Unless DP decides to change what I outlined for them, a Mind Dragon should reach adulthood in 16 years and have a full Draconic lifespan.
Oops, I forgot about that, still 16 maturity and over 1000 age feels a bit unbalanced. How about 120 and 1000?
Unless DP decides to change what I outlined for them, a Mind Dragon should reach adulthood in 16 years and have a full Draconic lifespan.
- Three times as long in terms of both maturity and age
- They can breed with pseudo-dragons and humanoids as they are now, additional shape-shifting might open up new avenues.
Here you say a Pseudodragon's lifespan is 300 - 350 years.Oops, I forgot about that, still 16 maturity and over 1000 age feels a bit unbalanced. How about 120 and 1000?
Three times this would be around 1050 years on the high end.Well they are dragon-kin so I would say 300-350 years on average, though particularly ancient psudodragons will often work to extend their lives even further much as True Dragons do.
Could we maybe do 60 and 1000 instead? A lot of the appeal of the Mind Dragons was that they matured so much more quickly than True Dragons. Not a huge deal, though, as it's mostly a fluff consideration.Oops, I forgot about that, still 16 maturity and over 1000 age feels a bit unbalanced. How about 120 and 1000?
It'd be helpful if we could have the names, though. I've got an infopost that explicitly covers True Dragons.
Could we maybe do 60 and 1000 instead? A lot of the appeal of the Mind Dragons was that they matured so much more quickly than True Dragons. Not a huge deal, though, as it's mostly a fluff consideration.
Cool, thanks. I've added them to my Mind Dragon page and updated the information for their Age Categories. Gonna add a short write-up to it, too.Fair enough, for the sake of cataloging names
Zavaenia - Female
Galferyx - Female
Nizuss - Male
Soallae - Male
Sure 60 to 1000 sounds fair, a little less than 3 times pseudodragon age, but faster relative maturation.
That's something that we've discussed doing before. Not using the Feywild, which is chaotic and completely untrustworthy, but via Greater Demiplanes with an increased flow of time, but we've shied away from it for various reasons. The earliest major concern was that we were afraid to attract attention from the Inevitables, but that's not longer an issue.We have a lot of stuff that would benefit from time acceleration, we should seriously consider using the feywild after some research as a hyperbolic time chamber.
We can divine the Faywilds time acceleration rates in places and use that to rapidly age things like dragons or steel blooded calves which takes like 1 year to mature. For crafting, we can use a more stable demiplane. It would benefit us a lot, we are still buying tons of stuff which we could get cheaper if we made it ourselves. Same for our alchemy factory and scholarim, we can speed up the leveling rate till 5 using demiplane.That's something that we've discussed doing before. Not using the Feywild, which is chaotic and completely untrustworthy, but via Greater Demiplanes with an increased flow of time, but we've shied away from it for various reasons. The earliest major concern was that we were afraid to attract attention from the Inevitables, but that's not longer an issue.
While I would like to put all of our crafters into a large time-accelerated Greater Demiplane to double their rate of production, we're already producing stuff very quickly, so I wouldn't mind if DP just outright said it was impossible.
We're planning on getting Lya's understanding of Runecrafting maxed before putting massive enchantments on the Shadow Tower. Wards, teaching aids, the works. Time acceleration is probably going to be one of the most requested effects.We can divine the Faywilds time acceleration rates in places and use that to rapidly age things like dragons or steel blooded calves which takes like 1 year to mature. For crafting, we can use a more stable demiplane. It would benefit us a lot, we are still buying tons of stuff which we could get cheaper if we made it ourselves. Same for our alchemy factory and scholarim, we can speed up the leveling rate till 5 using demiplane.
Actually why haven't we added time acceleration to out shadow tower, wouldn't it just just take some money for casting that spell?
Temporal acceleration in the Feywild is directly controlled by immensely powerful beings which call that Plane home. It's not a natural phenomenon we can predict like the weather. If we're going to use it at all, we will be doing so in a controlled manner.We can divine the Faywilds time acceleration rates in places and use that to rapidly age things like dragons or steel blooded calves which takes like 1 year to mature. For crafting, we can use a more stable demiplane. It would benefit us a lot, we are still buying tons of stuff which we could get cheaper if we made it ourselves. Same for our alchemy factory and scholarim, we can speed up the leveling rate till 5 using demiplane.
Actually why haven't we added time acceleration to out shadow tower, wouldn't it just just take some money for casting that spell?
Like I said above, I really don't want to use temporal acceleration in the Shadow Tower. Students level up there fast enough that doubling the speed wouldn't be that helpful, IMO. It would also age our instructors prematurely.We're planning on getting Lya's understanding of Runecrafting maxed before putting massive enchantments on the Shadow Tower. Wards, teaching aids, the works. Time acceleration is probably going to be one of the most requested effects.
I don't care either way. The only thing I'm hellbent on for the Shadow Tower is the ultimate defense wards through a culmination of all the lore we receive from the Old Gods, other allied gods, the genies, and Darleth the Delver.Like I said above, I really don't want to use temporal acceleration in the Shadow Tower. Students level up there fast enough that doubling the speed wouldn't be that helpful, IMO. It would also age our instructors prematurely.
