1. Three times as long in terms of both maturity and age
  2. They can breed with pseudo-dragons and humanoids as they are now, additional shape-shifting might open up new avenues.
Oops, I forgot about that, still 16 maturity and over 1000 age feels a bit unbalanced. How about 120 and 1000?
Here you say a Pseudodragon's lifespan is 300 - 350 years.
Well they are dragon-kin so I would say 300-350 years on average, though particularly ancient psudodragons will often work to extend their lives even further much as True Dragons do.
Three times this would be around 1050 years on the high end.
 
Oops, I forgot about that, still 16 maturity and over 1000 age feels a bit unbalanced. How about 120 and 1000?
Could we maybe do 60 and 1000 instead? A lot of the appeal of the Mind Dragons was that they matured so much more quickly than True Dragons. Not a huge deal, though, as it's mostly a fluff consideration.
 
It'd be helpful if we could have the names, though. I've got an infopost that explicitly covers True Dragons.

Fair enough, for the sake of cataloging names
Zavaenia - Female
Galferyx - Female
Nizuss - Male
Soallae - Male

Could we maybe do 60 and 1000 instead? A lot of the appeal of the Mind Dragons was that they matured so much more quickly than True Dragons. Not a huge deal, though, as it's mostly a fluff consideration.

Sure 60 to 1000 sounds fair, a little less than 3 times pseudodragon age, but faster relative maturation.
 
Fair enough, for the sake of cataloging names
Zavaenia - Female
Galferyx - Female
Nizuss - Male
Soallae - Male

Sure 60 to 1000 sounds fair, a little less than 3 times pseudodragon age, but faster relative maturation.
Cool, thanks. I've added them to my Mind Dragon page and updated the information for their Age Categories. Gonna add a short write-up to it, too.
 
We have a lot of stuff that would benefit from time acceleration, we should seriously consider using the feywild after some research as a hyperbolic time chamber.
 
We have a lot of stuff that would benefit from time acceleration, we should seriously consider using the feywild after some research as a hyperbolic time chamber.
That's something that we've discussed doing before. Not using the Feywild, which is chaotic and completely untrustworthy, but via Greater Demiplanes with an increased flow of time, but we've shied away from it for various reasons. The earliest major concern was that we were afraid to attract attention from the Inevitables, but that's not longer an issue.

While I would like to put all of our crafters into a large time-accelerated Greater Demiplane to double their rate of production, we're already producing stuff very quickly, so I wouldn't mind if DP just outright said it was impossible.
 
That's something that we've discussed doing before. Not using the Feywild, which is chaotic and completely untrustworthy, but via Greater Demiplanes with an increased flow of time, but we've shied away from it for various reasons. The earliest major concern was that we were afraid to attract attention from the Inevitables, but that's not longer an issue.

While I would like to put all of our crafters into a large time-accelerated Greater Demiplane to double their rate of production, we're already producing stuff very quickly, so I wouldn't mind if DP just outright said it was impossible.
We can divine the Faywilds time acceleration rates in places and use that to rapidly age things like dragons or steel blooded calves which takes like 1 year to mature. For crafting, we can use a more stable demiplane. It would benefit us a lot, we are still buying tons of stuff which we could get cheaper if we made it ourselves. Same for our alchemy factory and scholarim, we can speed up the leveling rate till 5 using demiplane.

Actually why haven't we added time acceleration to out shadow tower, wouldn't it just just take some money for casting that spell?
 
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We can divine the Faywilds time acceleration rates in places and use that to rapidly age things like dragons or steel blooded calves which takes like 1 year to mature. For crafting, we can use a more stable demiplane. It would benefit us a lot, we are still buying tons of stuff which we could get cheaper if we made it ourselves. Same for our alchemy factory and scholarim, we can speed up the leveling rate till 5 using demiplane.

Actually why haven't we added time acceleration to out shadow tower, wouldn't it just just take some money for casting that spell?
We're planning on getting Lya's understanding of Runecrafting maxed before putting massive enchantments on the Shadow Tower. Wards, teaching aids, the works. Time acceleration is probably going to be one of the most requested effects.
 
