In all honesty I want those trinkets so that we can use a ritual to dissolve or subsume this market. If these fuckers had come to us and asked for business to be opened we would have let them (provided they follow our laws obviously). With this back end bullshit I am inclined to use the trinkets to close the market with everyone there still in it and trap them like Braniac did Kandor.
This too, I think forcing the Lord to accept our rule is actually the nice and diplomatic solution, if we arrive with all trinkets I would expect nothing less than complete and total subordination, that or leave the city and never again come to our realm or any realm we plan on conquering.

Demanding a meeting without all the trinkets gives him a chance to cooperate without a noose around his neck, and thus any promise and compromise he offers will actually be worth something.
 
This too, I think forcing the Lord to accept our rule is actually the nice and diplomatic solution, if we arrive with all trinkets I would expect nothing less than complete and total subordination, that or leave the city and never again come to our realm or any realm we plan on conquering.

Demanding a meeting without all the trinkets gives him a chance to cooperate without a noose around his neck, and thus any promise and compromise he offers will actually be worth something.
He's a Fey. Unless we're stupid in how we word our terms, any promises he makes will always be ironclad.
 
Well, we are definitely doing that. One way or another that bauble is ours.

Even though whatever moronic Lyseni magister who made the deal should be dead for this stupidity, I probably would have killed for a bauble that spins gold in our early levels. Imagine that, back when we were scraping by on whatever gear Lya could find the time to make for us.

Unless this is bullshit Fey stuff again, and the gold turns back into hay in the morning.
My guess? It literally spun gold. Like put a gold bar one end and get gold thread the other end. Wording pretty important with the fey.

The quil? Literally cannot write the word lies. How else would something like that get around mental protections if it was wewk enough to be called a bauble?
 
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He's a Fey. Unless we're stupid in how we word our terms, any promises he makes will always be ironclad.
But that would not ensure he is actually a good trading partner or competent in his job.
They have repeatedly spit on our faces, i get it we like to play nice, i do too, but i think we already have and they have offered nothing in turn.
the way i see it:
All trinketsAs we are (Trinkets - 1)
Legitimacy, as we would be the de facto heirs of the city by their rules."Good enough" Legitimacy, we respect them and got most of the trinkets, the last will come in time.
Gain Fey respect, we follow their customs, Loss of Fey respect for the realm, Fey laws > Mortal laws.Reinforce the idea that our law applies to all citizens, mortal or not.
Show of force, we have all the cards and come to negotiate.Show of trust, we give them a chance to foster cooperation.
Bound Lord, he will have to follow our contractKnowledge of whether the Lord is worthy of the position or not, negotiate from there.
 
Legitimacy, as we would be the de facto heirs of the city by their rules.
That's where the disconnect is.

We aren't hunting for the trinkets to play by their rules, we're hunting for the trinkets to utterly rob the fey of their tools to hinder us. They can only meaningfully offer hinderance by sticking to their bargains. Us taking away even that slips a noose around their necks.
 
I disagree with your assessment.
Collecting the trinkets and playing nice it's fine for our subordinates, but a king cannot be seen running around looking for favor before negotiating with what is effectively a subject, this is particularly important because the expectations of this Fey court will likely be moulded by this.

As for they being trading partners, this is also a test, can they respect us as much as we respect them? We have most of the trinkets, we have the city, they need to meet us.
If they refuse then they simply are not trade partner material, we value the ability to adapt to the realm, and we have so far completely played by their rules while they ignore ours.
Either the Lord is reasonable and we will have an amenable meeting, or he isn't and bending over backwards for him was never worth it in the first place.
You have a point about the not being seen running around for scraps. I was just trying to address the deliberately antagonist attitude of this approach. Dropping the hammer at the first hint of noncompliance is a tool for very specific circumstances, not every little thing just because we can and it's "free".

Checking to see what's going on and what we want to do about it doesn't preclude killing everyone in the room if it somehow becomes warranted. There are other ways of demonstrating strength than bald faced threats and pointed indignation.

Walk in with a clear idea of what we want, learn what their position is, negotiate on the points we disagree on, and draw lines if we need to. Control the situation, the negotiations, and let our strength be an underlying point behind what we are doing until it gets dug up.

The key point as that we get more out of politeness than we do out of rudeness. Being a dick to someone because they can't stop us and have given us an excuse is the kind of thing that follows you home eventually. Always being seen as the reasonable person in any given room is worth something when working with people of all different levels of strength.

