I thought about that, but left it for the same reason I left her Ring of Protection from Law despite giving her a Ring of Protection from Evil.

She's a Dragon Oracle with the Covetous Curse. It seemed like she might like to hang on to her stuff, even things which are somewhat obsolete for her. It also doesn't hurt to have a backup wand, despite her breath weapons and decent number of spell slots.
Well, backstory-wise she did liquidate her (small) hoard in the Feywild into a few wearable items before going into reality, so she's propably not too opposed to exchange things that are hers for things of equal value (or for money), but the wand is not really important enough to try.
If she wants to sell it she can bring it up.
 
Well, backstory-wise she did liquidate her (small) hoard in the Feywild into a few wearable items before going into reality, so she's propably not too opposed to exchange things that are hers for things of equal value (or for money), but the wand is not really important enough to try.
If she wants to sell it she can bring it up.
That was a very good investment for her. Since she came to Planetos, she's leveled up several times, made some powerful friends, and found a very generous patron Dragon.

And now she's rocking some really good gear, too.
 
Maelor is a loyal Companion who had been with us for years. Ceria is a random NPC who reluctantly swore to us, disliked us on principle because we were in power, and isn't even all that powerful.

Giving her a Dragon feels completely unjustified. She isn't politically important, she isn't powerful enough to matter on her own, and she hasn't done anything amazing enough to deserve one.

This feels like a free powerup for Crake's pet OC, not like a valid Viserys decision.
 
This feels like a free powerup for Crake's pet OC, not like a valid Viserys decision.

For what it's worth I do not feel giving Ceria a dragon is OOC or I would have said something. The fact is Maelor in in the CoB and has never expressed much desire for a dragon, sure Ceria is not close to Viserys but not every rider ever handed a dragon in history has been because the rider was personal friend with the king. She is a skilled sorceress, and strong enough to bond Maelys who served faithfully since swearing to Viserys.
 
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Maelor is a loyal Companion who had been with us for years. Ceria is a random NPC who reluctantly swore to us, disliked us on principle because we were in power, and isn't even all that powerful.

Giving her a Dragon feels completely unjustified. She isn't politically important, she isn't powerful enough to matter on her own, and she hasn't done anything amazing enough to deserve one.

This feels like a free powerup for Crake's pet OC, not like a valid Viserys decision.
The Misfits have done quite a bit for us in their time, plus Ceria is a tangible connection to the Storm God. Giving her a Dragon costs us little, while further cementing her loyalty, enhancing her capabilities, and putting another Dragon into service.

I think Maelor would prefer to raise his own Dragon, too, when the time comes. A boy and his Dragon, a tale as old as time.
 
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Maelor is a loyal Companion who had been with us for years. Ceria is a random NPC who reluctantly swore to us, disliked us on principle because we were in power, and isn't even all that powerful.

Giving her a Dragon feels completely unjustified. She isn't politically important, she isn't powerful enough to matter on her own, and she hasn't done anything amazing enough to deserve one.

This feels like a free powerup for Crake's pet OC, not like a valid Viserys decision.
I agree.
But Maelor can't properly give attention to his dragon while he's away on PoF, and he'll likely be there for a while still.

I don't like giving dragons away semi-randomly either, but in the end, it's still at least one more dragon to throw at Tiamat/Illithids.

WIth how much Dragons everyone stole from us alredy (Lannsiters have two, Mammon has 2+, Timmie had 5 or so...), we'd better keep the grow rates of that particualr force. Imo/
 
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I agree.
But Maelor can't properly give attention to his dragon while he's away on PoF, and he'll likely be there for a while still.
I don't like giving dragons away semi-randomly either, but in the end, it's still at least one more dragon to throw at Tiamat/Illithids.

WIth how much Dragons everyone stole from us alredy, we'd better keep the grow rates of that particualr force. Imo/
Why do we have to give it away now though? We can put it in stasis if needed, all it costs us is a level 9 slot from a noncombat day.
 
Interlude DCVI: Black Stone and Crimson Memories
Black Stone and Crimson Memories

Ninth Day of the Eleventh Month 293 AC

The day was dark under the shadow of the sentinel pines, the air heavy with the sweet scent of northern bedstraw flowers. It was almost enough to make Waymar forget that he was riding through lands far north of the Wall and not the trails of the Vale he had known as a boy, though one look at his companions would have been enough to put paid that notion. Besides Vee, the one he had the most in common with, among them was the wildling 'king', Mance Rayder. Beside them there was the white-scaled snake mage who flew by strength of sorcery, easily keeping up with the shaggy northern ponies, while Amrelath flew high above the clouds, after having told Mance that 'he would find his own way to the quarry', not wanting to unveil his nature while there were foes about, and foes there were aplenty.