We can divine the Faywilds time acceleration rates in places and use that to rapidly age things like dragons or steel blooded calves which takes like 1 year to mature. For crafting, we can use a more stable demiplane. It would benefit us a lot, we are still buying tons of stuff which we could get cheaper if we made it ourselves. Same for our alchemy factory and scholarim, we can speed up the leveling rate till 5 using demiplane.

Actually why haven't we added time acceleration to out shadow tower, wouldn't it just just take some money for casting that spell?
Temporal acceleration in the Feywild is directly controlled by immensely powerful beings which call that Plane home. It's not a natural phenomenon we can predict like the weather. If we're going to use it at all, we will be doing so in a controlled manner.

I'm against using it in the Shadow Tower, BTW. Yes, students might level up more quickly, but they would also age that much faster, and our instructors, who are there much longer than any Initiate, would basically see their lifespans cut in half, or worse.

DP has already ruled that using temporal acceleration to rapidly age creatures who grow more powerful with age is a double-edged sword, allowing their bodies to mature more quickly but keeping their minds undeveloped.
 
We're planning on getting Lya's understanding of Runecrafting maxed before putting massive enchantments on the Shadow Tower. Wards, teaching aids, the works. Time acceleration is probably going to be one of the most requested effects.
Like I said above, I really don't want to use temporal acceleration in the Shadow Tower. Students level up there fast enough that doubling the speed wouldn't be that helpful, IMO. It would also age our instructors prematurely.

It's one thing for most of our crafters, who are predominantly ageless Genies, but another entirely for Humans with finite lifespans barring the use of magic like Reincarnation.

Honestly, the more I think about it the more I hope it's just not a possibility in this setting. When I used to advocate for it, we were very short on crafters and the time for them to work, but that is far from the case now.
 
I don't know if exploiting time acceleration is a good idea. I'm going to assume that the inevitables weren't made entirely because Lawful Neutral spirits are sort of OCD about shenanigans. The contract ones were probably a LN thing, but the ones protecting planar boarders and stopping time abuse might have been trying to avoid the magical version of environmental damage.

Lets not start dumping the magical version of industrial byproducts into the air just because the planar!EPA got systematically assassinated by the void.
 
Like I said above, I really don't want to use temporal acceleration in the Shadow Tower. Students level up there fast enough that doubling the speed wouldn't be that helpful, IMO. It would also age our instructors prematurely.

It's one thing for most of our crafters, who are predominantly ageless Genies, but another entirely for Humans with finite lifespans barring the use of magic like Reincarnation.

Honestly, the more I think about it the more I hope it's just not a possibility in this setting. When I used to advocate for it, we were very short on crafters and the time for them to work, but that is far from the case now.
I don't care either way. The only thing I'm hellbent on for the Shadow Tower is the ultimate defense wards through a culmination of all the lore we receive from the Old Gods, other allied gods, the genies, and Darleth the Delver.

I wouldn't mind if DP bans time acceleration for us.
 
Honestly, the more I think about it the more I hope it's just not a possibility in this setting. When I used to advocate for it, we were very short on crafters and the time for them to work, but that is far from the case now.
We still buy millions worth of crafting because we don't have enough crafters to make stuff on our own. All the issues you talk about can be solved easily by separating the crafting area in a different demiplane than the shadow tower. Even then 2x aging is negligible for the number of years a student studies at the tower.

I don't know if exploiting time acceleration is a good idea. I'm going to assume that the inevitables weren't made entirely because Lawful Neutral spirits are sort of OCD about shenanigans. The contract ones were probably a LN thing, but the ones protecting planar boarders and stopping time abuse might have been trying to avoid the magical version of environmental damage.
The faywild has been doing it since forever ago and they are just fine.
 
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We still buy millions worth of crafting because we don't have enough crafters to make stuff on our own. All the issues you talk about can be solved easily by separating the crafting area in a different demiplane than the shadow tower. Even then 2x aging is negligible.
It just occurred to me that we can completely bypass the dangers of aging. A lot of our more powerful crafters use Dedicated Wrights for crafting while they go off and do other things. Dedicated Wrights have no lifespan and are effectively immortal.
 