Negotiating in the tone you imply is the diplomatic equivalent of showing up in a dirty wife beater with a crowbar tossed over our shoulder, and threatening to beat them with it if they don't pay up.

I generally think that we should play the part of the good businessman; show up in a nice suit, with a smile and a profitable exchange for everyone who plays ball. Be the kind of guy who comes out on top all the time, but other people still like working with because they get something too.

Let the pile of bodies we climbed over to get here do the threatening for us, It's seemed to work so far.
 
Interlude DXLXXXVIII: Of False Treachery and Tainted Gold
Of False Treachery and Tainted Gold

Ninth Day of the Tenth Month 293 AC

Carrying a glass case filled with magic-eating leaches was considerably less pleasant than the basket full of dream cats. Even terrified about where he was taking them and asking hundreds of questions he could not answer in the open the cubs had just made him want to walk faster so he could get those damn collars off them and replaced with fake ones so they could be free. The leaches just squirmed over one another, their many glowing mouths sucking at the glass, and the only reason Maelor wanted to get them back to the shop faster was so he would not have to look at them anymore.

Thankfully the Fakir seemed to have believed his story about wanting a weapon to use against his master in full. The boy had thus allowed the Efreeti merchant to 'trick him' into buying the lot of them, not just the handful he would need for an assassination. He had paid mostly in 'embezzled' coin with three of the Erinyes' old bows added in to make the trade look authentically desperate. One of the bows had even used to be Sarell's, but she had not acted strange about it like so many would. 'Sell it, break it in front of a tree or do anything else useful with it, I have a better bow.' A lot of folk could stand to learn that sort of sense, Maelor thought as he walked down the silent Street of Ashsweeps.

Silent, instincts honed in the narrow alleys of Mantarys screamed at him to stop. This was the quiet time of day, sure, that was why he had chosen it for his supposedly treacherous meeting, but quiet was not the same thing as dead silence. When the air goes dead chances were something else was gonna follow.

"Well... well... what have we here? Perhaps a guilty conscience?" A voice like jagged bone scraped over his nerves echoed in the boy's mind as a clanking skeletal thing stepped out from a twisting alley. At first Maelor thought it was some kind of walking corpse, gilded bones peeking out beneath grotesque face-skins fashioned into clothing, but looking into the hollow sockets of its eyes Maelor saw shadows dripping and congealing like old blood and knew the thing for what it was—one of the would-be masters of flesh and form, a Kyton Bonesinger.


Maelor slipped his left hand in one of the many pouches on his belt, reaching fingers curling around the angular edges of the Sending Stone, glad he had the foresight to ask Sarell to trail him even if they could not afford to keep close enough to pass messages through her own mind-speech.

"A guilty conscience in the City of Brass? Bloody strange that," he scoffed aloud as he set the case of leaches down and very deliberately put a few steps between himself and it. The last thing he would need is to scatter them all over the street or worse. "Are you gonna announce that it might be a bit warm out next?" he taunted again.

"Not all sins are treachery," the Fiend proclaimed, pointing one bony finger at him accusingly. "No one cares for a traitor's fate, but your master might pay handsomely for your skull once I wrap it in gold and set it with blood-bright rubies."

"Lies have short legs," a cruel yet strangely childlike giggle rang out through the empty street. "They are so short cause I cut them off at the knee..." The figure that emerged into the light seemed almost human save for the eyes half-rotten in their sockets and the dozens of knifes piercing its flesh, including a dozen lodged in its head like a macabre crown. Another Kyton, this one a Truth-Speaker, one of those who fancied they could flay primordial truths from the flesh of its victims.

"So you are going to try to kill me and then hand my body to my master as a traitor on the words of the Fakir of Fortune." The young mage shook his head with every appearance of sadness, though he wanted nothing more than to curse and rage at the treacherous merchant. "I wonder what the two of you have done that he would send you to your death thus," he added, keeping up the mummery.

"Alive or dead you will tell us of your master. There is so much of use locked up in that skull of yours, so much beauty also..." The Bonesinger Kyton did not step forward but glided upon the air, bones clinking and clanking, the sown faces to its garments seeming to move in a silent scream.

"I was about to say the same thing about you... except for the beauty part, you are ugly as sin," Maelor said as he called to the shadow and flame in his blood. A lance of black fire flew from his hand, and where it struck the vestment of skin flames burst into greedy crimson light, two magics twined together as one.

