I'd say that given that you are mixing both dragonfire and the fundamental stuff of law in them would enact changes too profound for simple reincarnation to undo.
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I'd say that given that you are mixing both dragonfire and the fundamental stuff of law in them would enact changes too profound for simple reincarnation to undo.
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Why couldn't they live with their augmentations in times of peace? It's not like we're implanting them with artificial battle-lust or anything. And losing mental stat increases you've lived with for years sounds like it would suck.
I don't understand why we can't treat them like any other soldiers, basically. A vote on their position in the Legion's hierarchies and on the way we select new members makes sense, but a vote on their retirement? I don't get it.
I don't understand why we can't treat them like any other soldiers, basically. A vote on their position in the Legion's hierarchies and on the way we select new members makes sense, but a vote on their retirement? I don't get it.
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They're meant to be both the royal guard and our super soldiers, able to actually challenge the soldiery of the great Planar Empires. The high level champions would probably still need to be handled by the Imperium's PCs, but damn near everything else they'd be able to handle.
This level of dedication and service is worth a hefty reward, imo. They should get a big retirement bonus and a sizable stipend, and maybe some land to settle down on or to do with whatever they please.
I don't see a reason they can't just live as they are either. As for the retirement vote, I guess @DragonParadox is asking if we want to do anything more than what the standard Legionnaires are offered.
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They can of course, I was just talking about what their retirement plan is. The legion for instance gets one land when mustering out.
Yes. given these are the people who would be on the front lines of fighting major demons and similar I assumed they would be getting more
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[X] Plan Angels of Death
-[X] Recruitment
--[X] Draw people with a known an good service record, either to Imperial institutions such as the Legion, the Navy, the Lawmen, the Inquisition and so on, or who have served with distinction in friendly services, such as renowned knights, former Silver Eye investigators, and so on.
--[X] All candidates will be vetted by divination and selected for loyalty to you, obedience to orders and general strength of character. They don't have to be moral, but you must be sure that they will obey and can withstand temptations.
-[X] Organization
--[X] For the time being, all Praetori will be organized in the Praetorian Guard, a unit that will use the general organization and command structure of a Legion Infantry Batallion.
--[X] You will draw small numbers of Praetori from this unit for specific missions for now.
--[X] Later on, when their number has grown somewhat and you have a clearer mission profile, you will set up new units for the Praetori, with the Praetorian Guard likely becoming the official guards of the Imperial Palace.
-[X] Service and Retirement
--[X] Standard service length for a Praetori are 10 years, with the option to repeatedly extend the contract for 5 years each.
--[X] Upon retirement, they receive a land or money grant like Legionaries, with these grants being paid to next of kin if they are killed beyond your ability to recall them during their duties.
-[X] Recruitment
--[X] Draw people with a known an good service record, either to Imperial institutions such as the Legion, the Navy, the Lawmen, the Inquisition and so on, or who have served with distinction in friendly services, such as renowned knights, former Silver Eye investigators, and so on.
--[X] All candidates will be vetted by divination and selected for loyalty to you, obedience to orders and general strength of character. They don't have to be moral, but you must be sure that they will obey and can withstand temptations.
-[X] Organization
--[X] For the time being, all Praetori will be organized in the Praetorian Guard, a unit that will use the general organization and command structure of a Legion Infantry Batallion.
--[X] You will draw small numbers of Praetori from this unit for specific missions for now.
--[X] Later on, when their number has grown somewhat and you have a clearer mission profile, you will set up new units for the Praetori, with the Praetorian Guard likely becoming the official guards of the Imperial Palace.
-[X] Service and Retirement
--[X] Standard service length for a Praetori are 10 years, with the option to repeatedly extend the contract for 5 years each.
--[X] Upon retirement, they receive a land or money grant like Legionaries, with these grants being paid to next of kin if they are killed beyond your ability to recall them during their duties.
enigma1995
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More in quantity, but not in kind. Their land grants would be bigger, just as their salary would be. If I had to peg a number on it, I'd say 15 IM a month, which is five times what a Legionnaire gets and three times what a master artisan makes.
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Death.
Remember, in 40k you have to be GRIM and DARK. We prefer offering some actual hope, so there's got to be a retirement plan on the books even if we expect them all to get soulkilled during the Long Night.
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Crake
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And rarely, some of them would be as big as the Mountain... again, while not wearing any armor, and likely bigger than him while wearing it.
It's funny to think about how our Praetorians form a palace guard unit filled with men only a foot shy of Gregor Clegane's size... when not wearing Construct Armor. In which case they would match his profile.
And rarely, some of them would be as big as the Mountain... again, while not wearing any armor, and likely bigger than him while wearing it.
