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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Try her?
Is unfaithfulness a crime by our law?
For what?
Trying to take advantage of our takeover by claiming lands he wants?
I strongly suspect much more than half our "loyalists" are guilty of that.
Crake
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Not so many of them try to get the man he's cuckolding to swear to our banner before plotting his murder, though...
Bit brazen, innit?
Unfaithfulness itself is a civil matter, no one gets put in jail for it, since it's not a danger to society. However unfaithfulness that results in a false heir is basically attempted theft of the inheritance under the law, which is a criminal matter.
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...adultery?
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Doesn't sound like murder to me?
If he actually does directly plan to kill the lord, fuck him.
If he merely hopes that we will remove him in our conquest, that's fair game.
That is sensible, however in our particular realm it is a crime that can be solved with a first or second level Divination, so I suspect that won't be a problem for long.
Just a remnant of the low-magic days that will soon be forgotten.
Crake
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It's definitely our business, even if just by dint of association. When people are using our names to claim outlandish things like "the King will oust him and neatly handle my settling in as Lord of this land", yes, it motherfucking is 100% our business.
No, its not our business because its kind of low level. He could claim the dragon would make him the king of westros and it still won't matter. Its two minor nobles having an affair. It literally doesn't matter.
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To be fair, we do know the local lord is getting increasingly paranoid and crazy, if we can help him that's great, if not he will actually have to be replaced sooner or later.
And since we now do know there's no big conspiracy, no poison or magic in play, that might be the case.
And since we now do know there's no big conspiracy, no poison or magic in play, that might be the case.
I would not really call them minor, or at least the lady is not since she is married to lord sworn directly to the Iron Throne tenants-in-cheif of the crownlands, that puts them at the same rank as say the Glovers, the Umbers or the Manderlys.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Hah, if we were Robert and perfectly happy letting Lords murder each other or at least stupidity cause their own deaths which could claim more lives as a consequence of the instability, then yeah, it's none of our business.
Inheritance disputes are serious fucking business. Extended family will raise their banners because it becomes a matter of "you're calling my daughter a whore AND depriving her children of their inheritance. Hell to the No."
I know its mostly semantics, but the Glovers are technically a Masterly house, and "Lord" is more of a courtesy.
Inheritance disputes are serious fucking business. Extended family will raise their banners because it becomes a matter of "you're calling my daughter a whore AND depriving her children of their inheritance. Hell to the No."
I know its mostly semantics, but the Glovers are technically a Masterly house, and "Lord" is more of a courtesy.
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Westeros!Yeah i consider them minor lords. Still not sure why people care about them. We don't need them. We have the legions. And we can reform into a Mercantile society. Capitalism.
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[X] Approach Lord Farring without the letter clouding things. Also, make a note to arrange the cuckolding Farring Knight's quiet death or trip to the wall. No need for that to bite you in the ass later on. And needless to say, make sure Lady Farring knows to keep mum. How that conversation goes down you will leave to your more tactful--and sympathetic--mother.
I agree with crake on principal, if not on ruthlessness. Put him in exile, and tell her to shut the fuck up about it or go north if he means that much to her.
If he refuses exile, well... we gave him a chance. Also not in the mood for jokes atm, sorry.
I agree with crake on principal, if not on ruthlessness. Put him in exile, and tell her to shut the fuck up about it or go north if he means that much to her.
If he refuses exile, well... we gave him a chance. Also not in the mood for jokes atm, sorry.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
Personally I think we should fake her death, and send her and her lover off to make themselves a new life in Essos.
why tho. Nobody knows. Just let matters lie.
True I should have been more careful picking examples.
Yes, but it's not here yet. I'm talking about the situation as it is now not as it might be.
Goldfish
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Well, that sure didn't turn out like I was expecting. Nice twist, @DragonParadox. Good reminder that everything isn't magic and monsters, too. Gotta remember that Westeros is full of Westerosis...i.e. terrible people.
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Romantic... but not really feeling like they deserve a clean break either. To say nothing of what that would mean for their son.
perhaps...
[X] Approach Lord Farring without the letter clouding things.
-[X] Inform the lady Farring and her paramour of their fate should we find her die of unnatural causes... and ensure them that they rumors that we can pluck thoughts and dreams from their heads are more than true. And we will look into them first should something happen.
