A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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This one is likely to involve the use of more spells to solve than the previous ones, it was the hardest House/Lord to convince barring the pious zealots, with the most potential for complication.
I actually missed the previous plan. And while I think I'd have argued against the offer of a mage from the Scholarium on the grounds of them needing to be discrete, it's not a major point since the Lord himself has said he wants discretion, so he'd clearly be on top of things on that regard.
Low stakes, yeah, this makes sense. Back in the early days of the thread I would have started thinking up plots to lead you guys down the rabbit hole, but you guys already have a lot of plates in the air so doing that now would do more harm than good. Once we are don here we have to do the talk about the Broken Heaven, that should be more interesting and nuanced discussion.
Still when I don't see engagement I feel like I'm stringing you guys along with filler. Glad to see it's at least interesting enough filer to keep you all reading.
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- France
I'm mostly afraid of the next interlude being super short. We arrive, introduce ourselves to the men, get a little briefing, and then what?
So how about adding in an Ears of the City or Legend Lore? Or a Divination?
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Well, I only went above a PfE item when @Goldfish pointed out that the ribbon could hide auras and didn't explicitly encourage them to use it for more than defensive purposes.
I get it, still not maximally cautious, but we aren't going to have much time to help Crownlanders after this and it really isn't like at any other point in the quest where the cost of helping too much could harm us greater than helping too little.
Speaking of, DP can we know what the Fey Baubles were and what they do now? Weve had it for a while now right?
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- Earth
votes haven't really been hard lately. this one is literally coordinate with the other one doing stuff and see what they are up to.
Personally I'd like to get to actually conquering Westeros, though people tell me that's still months away
We keep skulking around Westeros despite having vastly superior military might and people do start to build their own mage schools in Westeros now.
Since the Conclave the Seven started mass manufacturing stuff and started building both a military (Officially only assisting, we'll see how much those oaths are worth when push comes to shove) and a social security net (building goodwill).
Winterfell is starting to train mages, Manderly and Lannister are long at it.
I really want at to at least take a look into Castamere, see what the Lannister's are cooking up in there next month.
Court of Stars is plotting as well.
Waiting longer let's us diplomance more people so we'll have to fight less people, but it also allows all those other factors to build up their forces. Because we've done a very good job of keeping a lid on supernatural enemies in Westeros.
My own opinion on items is we can leave a few here and there, so they'll be thought of as one-offs, but actually spreading around tons of what is our standard kit will create too much suspicion upon all who get it. So helping Crownlanders beyond a few specific lords may be too much to ask for.
The Ribbons in particular are great at hiding, but they're also our signature disguise item.
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Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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- USA
[X] Make a mental note to send your compliments to Lord Monford, if not personally touch base with him, the man really has been working hard and under the most heavy constraints and scrutiny of all your vassals thus far.
-[X] Coordinate with his agents, if nothing else to keep from tripping over each other's feet in a bid to secure Lord Farring's allegiance. Like as not you will have to unravel a mystery and deliver him answers before the man's comfortable enough trusting any outsiders.
-[X] Don't be stingy on the use of divination, Ears of the City and similar information gathering methods to dig up information from their leads.
[X] Rina Level Up
-[X] Class: +1 Rimefire Witch
-[X] Feat: Fell Drain
-[X] Skills (7 points): +1 Concentration, +1 Knowledge (Religion), +1 Spellcraft, +2 Sense Motive, +2 Knowledge (The Planes)
-[X] Coordinate with his agents, if nothing else to keep from tripping over each other's feet in a bid to secure Lord Farring's allegiance. Like as not you will have to unravel a mystery and deliver him answers before the man's comfortable enough trusting any outsiders.
-[X] Don't be stingy on the use of divination, Ears of the City and similar information gathering methods to dig up information from their leads.
[X] Rina Level Up
-[X] Class: +1 Rimefire Witch
-[X] Feat: Fell Drain
-[X] Skills (7 points): +1 Concentration, +1 Knowledge (Religion), +1 Spellcraft, +2 Sense Motive, +2 Knowledge (The Planes)
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Really? I wanted to buy all the PfE items from the PoE and PoA markets as we could and literally sell them incognito to every Lord and Landed Knight in Westros. At this point I dont trust Tywin or a random devil to not have atleast a few mind controlled. Westeros needs a cleanup action and at this point PfE scarcity even among hostile lords is more of a problem than just handing them out.