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[X] Azel
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- Germany
I still maintain that Sandor would make a good
Clegane Bowl would be amazing. 👌
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Once we get the Imperial Afterlife set up, we'll probably be able to craft Praetorian souls into far more powerful Imperial Outsiders.
The basis of this idea is that for the purposes of soul-crafting it only makes sense that a soul can be used up to the max CR of what the person was in life. A regular Legionnaire would be a standard baseline, the Praetorians would be multiple cuts above.
Of course, in addition to Imperial Outsiders, we should get the Imperial Deities to provide reinforcements of their own to the Imperial Afterlife. After all, the general idea is that the Imperial Afterlife is either a permanent home for deceased citizens or just a guarded stopping point until they're gathered by a representative of whatever Imperial Deity happens to claim them. The gods benefit from this, it's perfectly fair to expect them to help protect it. Honestly it benefits them so much we probably won't even have to bargain to get their agreement, they'd just do it.
The basis of this idea is that for the purposes of soul-crafting it only makes sense that a soul can be used up to the max CR of what the person was in life. A regular Legionnaire would be a standard baseline, the Praetorians would be multiple cuts above.
Of course, in addition to Imperial Outsiders, we should get the Imperial Deities to provide reinforcements of their own to the Imperial Afterlife. After all, the general idea is that the Imperial Afterlife is either a permanent home for deceased citizens or just a guarded stopping point until they're gathered by a representative of whatever Imperial Deity happens to claim them. The gods benefit from this, it's perfectly fair to expect them to help protect it. Honestly it benefits them so much we probably won't even have to bargain to get their agreement, they'd just do it.
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Considering that the basic setup will be that we found a full pantheon, thus allowing the imperial deities to sip from that sweet, sweet divine juice? Yeah. They will definitely help. None of our inner-circle gods would pass up such a mutually beneficial transaction.
Crake
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Most unexpected team-up in aeons!
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What about recruiting from the Griffon Knights, @Azel? They've already been heavily vetted and are loyal to us. As a prestigious unit of aerial knights, they would also make a great advertisement for the Praetorian Guard. Courageous knights in shining armor on flying Griffon steeds is already impressive, but when those knights are also super soldiers, well, that's downright awe-inspiring.
They're already very well equipped, too.
What about recruiting from the Griffon Knights, @Azel? They've already been heavily vetted and are loyal to us. As a prestigious unit of aerial knights, they would also make a great advertisement for the Praetorian Guard. Courageous knights in shining armor on flying Griffon steeds is already impressive, but when those knights are also super soldiers, well, that's downright awe-inspiring.
They're already very well equipped, too.
Ring of Protection from Evil
Handy Haversack
Healing Belt
Amulet of Tears
Quiver of Abundant Ammunition
Griffon Knight Signet (3/Day Ring of Arming effect, 3/Day Feather Fall, 3/Day Prestidigitation, 2/Day Endure Elements, 1/Day Clarion Call)
Launcher
Reinforced Segmented Mithral Fullplate (+1)
Large Mithral Shield (+1)
Valyrian Steel Lance, Collapsible (+2)
Valyrian Steel Thinblade (+2)
Composite Longbow (+1)
Warlord's Saddle (usable 3/Day) - Used w/Reinforced Segmented Mithral Breastplate (+1) for the Griffon mount
Handy Haversack
Healing Belt
Amulet of Tears
Quiver of Abundant Ammunition
Griffon Knight Signet (3/Day Ring of Arming effect, 3/Day Feather Fall, 3/Day Prestidigitation, 2/Day Endure Elements, 1/Day Clarion Call)
Launcher
Reinforced Segmented Mithral Fullplate (+1)
Large Mithral Shield (+1)
Valyrian Steel Lance, Collapsible (+2)
Valyrian Steel Thinblade (+2)
Composite Longbow (+1)
Warlord's Saddle (usable 3/Day) - Used w/Reinforced Segmented Mithral Breastplate (+1) for the Griffon mount
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The list wasn't meant to be exhaustive. I'd also recruit mages from the Scholarium, concept clerics who work as healers and so on and so forth. The core requirement is that you have some group we trust that we can mine for recommendations and that you pass the general background checks.
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If a Griffin Knight is selected we could beef up the Griffin as well. 🤔
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I just thought of an interesting tactic Praetorian Griffon Knights would be particularly well suited to employ.
With Feather Fall from their Signets, they could leap from the backs of their Griffon mounts and plummet like meteors, arresting their falls right before hitting the ground. It would be an impressive visual display when showing off is called for, but it would also be an effective method to assault an enemy position, especially if done under the cover of night. And as if 10 or 12 Praetorians murdering every enemy in sight isn't enough, their riderless Griffons can then find their own targets, using their wind attacks and claws to full effect.
Not exactly Space Marine drop pods, but it's close enough for medieval purposes.