Mist shrouded wraiths that struck at dusk, twisting the failing light into cruel phantasms to befuddle the mind and break the spirit, cruel things of twisted wood and blood soaked thorns that crawled over the forest floor to smother them in their fetid embrace, and worst of all, new-made Wights still fresh enough not to know they were dead, the poor bastards. Something was out here, something that really didn't want them looking through these hills. It was as good a sign that they were on the right track as any.

"Bet you have some tales to tell, eh boy?" the wildling asked between the crackle of dry leaves under the horses' hooves.

"What makes you say that?" the young Valemen asked, stung in spite of himself by the word 'boy'. Not that he really expected to be called a knight here. The only knights these wildlings were likely to have met were men of the Night's Watch over edged steel.

"That there is a two-headed snake-man wizard," Mance replied in such a perfect seriousness that Waymar found himself struggling against a smile.

"Maybe I just met him before coming here," the knight countered, in a much lighter tone.

"Oh aye, are there a lot..." The question cut off abruptly as a strange yowling echoed through the woods. Waymar drew his word and the wildling reached for his own bronze blade just as quickly. He'd shown himself skilled in its use, and the sword itself possessed some subtle rune magic, for the black blood of the dead would ever slide off it leaving it clean after a battle.

This time it was neither dead men nor wicked wood-spirits that barred their path, instead a half-grown shadowcat coiled in the middle of the path, hissing angrily enough to likely spook the horses if it weren't for Vee. As Waymar pulled on his reigns to let his friend deal with the beast, he noticed a patch of crimson on the grey and black fur. The beast had been wounded somehow.


Mance didn't find it strange when when Vee started talking cat even as she moved to heal the beast, Waymar noticed. He must've seen some sorcery of his own besides that sword of his, maybe he even had a mage or two among those that followed him. Before Waymar could ask him about it, however, Vee lifted her eyes from the now hale and healthy shadowcat to look at them. "I think I've found it, the quarry."

***​

No pines grew here, the soil too poor and stony even for their roots. The most you could find looking about were scaly lichen, tough weeds, and a few fragile white Fairy Bells peeking out from among the rocks. Still, it didn't seem an evil place, this hidden vale Vee's new friend had lead them to. There was no sense of watching malice like in the ruins of Hardhome and no trees for enemies to hide behind, which after the last few days of being harried through the woods was a blessing in itself.

Amrelath was waiting for them, of course, having flown ahead just enough that no one would notice a 'man' falling from the sky hard enough to shatter stone. The Valeman had to admit, no matter how prideful the dragon was he took his ruses seriously.

"That, I suspect, is the old streambed they used to send the blocks of jade down," the dragon motioned downwards. "And these are the marks of miner's tools, though still we have yet to find the jade."

It took them another half-day carefully leading their horses up increasingly steep slopes such that the poor things were starting to look at their riders reproachfully, until they finally found a limestone face with something strange running through it. Slick black veins branching out like the crown of some strange tree. The shadowcat wouldn't come near it, having set off at a loping run as soon Vee said something to it, likely seeing its debt paid. The horses were no more eager, eyes rolling in their heads, not that Waymar was of a mind to force them. Mance, on the other hand, could probably do without the protection of the herd. "Come on then, Rayder, it's just a rock," he called.

"Aye? The way those 'were' just corpses back there?" the wildling snorted. "There's something dark there, I can feel it pressing down on my shoulders." Still, in spite of the scoffing, the man stepped forward to look at the rock.

Something dripped on the stony ground, then again and again. Waymar looked down to find, to his horror, that Mance was dripping blood in small streams.

"Fuck! Vee, he's hurt!" he called.

The answer, however, proved far stranger. A bewildered Mance took off his cloak to show himself unharmed, but blood kept flowing from the red silk.

"Where did that come from?" Riz'Neth hissed, motioning to the red silk wet with fresh blood.

"The woman who patched it for me said the silk came from Asshai," Mance replied, uncertainly.

OOC: I hope all this investigating does not drag.
 
