The difference is that Amrelath is, following the analogy, the equivalent of a baby god. The only thing he needs is for time to pass him by.

Waymar would be the crazy mortal doing an ascencion ritual. It might work, it might not.

Doesn't change the fact one of them is, inherently, a god. And even the mortal crawling his way up just makes him the exception to the rule.

Huh, makes me wonder what Waymar wants after all of this? He could lead the Griffon Knights with Immortality at his beckon (heh, beak-on) or... he could strive to be an even greater existence.

Waymar, God of Heroism, Bravery, and Knighthood. A better god for Westeros than the Seven ever was and could, I reckon.
 
Huh, makes me wonder what Waymar wants after all of this? He could lead the Griffon Knights with Immortality at his beckon (heh, beak-on) or... he could strive to be an even greater existence.

Waymar, God of Heroism, Bravery, and Knighthood. A better god for Westeros than the Seven ever was and could, I reckon.
Demonstratively, the downsides are you can be shaped into a force that harms more than helps if you're a deity.

A very powerful semi-divine existence is where it's at.
 
Demonstratively, the downsides are you can be shaped into a force that harms more than helps if you're a deity.

A very powerful semi-divine existence is where it's at.

Oh? Is there such mechanisms in D&D 3.5/Pathfinder? To be Semi-Divine? Does it require you to have the favour of a god? And what else is the path?
 
The difference is that Amrelath is, following the analogy, the equivalent of a baby god. The only thing he needs is for time to pass him by.

Waymar would be the crazy mortal doing an ascencion ritual. It might work, it might not.

Doesn't change the fact one of them is, inherently, a god. And even the mortal crawling his way up just makes him the exception to the rule.

Well, I more meant Waymar was bound to gain a few more levels and probably close to his first Mythic Tier.

A Level 20/MR10 PC is basically a quasi-deity for all intents and purposes, and I would call a Level 15+ a very minor demi-god (capable of feats of legend with relative ease). You know, like all good mythology.
 
Are duels to the death legal in our law system? It's always good to give people the freedom to kill each other as long as both sides are consenting adults.
 
Are duels to the death legal in our law system? It's always good to give people the freedom to kill each other as long as both sides are consenting adults.
No.

All potentially lethal combat (accidental death and mishap) is performed in the Circle of Battle, and I think we should keep honor duels strictly regulated by keeping that the only viable place to hold the duel, giving people opportunity to back out of a match since they have to travel to get it done and probably have to do it before thousands of people, to avoid nobles trying to settle grudges by killing heirs through played up drama and face-saving measures. I say potentially, because healing magic goes a long way in preventing death.

I don't think any legal system can survive if you can sidestep around murder by forcing someone to face you or suffer ridicule that could literally make their life a living hell--Westerosi aristocracy is fucked up like that.

It also doubles as free entertainment.
 
I don't think any legal system can survive if you can sidestep around murder by forcing someone to face you or suffer ridicule that could literally make their life a living hell--Westerosi aristocracy is fucked up like that.
I do not mean duels to take place in judgments or anthing like that but honour duels where both participants agree as a way to end their feud once and for all, it would strictly happen with consenting adults and pre determated term, people should have the right to do it if they wish to.
 
Rule 4/5 - I think you know this is not the place to relitigate this decision.
So, seeing half a dozen people being threadbanned and the mods flipping their shit over someone wanting to build a biological nuke to kill Warhammer Orcs (which are sort of plant-people with literally no cultural values besides fighting, killing and looting), should we just try to make friends with the Others?

Genocide is bad, dontchanow?
 
So, seeing half a dozen people being threadbanned and the mods flipping their shit over someone wanting to build a biological nuke to kill Warhammer Orcs (which are sort of plant-people with literally no cultural values besides fighting, killing and looting), should we just try to make friends with the Others?

Genocide is bad, dontchanow?
What? That Warhammer Advisor quest again? Huh, good thing we put those WMDs on hold then?
 
I do not mean duels to take place in judgments or anthing like that but honour duels where both participants agree as a way to end their feud once and for all, it would strictly happen with consenting adults and pre determated term, people should have the right to do it if they wish to.

That's not how it works in practice.

Honour duels regularly result from one party being strong armed into an unfair situation.

If you believed in your righteousness you would let my many more years of experience and greater strength determine who is right.
 
So, seeing half a dozen people being threadbanned and the mods flipping their shit over someone wanting to build a biological nuke to kill Warhammer Orcs (which are sort of plant-people with literally no cultural values besides fighting, killing and looting), should we just try to make friends with the Others?

Genocide is bad, dontchanow?
Don't call them others! That could be taken as a racially offensive term implying they are different from the rest of us! It's like calling Skaven rats or Orcs fungus!
 
So, seeing half a dozen people being threadbanned and the mods flipping their shit over someone wanting to build a biological nuke to kill Warhammer Orcs (which are sort of plant-people with literally no cultural values besides fighting, killing and looting), should we just try to make friends with the Others?

Genocide is bad, dontchanow?

...Yeah sure and we can drink frozen margaritas while the world turns to ice and we can do a rendition of spooky scary skeletons too...

edit: I know its a joke but by god advisor quest what the actual shit?
 
That's not how it works in practice.