The thing's gaze looked out hungrily from the dimming flames, caring nothing for its ally, only its prey as it lunged forward. For a moment Maelor felt his stomach turn over at the horrors reflected in that hollow gaze, but he had seen the depths of the Pit itself in his dreams and he would not relent. He did not flinch when a lash of leather and silk darted towards his head... though he did smile when the weapon was turned aside by a flash of his warding amulet... and then he cast the same spells as before, flinging himself backwards from the roaring flame of his own spell, trusting the guard against fire to do the rest.

Somehow he came out of that unsinged, though he would have been satisfied with 'alive'. Looking wildly around for the second Fiend he saw Sarell standing on its corpse, sword dripping with ichor. "I did not want to steal your kill after you promised to take his skull," she said simply.

Maelor briefly considered the matter. "Fair enough," he shrugged. "Come on, we have some leeches to deliver, then we have to think about how to deal with the bastard who set those two on us."

OOC: I was tempted to cut off before the fight, but in the end I decided to push through, though it is now super late.
 
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What spells did he use ? Fireballs with a tricked out Eldritch Blast ?

He absolutely didn't use the kind of tactics I expected from a warlock with stealth magic... But if it works, it works !
 
What spells did he use ? Fireballs with a tricked out Eldritch Blast ?

He absolutely didn't use the kind of tactics I expected from a warlock with stealth magic... But if it works, it works !

He used a maximized eldritch blast with a fireball attached twice, yes. As for stealth he had a tank full of leches to keep safe so he could not afford to play hide and seek.

Anyway good night guys, see you tomorrow with fey intrigues.
 
Of False Treachery and Tainted Gold

Ninth Day of the Tenth Month 293 AC

Carrying a glass case filled with magic-eating leaches was considerably less pleasant than the basket full of dream cats. Even terrified about where he was taking them and asking hundreds of questions he could not answer in the open, the kittens had just made him want to walk faster so he could get those damn collars off them and replaced with fake ones so they could be free. The leaches just squirmed over one another, their many glowing mouths sucking at the glass. The only reason Maelor wanted to get them back to the shop faster was so he would not have to look at them anymore.

Thankfully, the Fakir seemed to have believed his story about wanting a weapon to use against his master in full. The boy had thus allowed the efreeti merchant to 'trick him' into buying the lot of them, not just the handful he would need for an assassination. He had paid mostly in 'embezzled' coin, with three of the Erinyes' old bows added in to make the trade look authentically desperate. One of the bows had once even belonged to Sarell, but she had not acted strange about it like so many would. 'Sell it, break it in front of a tree, or do anything else useful with it, I have a better bow.' A lot of folk could stand to learn that sort of sense, Melor thought as he walked down the silent Street of Ashsweeps.

Silent, instincts honed in the narrow alleys of Mantarys screamed at him to stop. This was the quiet time of day, that is why he had chosen it for his supposedly treacherous meeting, but quiet was not the same thing as dead silence. When the air goes dead chances are something else's gonna follow.

"Well... well... what have we here? Perhaps a guilty conscience?" A voice like jagged bone scraped over his nerves and echoed in the boy's mind as a clanking skeletal thing stepped out from a twisting alley. At first Maelor thought it was some kind of walking corpse, gilded bones peeking out beneath grotesque face-skins. Looking into the hollow sockets of its eyes, however, Maelor saw shadows dripping and congealing like old blood, and knew the thing for what it was, one of the would be masters of flesh and form, a Kyton Bonesinger.


Maelor slipped his left hand in one of the many pouches on his belt, reaching fingers curling around the angular edges of the Sending stone. He was glad he had the foresight to ask Sarell to trail him, even if they could not afford to keep close enough to pass messages through her own mind speech.

"A guilty conscience in the City of Brass? Bloody strange that," he scoffed aloud as he set the case of leeches down and very deliberately put a few steps between himself and it. The last thing he needed is to scatter them all over the street or worse. "Are you gonna announce that it might be a bit warm out next?" he taunted again.

"Not all sins are treachery," the fiend proclaimed, pointing one bony finger at him accusingly. "No one cares for a traitor's fate, but your master might pay handsomely for your skull once I wrap it in gold and set it with blood-bright rubies."

"Lies have short legs," a cruel yet strangely childlike giggle rang out through the empty street. "They are so short 'cause I cut them off at the knee..." The figure that emerged into the light seemed almost human, save for the eyes half-rotten in their sockets and the dozens of knifes piercing its flesh, including a dozen lodged in its head like a macabre crown. Another Kyton, this one a Truth-Speaker, one of those who fancied they could flay primordial truths from the flesh of theor victims.