@Crake Do you think that would be enough to keep them from trying to off him?
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Really, not even explicitly terrible, just awfully short-sighted or selfish.
Though I guess it's terrible since this is bound to result in bloodshed unless we intervene, probably claiming innocent lives... so yeah in this case maybe terrible.
Though I guess it's terrible since this is bound to result in bloodshed unless we intervene, probably claiming innocent lives... so yeah in this case maybe terrible.
Goldfish
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@Artemis1992, can you maybe add an unambiguous reminder to Lady Farring that should her husband die prior to the divorce, regardless of the cause, she and her lover will be thoroughly investigated?
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[X] Artemis1992
Honestly this is a little too convoluted for comfort here. Dont forget this is basically a party of Knights ordered by their Knight leader WITHOUT the knowledge and consent of their Lord Paramount (Stannis teethgtunding Baratheon) to deliver both a letter imploring a Manderly level Lord to commit Treason while at the same time unknowingly deliver a love letter to the Lords wife confirming both their decades long adultery, the bastardry of the Lords Heir and their intention to have him both killed/dethroned and have the wife's lover take his place both as Lord of his ancestral lands and the b words freaking spouse.
What did they want us to legitimize the kid as theirs too and stop the uproar that would cause among their freaking subjects at the betrayal or did they intend for him keep the first husbands name as father to cash in on his good reputation among their new subjects?
My advice on a course of action? Diplomance the Lord later in a month or two. Take the first letter away instead of the second. Make sure none of the knights here know what is in it. Suicide both the Knight and the Lady before they can out just how many have actually turned to our side already. Let the entire affair come out. Make sure the kid atleast gets the black instead of the knife. And dump Aurane Waters the Second coming into the sea while you are at it.
And once it's done never speak of any of this again. That is honestly the only way this thing is not gonna bite us in the ass. Sympathy for the kid or Viserys's Moms soft spot for the woman aside.
Honestly folks it's not a high level spell to assure parentage and I want that to become standard at some point. If only to stop doing it themselves and inciting desperate vengeance or something. And this will just much a lot of stuff up if it ever comes out we knowingly covered it up. But if we blow this open without silencing them they will use anything including our conspiracy to save their freaking cushy lives. So if we are going to cover it up. That's the only way to be thorough.
What did they want us to legitimize the kid as theirs too and stop the uproar that would cause among their freaking subjects at the betrayal or did they intend for him keep the first husbands name as father to cash in on his good reputation among their new subjects?
My advice on a course of action? Diplomance the Lord later in a month or two. Take the first letter away instead of the second. Make sure none of the knights here know what is in it. Suicide both the Knight and the Lady before they can out just how many have actually turned to our side already. Let the entire affair come out. Make sure the kid atleast gets the black instead of the knife. And dump Aurane Waters the Second coming into the sea while you are at it.
And once it's done never speak of any of this again. That is honestly the only way this thing is not gonna bite us in the ass. Sympathy for the kid or Viserys's Moms soft spot for the woman aside.
Honestly folks it's not a high level spell to assure parentage and I want that to become standard at some point. If only to stop doing it themselves and inciting desperate vengeance or something. And this will just much a lot of stuff up if it ever comes out we knowingly covered it up. But if we blow this open without silencing them they will use anything including our conspiracy to save their freaking cushy lives. So if we are going to cover it up. That's the only way to be thorough.
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tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
I would like to note that while the letter certainly make it seem like he want the Lord dead, it don't seem like he want him dead to become Lord himself, he want the Lord dead, so he can be with Alyse all the time, instead of the way it currently is, where there might be years between them each other, so there's a non-zero chance, that at least the Knight might be okay with being exiled to Essos with Alyse, especially if we promise him a well paid position in the legion, and the chance to earn a keep though good service.
I don't think he's planning to become Lord, he's planning to hasten their sons inheritance, and marry Alyse after she has become a widow, at least if we believe the letter to be his true thoughts.
[x] Fake Lady Alyse's death, and send her to somewhere out of the way in Essos, then tell her lover to leave Stannis service and join Alyse in exile, they are not to ever return the Westeros, if they want to become nobility again, they will have to earn it though service to the crown.
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