Honour duels regularly result from one party being strong armed into an unfair situation.

If you believed in your righteousness you would let my many more years of experience and greater strength determine who is right.
Deliste gets it, what causes Honor duels isn't two consenting and equal parties, it is one party with strength slapping the dignity and status of a rival down into the dirt, or making the attempt at it, forcing the other to press the point to save face.

In some ways it is even preferable that they die in such a contest rather than take it lying down, because at least the loss of face dies with them.

This is an injustice, thus regulating the whole affair is important, seeing as how it would be somewhat difficult to provide the martial nobility no outlet for such slights. Cynical, but prudent.
 
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That's not how it works in practice.

Honour duels regularly result from one party being strong armed into an unfair situation.

If you believed in your righteousness you would let my many more years of experience and greater strength determine who is right.
It's not about righteousness or anything like that, Honour duels were often made to take satisfaction to deep insults that resulted in mutual hatred between two parties were they consented to have a duel in a predeterminated place with witnesses and equal weapons, there's nothing wrong with that and prohibiting consenting people from doing it is tyranny.
 
So, seeing half a dozen people being threadbanned and the mods flipping their shit over someone wanting to build a biological nuke to kill Warhammer Orcs (which are sort of plant-people with literally no cultural values besides fighting, killing and looting), should we just try to make friends with the Others?

Genocide is bad, dontchanow?

...WHAT?!

What the fuck? What's this about mods threadbanning? And against WARHAMMER Orcs? WARHAMMER, mind you!! Those guys knows zilt aside frok fighting, killing, getting stronger, looting, and destroying (thank god, no raping).

It's like saying we should befriend Skavens and Chaos!!!! Seriously, WHAT THE FUCK?!
 
...WHAT?!

What the fuck? What's this about mods threadbanning? And against WARHAMMER Orcs? WARHAMMER, mind you!! Those guys knows zilt aside frok fighting, killing, getting stronger, looting, and destroying (thank god, no raping).

It's like saying we should befriend Skavens and Chaos!!!! Seriously, WHAT THE FUCK?!
Let's err on the safe side and drop the topic as a whole.
 
It's not about righteousness or anything like that, Honour duels were often made to take satisfaction to deep insults that resulted in mutual hatred between two parties were they consented to have a duel in a predeterminated place with witnesses and equal weapons, there's nothing wrong with that and prohibiting consenting people from doing it is tyranny.

No one's suggesting outlawing duels, but how it works right now, is basically a smug prick (your proverbial Jaime, in this scenario) can goad someone into throwing down the gauntlet even if they have no hope of seeking redress, because their family is stronger, they have more resources/political status than them, and they have no hope of beating them in a straight fight.

The Dornish work around that shit by not fighting fair, which clearly informs you on how people dislike the Dornish for being too pragmatic. Honor before reason is only really the case less than half the time, the other half is the shitty culture allowing what is essentially murder take place and naming it legal.
 
So, seeing half a dozen people being threadbanned and the mods flipping their shit over someone wanting to build a biological nuke to kill Warhammer Orcs (which are sort of plant-people with literally no cultural values besides fighting, killing and looting), should we just try to make friends with the Others?

Genocide is bad, dontchanow?
Don't call them others! That could be taken as a racially offensive term implying they are different from the rest of us! It's like calling Skaven rats or Orcs fungus!

The Others are glorious People of Color (blue and "horrific black nothingness" are colors!) fighting against evil white people and white tree imperialists. Also we support a "wall" which automatically makes every poster in here an alt-right, everything-phobic, Tumpist Nazi. Obviously /s

Okay joking aside, I think we've been mostly good on the touchy front so far? I mean at the very least not that much worse than what's in ASOIAF
 
Let's err on the safe side and drop the topic as a whole.

Urgh... fine. Where's this debacle anyways? I wanna know the backstory of this orc injustice (bah, everyone knows that Orcs are good for two things, killing and playing [torture]).

{FYI, I like the Druchii and Blood Dragons.}
 
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The Others are glorious People of Color (blue and "horrific black nothingness" are colors!) fighting against evil white people and white tree imperialists. Also we support a "wall" which automatically makes every poster in here an alt-right, everything-phobic, Tumpist Nazi. Obviously /s
:wtf:

Can I have some of that?
 
What? That Warhammer Advisor quest again? Huh, good thing we put those WMDs on hold then?
Yup.

The character just read a book that is the WHFB equivalent of the Codex of Infinite Planes (which let a single Mage stroll up to the City of Brass and come within a hair's breadth of conquering it) in terms of empowering someone... As long as they are willing to use maliciously radioactive magic.

Not being willing to use said magic, the knowledge still presented us with a loophole that, with study, might allow for us to remotely cause a chain-reaction explosion on the setting's maliciously's evil uranium (as we can alread do so for that kind of magic, and the uranium is maliciously radioactive magic given form).

And what are the setting's biggest threat run their entire society on said uranium, having a giant pillar of it in the middle of their capital.

But the players are too afraid of talking about that now. Because killing literal evil ratmen bent on enslaving all other races in the world is bad. Ratmen that make Lolth's Drow society look restrained and reasonable, which suddenly be unsurprising when your everything runs on maliciously evil uranium.
 
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