It's time for Watero Corlesian the wandering Bravosi merchant to sell lords magic dodads.
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Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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- USA
I didn't offer items to Edric Mallery or to Lord Chyttering for example because their circumstances are vastly different in context and scope, whereas Blount is relying mostly on his own wits at the moment.
Anyway if there is one thing @TalonofAnathrax and I agree on is that it really isn't that big of a deal or worth arguing about, y'all voted for it after all, it's not like I would have shouted him down if he presented a more cautious plan. That would have been an equally valid way to go about things.
I don't feel right unless I've left a vassal feeling like maybe we were almost a little too helpful, it's good for your vassals to feel indebted, they work their asses off trying to not feel that way.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
votes haven't really been hard lately. this one is literally coordinate with the other one doing stuff and see what they are up to.
Personally I'd like to get to actually conquering Westeros, though people tell me that's still months away
We keep skulking around Westeros despite having vastly superior military might and people do start to build their own mage schools in Westeros now.
Since the Conclave the Seven started mass manufacturing stuff and started building both a military (Officially only assisting, we'll see how much those oaths are worth when push comes to shove) and a social security net (building goodwill).
Winterfell is starting to train mages, Manderly and Lannister are long at it.
I really want at to at least take a look into Castamere, see what the Lannister's are cooking up in there next month.
Court of Stars is plotting as well.
Waiting longer let's us diplomance more people so we'll have to fight less people, but it also allows all those other factors to build up their forces. Because we've done a very good job of keeping a lid on supernatural enemies in Westeros.
The problem with launching an invasion now, is that while we could win it, we would take moderate to heavy losses. And then we'd get gang-banged by Devils, Deep Ones and the Golden Company.
That's mostly why we're targeting the latter three threats first before even considering launching an invasion.
I agree we should totally do that after we come to power, and just generic PfE would be great to deploy soon. But I'm worried the combo of the most useful (and therefore our favorite) items may become a calling card to identify our loyalists by if someone thinks to look.
Also, since Braavos joined us, we'd need a better cover to avoid suspicion. Putting our cover somewhere further afield, like Qarth, could work. Except merchants from far away are rarer and more attention grabbing/suspicious. Besides the inherent (high) interest in anyone who sells real magic trinkets.
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I'm kind of torn between a Lya interlude with Melisandre and the Light of creation and waiting to do the next update. On the one hand I'm inspired to do the interlude, but on the other hand I would be leaving the vote on a very weak note overnight. What do you guys think?
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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- USA
TBH you do you.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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- Russia
I, for one, am excited to know what that book really hid all this time behind the "???" of the 3rd tier.
Interlude, please.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
Updates are always nice, of course, but you can't go wrong with a Lya interlude. Especially if you've got some inspiration in the brainpan.
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- Germany
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Indulge yourself (a little), because that game here also exists for you having fun.
@participation: for one, as other questers mentioned, no high stakes with the latest votes, and vote generation by (Crake) taking lead and amending, second, real-life bothers (in my case, our team is currently coping with the workload as long as no-one takes its vacation or gets sick, which means managment already told us the workload will increase), third, currently it feels like kind of a vacation in game where for 3 days in a row no world-ending catastrophees need our immediate attention.
OK doing the interlude, now might be a time for some level up votes.
Just life getting in the way of commenting. But this quest is literally the thing i schedule my day around. I don't go to sleep before the last update everyday. Even if i have to change my sleep schedule.
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- Germany
Rina was already done, I think.
So we have at least Zherys and Relath as vassals of noticable firepower to level, I think?
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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- USA
@DragonParadox Not sure if we voted on them yet, but Xor and Rina's sheets have yet to be updated.
And I could have sworn we voted on Zherys already?
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
Actually we never got around to voting for Rina's level up, though the plan is ready.
Can you add this to your plan, @Crake?
[] Rina Level Up
-[] Class: +1 Rimefire Witch
-[] Feat: Fell Drain
-[] Skills (7 points): +1 Concentration, +1 Knowledge (Religion), +1 Spellcraft, +2 Sense Motive, +2 Knowledge (The Planes)