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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Duesal said:
For the Shadow Dragon that we did kill:
1. Can we put the corpse into the Flesh Forge for Shadow Dragonhide, Shadow Dragonbone, and Shadow Dragonblood production? The Brainstealer, while an amazing capture, wasn't exactly ideal for this. Can we get our dragon material production out of this corpse? I was hoping to equip our rangers and druids as well as providing a bit of a market to our genie allies.
2. I hope it's got some juicy info for Speak with Dead. I hope we get the lair.

Speaking of which, @DragonParadox, I hope you have the loot accounted for.
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  1. I'm hesitant to make dragon-parts mass-produceable for lore and tone reasons. Having whole armies dressed in cloned dragon parts would make them lose their mystique rather badly IMO. That said you guys could maybe grow something equivalent to shadow drake leather bone etc...
  2. It's posibile
  3. I do, yes at least the crunch. I still need to get the fluff done
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
For Garin's next level, I would suggest plain Rogue. He only has five levels left, no need for a custom PrC for just 5 levels.
If you absolutely want a PrC, Shadow Thief of Amn is solid because it grants two bonus feats from a decent list, and rogues are strapped for feats.
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@Crake, @Goldfish, suggestions for Garin's levelup. Honestly I just want to stick with Rogue. If that really won't do, I'd suggest Invisible Blade. Its has an excellent capstone (endless Bluff to feint as free action, can take 10), it advances sneak attack like a rogue, and it has good skills.
It might require some Feat-providing gear crafted though, or a little retraining.
 
Tomcost said:
So, can we use that blood connection to track him somehow? Or is it too far fetched?
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I mean, if you could use the bones of ancestors to fuck over living descendants, it stands to reason you can use the children to fuck over the parents.
DragonParadox said:
  1. I'm hesitant to make dragon-parts mass-produceable for lore and tone reasons. Having whole armies dressed in cloned dragon parts would make them lose their mystique rather badly IMO. That said you guys could maybe grow something equivalent to shadow drake leather bone etc...
  2. It's posibile
  3. I do, yes at least the crunch. I still need to get the fluff done
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Aww. :( Well, what are the mechanics for Shadow Drake Leather and Bone vs a Shadow Dragon?

Regarding the Lair, I'm mainly hoping there are eggs we can loot since that's been teased at us for a while.
 
Crake said:
Regarding Garin, you wanted to put together something Mystery related, like I did? Or modify what I had to work with?
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Was actually thinking about to continuing straight Rogue for him, like Waymar is going Duskblade, and Tyene and Vee are going Mystic. I wouldn't mind advancing him in a good compatible PRC, though, like that one you came up with, if that's what y'all prefer.
 
Goldfish said:
Was actually thinking about to continuing straight Rogue for him, like Waymar is going Duskblade, and Tyene and Vee are going Mystic. I wouldn't mind advancing him in a good compatible PRC, though, like that one you came up with, if that's what y'all prefer.
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Rogue is... exceptionally not great.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
@Crake, @Goldfish, suggestions for Garin's levelup. Honestly I just want to stick with Rogue. If that really won't do, I'd suggest Invisible Blade. Its has an excellent capstone (endless Bluff to feint as free action, can take 10), it advances sneak attack like a rogue, and it has good skills.
It might require some Feat-providing gear crafted though, or a little retraining.
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I think Rogue would work well for him. He's already got a lot going for him, and Rogue would further enhance his whole build. Next level, he would get +1d6 Sneak Attack, +1 BAB, and +1 Fortitude and Will saves, plus a bunch of skill points.
 
Goldfish said:
Was actually thinking about to continuing straight Rogue for him, like Waymar is going Duskblade, and Tyene and Vee are going Mystic. I wouldn't mind advancing him in a good compatible PRC, though, like that one you came up with, if that's what y'all prefer.
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For Garin:
This baby gets him Mettle, which is always great to have: Witch Slayer – Class – D&D Tools
In general abilities and fluff it's good for his inquistion work.

Edit: And the capstone is deadly to many foes.
 
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DragonParadox said:
I'd say shadow drake leather would give a modest bonus to the hide skill in low light while Shadow dragon leather would be cheaper and more effective as a base for all sorts of glamors and illusions meant to veil the user. Not sure about the bone yet.
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Good enough for mass production purposes.

By the way, @DragonParadox, the slain Adult Shadow Dragon and the captured Ancient Nightmare Dragon both had proper gear, right?
 
DragonParadox said:
They do not unfortuently, though for different reasons. The shadow dragon was young and did not invest in gear, the nightmare dragon was used to dream-shaping any effects it wanted.
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Dragons seriously need to take their own mortality more seriously, especially when they're pitted against other dragons. Our Mind Dragons will not be having this lack of caution.
Azel said:
@Duesal, reminder here that I designed some swanky armor ages ago that just needs researching.
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Hopefully that Shadow Drake leather helps out.
 
Witch slayer is most certainly not acceptable.
It lacks skill points, which are Garin's big thing. Rogue has lots of them, which is why I am seriously considering Rogue.

Rogue makes Garin better at everything he does, without adding more clutter to his sheet.
 
Rovos said:
what arour would this be? i'm very intrigued
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Composite Armor While the matter of giving the Inquistion better tools to hunt their quarry was being addressed, others thought about the other side of the coin. Ever since the founding of the Legion, it had become apparent that the supply of metals from the Plane of Earth and the heavy use of...
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The first one, Composite Armor, would be viable for high-DEX characters and Druids.
 
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TalonofAnathrax said:
Witch slayer is most certainly not acceptable.
It lacks skill points, which are Garin's big thing. Rogue has lots of them, which is why I am seriously considering Rogue.

Rogue makes Garin better at everything he does, without adding more clutter to his sheet.
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I agree on Witch Slayer being less than ideal. Mettle is nice, or course, but it only comes at second level, and the first level ability is, well, not useless, but it's very niche.

I would prefer straight Rogue or @Crake's Shadow PRC.
 
I'm a little baffled that the main argument against another class is not wanting to "clutter the sheet more".

But it's not in me to argue the point.
 
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