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Why do we have to give it away now though? We can put it in stasis if needed, all it costs us is a level 9 slot from a noncombat day.
It can be.
And if you want the "dragons to be more meaningful" vs "more forces to throw at our enemies immediately" you can make a vote for that and you'll have some support for sure.
I just don't feel strongly enough to swing towards either of these to do so myself.
 
That's vaguely alarming.

Also odd. Not many sanguimancers in winter I would think. What could draw blood out like that?
 
I wouldn't want anyone to vote for expediency if it wasn't necessary, so if you preferred Maelor over Ceria, please vote stasis. As Talon pointed out, the point of the run-off vote was merely to take care of a problem before it could manifest in such a way that merely involved a character who could bind a dragon.

The pool of candidates is short since we have to have some connection with them in addition to them having the ability to bind them, but beyond that it doesn't really matter.
 
Vee \lifted her eyes from the now hale and healthy shadowcat to look at them.

And so Vee was suddenly roleplaying in a MMORPG

The answer however proved far stranger, a bewildered Mance took off his claock to show himself unharmed, but blood kept flowing from the red silk.

"Where did that come from?" Riz'Neth hissed, motioning to the red silk wet with fresh blood.

"The woman who patched it for me said the silk came from Assahi," Mance replied uncertainly.

People in Asshai: "OH MY GOD I AM AN EDGELORD MASTER OF SHADOWS FEAR ME I AM SO WICKED MY CLOTHES GET TO BLEED"

They are trying too hard.
 
They say there are no children in Asshai.

They must bind their books in smooth as silk baby leather...
 
I wouldn't want anyone to vote for expediency if it wasn't necessary, so if you preferred Maelor over Ceria, please vote stasis. As Talon pointed out, the point of the run-off vote was merely to take care of a problem before it could manifest in such a way that merely involved a character who could bind a dragon.

The pool of candidates is short since we have to have some connection with them in addition to them having the ability to bind them, but beyond that it doesn't really matter.
No need. Maelor isn't available right now, so Viserys can just put it in stasis (or Imprisonment, whatever) until best apprentice returns.

I do indeed like the idea of giving it to Maelor, you know. It isn't just "Not Ceria!". I can have several motivations now.
 
No need. Maelor isn't available right now, so Viserys can just put it in stasis (or Imprisonment, whatever) until best apprentice returns.
Course, same result.

I do indeed like the idea of giving it to Maelor, you know. It isn't just "Not Ceria!". I can have several motivations now.

Hey, for what it's worth, I get it. Ordinarily I would say something like "conflict of interest" but I will point out quite reasonably, for the same reasons you haven't, that I have mostly left the characters up to DragonParadox's control. I don't tend to do anything that would contradict any plans he might have for them during turn actions, so that he has time to get his own feel for writing them. They're meant to enhance his story-telling, not be pigeonholed by canonized sidestories.

Also, because having a dragon gives more options to take Ceria story-wise, I voted for it. Because it interests me, beyond the sheer "firepower" aspect of it which is really useless to her at the moment since she can't leverage it in the places she's being sent. It's more the political and social aspects that are of interest.
 
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No idea whats happening.

In canon Mance, then a Brother of the Watch, was wounded on a ranging and got his black cloak torn. A wildling woman who also became his lover helped him get well and patched the cloak with red silk from Assahi. When Ser Denys Mallister saw the cloak he ordered Mance to get rid of it. That was the last straw for Mance who deserted and joined the Free Folk. I can't say more without spoilers.
 
Black Stone and Crimson Memories

Ninth Day of the Eleventh Month 293 AC

The day was dark under the shadow of the sentinel pines, the air heavy with the sweet scent of northern bedstraw flowers. It was almost enough to make Waymar forget that he was riding through lands far north of the Wall, not the trails of the Vale he had known as a boy, though one look at his companions would have been enough to put paid that notion. Besides Vee, the one he had the most in common with among them was the wildling 'king', Mance Rayder. Beside them, there was the white-scaled snake priest who flew by strength of sorcery, easily keeping up with the shaggy northern ponies, while Amrelath flew high above the clouds, after having told Mance that 'he would find his own way to the quarry', not wanting to unveil his nature while there were foes about, and foes there were aplenty.

