Update edited. You guys should probably go back and and read it before voting. It's practically doubled in length and goes more into detail about Ashford's dealings with the fey.
 
Yes, yes. *waves it away*

I'm not super attached since I've committed no mental energy into envisioning what we'll be having him do, only in securing his cooperation in our schemes.
 
"As I am lord of Ashford, acknowledged by high and low so might by fey magic this truth be turned to wards against any who would subvert me or taint the land, ramparts of sorcery to match those of stone," he explains. "It is more difficult for dark things to make themselves at home in my land, fiends and monsters, Deep Ones from their stagnant halls."

"More difficult how?" you ask intrigued. Fey magic is not lightly imitated with mortal enchantment, but that does not mean it is impossible as Lya's ward-crafting proved.

"They stand out more, make mistakes they otherwise would not, the good sense of the smallfolk and the courage of armsmen driving them out with steel and blood. I have seen it work just as the fey promised time and again and I am well content," the young lord replies with conviction.

"And the price?" Dany questions a moment before you can do the same.

"The fey are more at home here, not just in the keep but all Ashford lands, their magic brighter and their craft more enduring. More of my people have taken on House spirits and the sprite kin drink from bowls of milk left by the porch." Pausing a moment he adds. "I had been worried about what the Faith would say of the arangement in the fullness of time, but the conclave laid my fears to rest."
So his land is already partially into the high-fantasy, knightly Disneyland that all the Reach could become.
Interesting.

We should most definitly study the effect in depth.
 
@DragonParadox The way that Lord Owen framed that comment about Richard...

It sounded a lot like comments in canon about the indisputable mystique of Ser Barristan or Arthur Dayne. Has Richard achieved memetic status in Westeros finally?
 
gotta say i don't mind this deal to much, yes they are more at home here and a bit stronger but with as far as i can tell none of the storybook elements taking charge of the land
 
Honestly, I count what the Fey are doing as more monstrous than helpful. They are going to warp the minds of millions of people to make things slightly more convenient for them.

Cyclonic Torpedos can't be invented fast enough.
 
Before we go any further, I really want to know who else in the Reach has made a similar pact.

[X] Ask what other lords made this pact
 
That explains a bit about how we got away with so much.

I agree. Terrible or not we should study the FUCK out of this.
Honestly, I count what the Fey are doing as more monstrous than helpful. They are going to warp the minds of millions of people to make things slightly more convenient for them.
As opposed to our good old fashioned wholesome magical brainwashing.
 
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gotta say i don't mind this deal to much, yes they are more at home here and a bit stronger but with as far as i can tell none of the storybook elements taking charge of the land
They are. That's how this ward works. They are using narrative idiot balls to hobble others and empower their own by making them the designated heroes.

That this "ward" is covering the whole fief means we have significant contamination at our hands.
 
Honestly, I count what the Fey are doing as more monstrous than helpful. They are going to warp the minds of millions of people to make things slightly more convenient for them.

Cyclonic Torpedos can't be invented fast enough.
My full agreement. This is the shite you call an Exterminatus over.

Though I would prefer the plans for the Necron pylons. We don't have that many worlds to spare and I would rather remove the taint then glass the whole place.
 
It may be time to ask the ancient and wise Bloodraven what to do with this fey nonsense and how to push it back.
Lower priority than stopping omnicidal fey and keeping the shouty voices from throwing a fit. Easier these days--so he might have something to say but I doubt he gave it much thought.

Brynden... @DragonParadox, does not strike me as the type of person to be fundamentally okay on any level with the Fey working their magic over millions of people, or the entire continent, so he would have some kind of investment in the subject matter, though more on a macroscale of "you can't rule if you can't control" than "think of the people!"

I think on some level Brynden thinks you should care about the well-being of your subjects, just in a very Degurechaff fashion.
 
Lower priority than stopping omnicidal fey and keeping the shouty voices from throwing a fit. Easier these days--so he might have something to say but I doubt he gave it much thought.

Brynden... @DragonParadox, does not strike me as the type of person to be fundamentally okay on any level with the Fey working their magic over millions of people, or the entire continent, so he would have some kind of investment in the subject matter, though more on a macroscale of "you can't rule if you can't control" than "think of the people!"

I think on some level Brynden thinks you should care about the well-being of your subjects, just in a very Degurechaff fashion.

Pretty much, he does believe in the duty of a king to his subjects, that is after all the reason why people high and low accept to be ruled and taxed by a king. What the fey are doing is making wide ranging changes to the lives and manner of people without being the legitimate authority over them. Though the point is muddied in cases like Ashford because the lord did consent to it.
 
Lower priority than stopping omnicidal fey and keeping the shouty voices from throwing a fit. Easier these days--so he might have something to say but I doubt he gave it much thought.

Brynden... @DragonParadox, does not strike me as the type of person to be fundamentally okay on any level with the Fey working their magic over millions of people, or the entire continent, so he would have some kind of investment in the subject matter, though more on a macroscale of "you can't rule if you can't control" than "think of the people!"

I think on some level Brynden thinks you should care about the well-being of your subjects, just in a very Degurechaff fashion.
Enlightened Self-Interest.

[X] Carefully ask who else made a pact such as this, who on the Fey side is offering them and what the price might be. This ward sounds rather useful and you would like to subscribe to his newsletter.
 
So anti fey wards...are they a thing? Cause I don't feel good about parts of our future kingdom being fey...just thinking about it makes me want to throw up
 
So anti fey wards...are they a thing? Cause I don't feel good about parts of our future kingdom being fey...just thinking about it makes me want to throw up

Keep in mind a lot of your most productive and useful citizens are fey. Do you want wards against the pech that help build your slips, the bulabar designing your steam tech? The Court of Stars is a political entity, evn though people like Lord Ashford might use it and 'the fey' interchangeably.
 
Keep in mind a lot of your most productive and useful citizens are fey. Do you want wards against the pech that help build your slips, the bulabar designing your steam tech? The Court of Stars is a political entity, evn though people like Lord Ashford might use it and 'the fey' interchangeably.

There is a difference between them being useful citizens and this

"The fey are more at home here, not just in the keep but all Ashford lands, their magic brighter and their craft more enduring. More of my people have taken on House spirits and the sprite kin drink from bowls of milk left by the porch." Pausing a moment he adds. "I had been worried about what the Faith would say of the arangement in the fullness of time, but the conclave laid my fears to rest."

It seems, at least to me, that they decided to rip a piece of the feywild and place it here in the Material Plane and since their plans do include pulling the Reach into the feywild I am not so comfortable with this. I guess the proper term is wards and magic to purify this situation.
 
Keep in mind a lot of your most productive and useful citizens are fey. Do you want wards against the pech that help build your slips, the bulabar designing your steam tech? The Court of Stars is a political entity, evn though people like Lord Ashford might use it and 'the fey' interchangeably.
Could we use the crown as a focus for a CoS specific ward or curse, given proper backing from Yss or the OG? It is the symbol of their sovereignty and nationhood, so it seems as good a vector as any for specifically targeting fey connected to those elements.
 
Though the point is muddied in cases like Ashford because the lord did consent to it.
Would he have agreed if it was the only option to defend his people? Selling their minds to the Fey? Maybe. Being alive might be better than being eaten body and soul, if there were no other options.

It's deceitful. There were other options. People trust us now, but it's like we have to dig them all out of the hole they dug themselves based on lies, considering we offer protection from threats as a base level part of the feudal contract, and not protection scaling based on what we extract from the relationship, but full and total, complete and comprehensive, something the Fey likely do not.
 
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