It just occurred to me that we can completely bypass the dangers of aging. A lot of our more powerful crafters use Dedicated Wrights for crafting while they go off and do other things. Dedicated Wrights have no lifespan and are effectively immortal.
Thats a pretty good idea. I would really rather we use this than not seeing as our enemies already are(Faywild).
 
We still buy millions worth of crafting because we don't have enough crafters to make stuff on our own. All the issues you talk about can be solved easily by separating the crafting area in a different demiplane than the shadow tower. Even then 2x aging is negligible for the number of years a student studies at the tower.


The faywild has been doing it since forever ago and they are just fine.
Volcanic activity is natural too, and it can have some fun environmental effects. I also wouldn't call the feywild "fine", for all we know the reason time is so naturally screwy there is because so many powerful fey have been playing with it for eons.

I'm not saying don't do it, just that we should do a bit of research first.

Edit: a more specific concern is that the PoB is explicitly a fulcrum that the rest of the planes lean on to at least some degree. Asmodeus and the Void both have an end game that requires exploiting this fact. We should check that industrial time manipulation via demiplanes hooked directly to it won't do something unpleasant.
 
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Granted this would need to be in its own Greater Demiplane instead of in the Shadow Tower, but it's certainly doable.
I don't mind if we don't time accelerate the shadow tower, 2x rate of leveling is negligible anyways as the base leveling rate slowed to a crawl after the switch to the new system. A separate plane for crafting makes sense.

I'm not saying don't do it, just that we should do a bit of research first.
We have the spell create grater demiplane, its been researched to hell and back to create that spell, a function of that spell is time acceleration. We IC and OOC know of no negative effects of time acceleration.
 
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Volcanic activity is natural too, and it can have some fun environmental effects. I also wouldn't call the feywild "fine", for all we know the reason time is so naturally screwy there is because so many powerful fey have been playing with it for eons.

I'm not saying don't do it, just that we should do a bit of research first.
We really need to ramp up our recruitment of the Fey so we can start controlling parts of the Feywild.
 
Edit: a more specific concern is that the PoB is explicitly a fulcrum that the rest of the planes lean on to at least some degree. Asmodeus and the Void both have an end game that requires exploiting this fact. We should check that industrial time manipulation via demiplanes hooked directly to it won't do something unpleasant.
Well, that's true but its not really relevant right? Demiplanes exist outside the plane and are only connected to it. The faywild is bleeding into our plane, volaria is bent into other planes, we have examples of a far greater disturbances which have stood causing no planar problems for thousands of years, I don't see how a handful of small time accelerated demiplanes could cause any harm. But sure if you are really convinced they are somehow harmful we can do a small RA to confirm that they are safe after we build them.

We really need to ramp up our recruitment of the Fey so we can start controlling parts of the Feywild.
Recruiting a few more courts would not go amiss.
 
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Recruiting a few more courts would not go amiss.
Minor courts and wildfae would be easiest, but the Goldenwood Court said to be ruled by an ancient dryad guarding a major Feywild entrance would be the big target here. Essos is way easier since due to the various things in Essos' history (Bloodstone Emperor, Red Dragon Empire, Valyrian Freehold) proper courts haven't formed yet.

... I wonder what courts Sothoryos and the Summer Islands have.
 
Well, that's true but its not really relevant right? Demiplanes exist outside the plane and are only connected to it. The faywild is bleeding into our plane, volaria is bent into other planes, we have examples of a far greater disturbances which have stood causing no planar problems for thousands of years, I don't see how a handful of small time accelerated demiplanes could cause any harm. But sure if you are really convinced they are somehow harmful we can do a small RA to confirm that they are safe after we build them.


Recruiting a few more courts would not go amiss.
I'm not trying to be paranoid about the issue, it's just that this is one of eleven tasks that some very powerful and ancient beings thought was worth throwing infinite killbots at. Infinite killbots that they didn't use for any number of more personally beneficial tasks.

Maybe they were wrong, or just enforcing their idea of what the world should be like because they thought it was better that way, but we should at least check first before assuming we know better.

On a number of different occasions we have had better solutions than the old ones (see almost anything the Valyrians thought was a good idea), but we need to at least think about it before making assumptions and diving in.
 
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