That's fine, too. We've done fairly well exercising restraint so far, IMO. I only mentioned it to begin with because I like boundaries, not that we necessarily need them.
Because even conservative application of this without the social/political ramifications I suggested would be an extremely huge plus for us. We would never have a reason to search for someone with the will, ambition or destiny necessary for mastering the forces of the universe. It shoots holes in the very conceit of the quest.
There are plenty of reasons not to simply print out mages of the Fifth Circle or higher -- the need to recruit existing mages of various cultures, the problematic PR aspects of simply growing mage after mage in a Forge, etc.
This I would have zero issue with. They're not slaves or servants. If they want to go off and do their own thing then so be it, that's just a lost investment on our part and we'll try again.
I was only arguing against a hard nerf against being able to make them on their own. I have no problem with deciding not to make them. There are plenty of reasons to make said decision.
Deciding not to make them no matter the circumstances would be stupid, deciding to make them in any way that could be regarded as "not very conservative" would be dangerous, not guaranteed to work even roughly half of the time, and has long-term implications that are pure poison for our institutions right at the foundations.
There's plenty of reason not to start printing out archmages even with the capability to do so, especially in absence of guaranteed loyalty. It's one thing to decide to do so carefully and to spend time ensuring that the mages would want to stick around and work with us, but simply making them en mass is far from wise due to the amount that would inevitably break away.
Speaking of which, are we in a position to follow through with recruiting any of the archmages in the Plane of Water? What about that half-dragon lady who's trying to seduce Relath?
She wasn't interested in immigration, really. And she mostly wanted to start a relationship with Relath. As far as I'm concerned, that interaction mostly ended with us discovering she was only possibly going to become relevant later, as opposed to the mage studying cheaper constructs, who is clearly too busy unless we find something that completes his current project.
In the event that things work out here and we end up with the anvil in our possession, I get the feeling the mage studying cheaper constructs would be very very interested.
Pretty explicitly related to what that guy was researching. It's a shame we forgot back when we were talking to him.
I'm wondering if we can somehow create a Construct forgemaster using that, while retaining the bonus for everyone working in the forge so long as he's hooked up to a special overseer's apparatus. Something to discuss with @DragonParadox perhaps.
So long as we never lose that bonus I'd support it.
That's great, can you remind me how long the pod recruiting has been going on for? Is this the result of the first month of recruiting pods, or is this the result of 2 months worth of rolls?
We can summon a dozen, feed them to Yss, and ask him to make a Snake-horse with all the Nightmare's powers.
Why 10? There's only 9 pods currently part of the Gem Harvesting, so shouldn't we only make 9?
There's also the fact that they only get the template version of casting, they're not full casters, and have way less spell-slots than a full caster has.
House rules. DP gives template creatures equivalent slots to their spell level.
The Life Spark Gem has saved us so much money and crafting time since we got it. I would not want to ever lose that bonus.
Because we have nine pods now, but we're sure to get another one soon. Better to have one additional pair ready to be assigned, rather than making the Fire Whales wait for their guardians, IMO.
Not to mention that it's the IC explanation for Elemental Wyrmlings being sentient at all.
That is a good point, though before you decide to go with just 10, we should check with DP about how many months of recruitment getting these 9 pods took, I suspect this is only 1-2 months of recruiting worth of pods, so if we want to preemptively make guardians for future pods, we should make at least 15 guardian teams.
We've been bringing the Fire Whales into the harvesting scheme for months now, so the nine current ones didn't all just show up this past month. Having one extra set of guardians is understandable, IMO, but not six. More can be grown next month if necessary.