It's one thing for most of our crafters, who are predominantly ageless Genies, but another entirely for Humans with finite lifespans barring the use of magic like Reincarnation.
Honestly, the more I think about it the more I hope it's just not a possibility in this setting. When I used to advocate for it, we were very short on crafters and the time for them to work, but that is far from the case now.
We still buy millions worth of crafting because we don't have enough crafters to make stuff on our own. All the issues you talk about can be solved easily by separating the crafting area in a different demiplane than the shadow tower. Even then 2x aging is negligible for the number of years a student studies at the tower.Honestly, the more I think about it the more I hope it's just not a possibility in this setting. When I used to advocate for it, we were very short on crafters and the time for them to work, but that is far from the case now.
The faywild has been doing it since forever ago and they are just fine.I don't know if exploiting time acceleration is a good idea. I'm going to assume that the inevitables weren't made entirely because Lawful Neutral spirits are sort of OCD about shenanigans. The contract ones were probably a LN thing, but the ones protecting planar boarders and stopping time abuse might have been trying to avoid the magical version of environmental damage.
It just occurred to me that we can completely bypass the dangers of aging. A lot of our more powerful crafters use Dedicated Wrights for crafting while they go off and do other things. Dedicated Wrights have no lifespan and are effectively immortal.We still buy millions worth of crafting because we don't have enough crafters to make stuff on our own. All the issues you talk about can be solved easily by separating the crafting area in a different demiplane than the shadow tower. Even then 2x aging is negligible.
Thats a pretty good idea. I would really rather we use this than not seeing as our enemies already are(Faywild).It just occurred to me that we can completely bypass the dangers of aging. A lot of our more powerful crafters use Dedicated Wrights for crafting while they go off and do other things. Dedicated Wrights have no lifespan and are effectively immortal.
Granted this would need to be in its own Greater Demiplane instead of in the Shadow Tower, but it's certainly doable.Thats a pretty good idea. I would really rather we use this than not seeing as our enemies already are(Faywild).
Volcanic activity is natural too, and it can have some fun environmental effects. I also wouldn't call the feywild "fine", for all we know the reason time is so naturally screwy there is because so many powerful fey have been playing with it for eons.We still buy millions worth of crafting because we don't have enough crafters to make stuff on our own. All the issues you talk about can be solved easily by separating the crafting area in a different demiplane than the shadow tower. Even then 2x aging is negligible for the number of years a student studies at the tower.
The faywild has been doing it since forever ago and they are just fine.
I don't mind if we don't time accelerate the shadow tower, 2x rate of leveling is negligible anyways as the base leveling rate slowed to a crawl after the switch to the new system. A separate plane for crafting makes sense.Granted this would need to be in its own Greater Demiplane instead of in the Shadow Tower, but it's certainly doable.
We have the spell create grater demiplane, its been researched to hell and back to create that spell, a function of that spell is time acceleration. We IC and OOC know of no negative effects of time acceleration.I'm not saying don't do it, just that we should do a bit of research first.
We really need to ramp up our recruitment of the Fey so we can start controlling parts of the Feywild.Volcanic activity is natural too, and it can have some fun environmental effects. I also wouldn't call the feywild "fine", for all we know the reason time is so naturally screwy there is because so many powerful fey have been playing with it for eons.
I'm not saying don't do it, just that we should do a bit of research first.
Well, that's true but its not really relevant right? Demiplanes exist outside the plane and are only connected to it. The faywild is bleeding into our plane, volaria is bent into other planes, we have examples of a far greater disturbances which have stood causing no planar problems for thousands of years, I don't see how a handful of small time accelerated demiplanes could cause any harm. But sure if you are really convinced they are somehow harmful we can do a small RA to confirm that they are safe after we build them.Edit: a more specific concern is that the PoB is explicitly a fulcrum that the rest of the planes lean on to at least some degree. Asmodeus and the Void both have an end game that requires exploiting this fact. We should check that industrial time manipulation via demiplanes hooked directly to it won't do something unpleasant.
Recruiting a few more courts would not go amiss.We really need to ramp up our recruitment of the Fey so we can start controlling parts of the Feywild.
Minor courts and wildfae would be easiest, but the Goldenwood Court said to be ruled by an ancient dryad guarding a major Feywild entrance would be the big target here. Essos is way easier since due to the various things in Essos' history (Bloodstone Emperor, Red Dragon Empire, Valyrian Freehold) proper courts haven't formed yet.
I'm not trying to be paranoid about the issue, it's just that this is one of eleven tasks that some very powerful and ancient beings thought was worth throwing infinite killbots at. Infinite killbots that they didn't use for any number of more personally beneficial tasks.Well, that's true but its not really relevant right? Demiplanes exist outside the plane and are only connected to it. The faywild is bleeding into our plane, volaria is bent into other planes, we have examples of a far greater disturbances which have stood causing no planar problems for thousands of years, I don't see how a handful of small time accelerated demiplanes could cause any harm. But sure if you are really convinced they are somehow harmful we can do a small RA to confirm that they are safe after we build them.
Recruiting a few more courts would not go amiss.