How do we go about undoing what Ashford's done? This really isn't a good sign.
The answer is as myriad and varied as the Fey and their schemes.

Necron pylons. Extensive wards. Sympathetic curses.

These are band-aid solutions, the Fey magic might erode, circumvent or directly attack any of them. Our only real option is to... *cringe*

Negotiate.
 
How do we go about undoing what Ashford's done? This really isn't a good sign.
How ever it needs to be undone, now really isn't the time to do it. We need to be king of Westeros, in both name and fact, before we seek to undo the effect. There is narrative weight to being the crowned lord of the land, and that's important when it comes to the Fey and their power, especially in this situation.
 
The answer is as myriad and varied as the Fey and their schemes.

Necron pylons. Extensive wards. Sympathetic curses.

These are band-aid solutions, the Fey magic might erode, circumvent or directly attack any of them. Our only real option is to... *cringe*

Negotiate.
Speak softly and carry a few nukes in your sleeve.

It bears remembering that we have a lot of places where planes leak into the Prime Material, so researching Pylons should definitely still be done, even if we somehow can get the CoS to fall in line without having to feed half of them through the Flesh Forges.
 
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The answer is as myriad and varied as the Fey and their schemes.

Necron pylons. Extensive wards. Sympathetic curses.

These are band-aid solutions, the Fey magic might erode, circumvent or directly attack any of them. Our only real option is to... *cringe*

Negotiate.
We were going to aggressively negotiate with the Court of Stars anyway.

We're also going to need to be more proactive about making sure various other lords don't make deals like this.

Somehow it never occurred to me we'd find someone worse than the Tyrells in regards to making these sorts of bargains.
 
We were going to aggressively negotiate with the Court of Stars anyway.

We're also going to need to be more proactive about making sure various other lords don't make deals like this.

Somehow it never occurred to me we'd find someone worse than the Tyrells in regards to making these sorts of bargains.

It was inevitable that someone would be this deeply tricked. Unfortunately, it had to be someone who I didn't hate completely. Hopefully the Court of Stars aren't going to be total tools about this because otherwise conquest is a narrative we can introduce to them also.
 
We were going to aggressively negotiate with the Court of Stars anyway.

We're also going to need to be more proactive about making sure various other lords don't make deals like this.

Somehow it never occurred to me we'd find someone worse than the Tyrells in regards to making these sorts of bargains.
i mean from his perspective this isn't that bad a deal if you think about it, his lands and people are protected from fiends and abarations and the fey get a place for themselves where they are more powerfull which wouldn't be that bad if they are on your side in a conflict. the problem is that they are going to inflic nerative on the people living there which is a very abstarct danger in and of itself
 
i mean from his perspective this isn't that bad a deal if you think about it, his lands and people are protected from fiends and abarations and the fey get a place for themselves where they are more powerfull which wouldn't be that bad if they are on your side in a conflict. the problem is that they are going to inflic nerative on the people living there which is a very abstarct danger in and of itself
From his perspective I imagine it looked like a great deal.

From ours, it means the Court of Star's grip on the Reach just grew a hell of a lot tighter, and their hold over our citizens became quite a bit more real.
 
There is a difference between them being useful citizens and this



It seems, at least to me, that they decided to rip a piece of the feywild and place it here in the Material Plane and since their plans do include pulling the Reach into the feywild I am not so comfortable with this. I guess the proper term is wards and magic to purify this situation.

It's unlikely to be anything so comprehensive. Viserys and company would have noticed instantly

Would he have agreed if it was the only option to defend his people? Selling their minds to the Fey? Maybe. Being alive might be better than being eaten body and soul, if there were no other options.

It's deceitful. There were other options. People trust us now, but it's like we have to dig them all out of the hole they dug themselves based on lies, considering we offer protection from threats as a base level part of the feudal contract, and not protection scaling based on what we extract from the relationship, but full and total, complete and comprehensive, something the Fey likely do not.

True, but it's clear Ashford does not see it as mind control
 
It's unlikely to be anything so comprehensive. Viserys and company would have noticed instantly



True, but it's clear Ashford does not see it as mind control
The question then is whether Ashford sees an entire kingdom forever stuck as some play of the Reach according to Fey whims as mind control or no.
 
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  • [X] Ask what other lords made this pact
    [X] Carefully ask who else made a pact such as this, who on the Fey side is offering them and what the price might be. This ward sounds rather useful and you would like to subscribe to his newsletter.
 
all this talk of fey bullshit really makes me want to see the feywild reflection of SD. that would probebly be quite the interesting experiance
 
Far Realm leakage is one of those things that will quite definitely kill humans dead though.

Well it depends on your definition of human, I'm sure some beings that were once human would survive.

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Ideally I'd like to scoop up the Reach lords in a meeting as soon as we can manage and explain to them in detail why it's not in the best interest of them or their people to buy into the perpetual Fey Play version of the Reach. These deals were obviously made either in ignorance or from a lack of other options.
 
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