Mist shrouded wraiths that struck at dusk, twisting the failing light into cruel phantasms to befuddle the mind and break the spirit, cruel things of twisted wood and blood soaked thorns that crawled over the forest floor to smother them in their fetid embrace, and worst of all, new-made wights still fresh enough not to know they were dead, the poor bastards. Something was out here, something that really didn't want them looking through these hills. It was as good a sign that they were on the right track as any.

"Bet you have some tales to tell, eh, boy?" the wildling asked between the crackle of dry leaves under the horses' hooves.

"What makes you say that?" the young valemen asked, stung in spite of himself by the word 'boy'. Not that he really expected to be called a knight here. The only knights these wildlings were likely to have met were men of the Night's Watch and that over edged steel.

"That there is a two-headed snake man wizard," Mance replied in such a perfect seriousness that Waymar found himself struggling against a smile next.

"Maybe I just met him before coming here," the knight countered, in a much lighter tone.

"Oh aye, are there a lot..." The question cut off abruptly as a strange yowling echoed through the woods. Waymar drew his word and the wildling reached for his own bronze blade just as quickly. He'd shown himself skilled in its use, and the sword itself possessed some subtle rune magic, for the black blades of the dead would ever slide off it leaving it clean after a battle.

This time it was neither dead men nor wicked wood-spirits that barred their path, instead a half-grown shadow cat coiled in the middle of the path, hissing angrily enough to likely spook the horses if it weren't for Vee. As Waymar pulled on his reigns to let his friend deal with the beast, he noticed a patch of crimson on the grey and black fur. The beast had been wounded somehow.


Mance didn't find it strange when when Vee started talking cat even as she moved to heal the beast, Waymar noticed. He must've seen some sorcery of his own besides that sword of his, maybe he even had a mage or two among those that followed him. Before Waymar could ask him about it however, Vee lifted her eyes from the now hale and healthy shadowcat to look at them. "I think I've found it, the quarry."

***​

No pines grew here, the soil too poor and stony even for their roots. The most you could find looking about were scaly lichen, tough weeds, and a few fragile white Fairy Bells peeking out from among the rocks. Still, it didn't seem an evil place, this hidden vale Vee's new friend had lead them to. There was no sense of watching malice like in the ruins of Hardhome, and no trees for enemies to hide behind, which after the last few days of being harried through the woods, was a blessing in itself.

Amrelath was waiting for them, of course, having flown ahead just enough that no one would notice a 'man' falling from the sky hard enough to shatter stone. The valeman had to admit, no matter how prideful the dragon was, he took his ruses seriously.

"That, I suspect, is the old streambed they used to end the blocks of jade down," the dragon motioned down. "And these are the marks of miner's tools, though still we have yet to find the jade."

It took them another half-day carefully leading their horses up increasingly steep slopes such that the poor things were starting to look at their riders reproachfully, until they finally found a limestone face with something strange running through it, slick black veins, branching out like the crown of some strange tree. The shadowcat wouldn't come near it, having set off at a loping run as soon Vee said something to it, likely holding its debt paid. The horses were no more eager, eyes rolling in their heads, not that Waymar was of a mind to force them. Mance, on the other hand, could probably do without the protection of her herd. "Come on then, Rayder, it's just a rock," he called.

"Aye? The way those 'were' just corpses back there?" the wildling snorted. "There's something dark there, I can feel it pressing down on my shoulders." Still, in spite of the scoffing, the man stepped forward to look at the rock.

Something dripped on the stony ground, then again and again. Waymar looked down to find, to his horror, that Mance was dripping blood in small streams.

"Fuck! Vee, he's hurt!" he called.

The answer, however, proved far stranger. A bewildered Mance took off his cloak to show himself unharmed, but blood kept flowing from the red silk.

"Where did that come from?" Riz'Neth hissed, motioning to the red silk wet with fresh blood.

"The woman who patched it for me said the silk came from Assahi," Mance replied, uncertainly.

OOC: I hope all this investigating does not drag. Not yet edited.
Here's an edited version of the chapter, @DragonParadox.

Oh shit, what the hell is Mance wearing?
 
In canon Mance, then a Brother of the Watch, was wounded on a ranging and got his black cloak torn. A wildling woman who also became his lover helped him get well and patched the cloak with red silk from Assahi. When Ser Denys Mallister saw the cloak he ordered Mance to get rid of it. That was the last straw for Mance who deserted and joined the Free Folk. I can't say more without spoilers.
Oh shit i don't remember any of that. Maybe i should reread the books.
 
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