"So you are going to try to kill me and then hand my body to my master as a traitor on the words of the Fakir of Fortune." the young mage shook his head with every appearance of sadness though he wanted nothing more than to curse and rage at the treacherous merchant. "I wonder what the two of you have done that he would send you to your death thus," he added, keeping up the mummery.

"Alive or dead, you will tell us of your master. There is so much of use locked up in that skull of yours, so much beauty also..." The greater fiend did not step forward but glided upon the air, bones clinking and clanking, the stiched faces of its garments seeming to move in a silent scream.

"I was about to say the same thing about you... except for the beauty part, you are ugly as sin," Maelor said as he called to the shadow and flame in his blood. A lance of black fire flew from his hand and where it struck the vestment of skin the flames burst into greedy crimson light, two magics twined together as one.

The thing's gaze looked out hungrily from the dimming flames, caring nothing for its ally, only its prey, as it lunged forward. For a moment Maelor felt his stomach turn over at the horrors reflected in that hollow gaze, but he had seen the depths of the Pit itself in his dreams and he would not relent. He did not flinch when a lash of leather and silk darted towards his head... though he did smile when the weapon was turned aside by a flash of his warding amulet.... and then he cast the same spells as before, flinging himself backwards from the roaring flame of his own spell, trusting the guard against fire to do the rest.

Somehow he came out of that unsinged, though he would have been satisfied with 'alive'. Looking wildly around for the second fiend, he saw Sarell standing on its corpse, sword dripping with inchor. "I did not want to steal your kill after you promised to take his skull," she said simply.

Maelor briefly considered the matter. "Fair enough," he shrugged. "Come on, we have some leeches to deliver than we have to think about how to deal with the bastard who set those two on us."

OOC: I was tempted to cut off before the fight, but in the end I decided to push through, though it is now super late. Not yet edited.
Here's an edited version of the chapter, @DragonParadox.

Nice job, Maelor!
 
The Fakir is either going to run or set Maelor up for a trap, probably with some bribed authority.

Best to end it immediately.
 
Maelor: "...and that's my monthly report."

Malarys: "Pardon. I am not sure if I heard this right, but... burned down half the slums!?"

Maelor: "Those slums set themselves on fire."

Malarys: "They're inflammable!!"

Maelor: "They knew better than not to be."
 
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Hurray! We can loot the Fakir!

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@DragonParadox did those dweomercats have any family in the fey wild still? They grow faster there and we'll...

The more vaguely do goody and heroic stuff we can load onto Fey Renly in the fey wild the better.
 
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Maelor: "I'm being fined 1,000 seals? For defending myself from an unlicensed ambush by Kytons?"

Fire Giant Messenger: "Read fine print."

Maelor: "Littering? Littering?! I'll have you know, I learned to loot from the best. There was nothing left of either Kyton when I was done."

Fire Giant Messenger: "Read fine print."

Maelor: "...windblown ashes...? Seriously?" I can't wait until I learn to turtle my enemies.
 
So @DragonParadox, Sarell think Maelor is "alright, for demonkin"?

Mostly I like how Cowboy as hell he is literally all the time.

Yes, she also sees him as someone to restrains his chaotic impulses to how he does a job while always keeping the major objectives in mind, which if Sarell is being honest with herself (and she tries to be) is better than some baatezu she worked with.

@DragonParadox, can we get intel on Yrmeri strongholds that we can raid?

Sure, but military intelligence is going to take more effort than listening to rumors
 
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Yes, she also sees him as someone to restrains his chaotic impulses to how he does a job while always keeping the major objectives in mind, which if Sarell is being honest with herself (and she tries to be) is better than some baatezu she worked with.



Sure, but military intelligence is going to take more effort than listening to rumors
No worries, I have no doubt with the interest Ymeri has been showing in Prime Material that her cultists will flare up yet again eventually.
 
@Goldfish @DragonParadox

Seriously, he walks into the proverbial dark side-street where he meets two Motherfuckers who Bad Assed their butts off, literally in one case, and his response is to turn it into a Western Shootout and he quickdraws the one who told him would dig through his skull with a promise to scoop his secrets out instead.

You don't get anymore Cowboy than that. He's just missing the hat.
 
@Goldfish @DragonParadox

Seriously, he walks into the proverbial dark side-street where he meets two Motherfuckers who Bad Assed their butts off, literally in one case, and his response is to turn it into a Western Shootout and he quickdraws the one who told him would dig through his skull with a promise to scoop his secrets out instead.

You don't get anymore Cowboy than that. He's just missing the hat.

I was undecided whether to give this a funny or an insightful, I settled on the latter, though by the narrowest margins.
 
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