month. That would equate to approximately 18,000 HD per month without needing to use time from Viserys or any Companions.
You don't link the proper artwork.
We also need to power R'hlor's Ymeri-killing.1. Instead of one day of perpetual summoning, make it two days. Instead of 5,772 HD we have 11,544 HD and quite literally double the options.