A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Oh, wow. That's a really nice profit. Running a magic shop is surprisingly lucrative.
That said, we can't reasonably report too much profit or that will seem suspicious, even if we're willing to pay more in taxes.
@Duesal, we probably should tone down what we buy. Better safe than sorry.
Pffft. You are doing it wrong.
Let me tell you a lesson about how to profit from the black market. You always pay generous taxes, if only to hide that you are evading taxes like Lucifer's Accountant.
In parallel to that, if you are evading taxes, you have black money. Which can only be spent in the black market.
So, us buying with lots of cash from this guy could be seen as us washing money in things they won't get to track down. We just need to make clear that this didn't happen
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
We aren't cutting the kitties up, if we want graft of their abilities, we will get them by studying them in the Fungus Forge, and doing a research action to make artificial grafts with their abilities.
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Two problems there. One : They are cubs so they don't have that ability, although if the forge could decide to use the fully grown version. Two: The forge usually needs to, for lack of better word, digest a creature to grow it I think. I don't think we can use Dweomar cat claws and teeth to unlock that species or its grafts.
Is this right @DragonParadox?
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tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
As far as I understand we can automatically unlock templates, by throwing enough corpses with said templates in it, or we can unlock a template, by studying a creature that has it.
But if the good abilities are adult cats only, then we do need to get one of them to mature, before we can get the good abilities, luckily they mature based on exposure to Fey magic, I'm sure we can get them enough of that, that one of them can quickly grow into adulthood.
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You can also study creatures to gain access to their abilities. It's just that tossing corpses in is automatic
My internet only now came back from a brief crash. Hopefully I have time for that Breath Taker interlude (I'll do the discussion from Hermetia's PoV in the morning).
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Would studying the abilities of a Dweomarcat cub get us their adult form abilities or would that be too much?
The pages for dweomar cats implies it has something to do with a connection to their home plane and ley lines. It also specifically says they grow by direct exposure to fey power; we could have them hang out with the fey (blink pups + dweomer kittens = memetic weapons research project?), or just offer to pay the Old Gods to baste them in ley line juice via the former land warden of Lys until they evolve. These guys have suffered powerlessness enough that this sort of offer could net us some incredibly loyal minions.
Plus, for all we know these kittens could be older than we are and just look like kittens because the lack of fey power has stymied their growth. If that's the case being offered a short cut out of years/decades of puberty should be enough to cement enteral loyalty.
It could but the action would be more dificult.
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Alright then.
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If you could add this
[] Study the Dweomarcat cubs physiology in order to grow their adult forms in the forge
that would be greatly appreciated. In essence I want to grow Dweomarcats (and their anti-magic grafts) in the forge.
Edit: And this one also
[] Convert the rituals of the Unilla into something more usable by our mages. (Requires Scholar's tree if using the Scholariums)
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Maybe start out slow? "Please step into my lab, I totally won't vivisect you, then reanimate you so I can do it again" is probably the only thing these guys will get out of anything we say on the topic fresh from the efreeti.
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It is only a research action. I fully expect that we will not do this till months if not a year down the line. Plenty of time to adjust and trust us to not cut them open (why waste living subjects) and plenty of time for us to think up weird creature we want to put AMF on. I fully expect that our resident experts will come up with something terrifying.
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Everyone is undoubtedly very sick of "you are inserted into ASWAH" challenges. Now for another type, inspired by this quest's character generation!
You can pick a single non-adult canon ASOIaF character. You can give them a single level in any non Tier 1 class. They get it around the time Viserys gets his first Sorcerer level (this all happens in ASWAH, of course). As a reward for their choice, you get the same powers as them for as long as they remain alive (ie, as their souls don't pass on into the afterlife). They control their build from then on, and you will never be able to communicate with them or go to their universe.
Their personality is unchanged, but it is entirely possible that just like for Viserys, their personality changes as a result of obtaining these powers.
And by the way @DragonParadox, if we'd chosen another character at character generation (say, Myrcella) would Viserys still have become a huge threat to the Kingdom?
I'm not saying "would he have become such an OP setting-conquering monstrosity", but "would he have grown powerful enough to make the kingdom's normal army irrelevant, and influential enough to make intrigue a major problem"?
You can pick a single non-adult canon ASOIaF character. You can give them a single level in any non Tier 1 class. They get it around the time Viserys gets his first Sorcerer level (this all happens in ASWAH, of course). As a reward for their choice, you get the same powers as them for as long as they remain alive (ie, as their souls don't pass on into the afterlife). They control their build from then on, and you will never be able to communicate with them or go to their universe.
Their personality is unchanged, but it is entirely possible that just like for Viserys, their personality changes as a result of obtaining these powers.
And by the way @DragonParadox, if we'd chosen another character at character generation (say, Myrcella) would Viserys still have become a huge threat to the Kingdom?
I'm not saying "would he have become such an OP setting-conquering monstrosity", but "would he have grown powerful enough to make the kingdom's normal army irrelevant, and influential enough to make intrigue a major problem"?
Goldfish
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And we lose those class levels when they die?
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If their soul passes on to their afterlife, yes. If they become a Lich or Bloodraven 2.0, no. If they get Raised, the powers come back. If they die again, you lose them again.
Basically, pick someone to give powers to. Pick well - you want them to stay alive! - and pick something that would be good both in-setting but also IRL. Pick someone who won't take a build you'd hate to have, and who won't die stupidly.
Interlude DXLXXXVI: Sea-Kin's Passage
Sea-Kin's Passage
Twenty-Sixth Day of the Tenth Month 293 AC
To a landwalker the depths would have been black as pitch and featureless as the void, but to the score of children of the Merling King the depths were alive with a myriad sounds from the faint hiss of fish darting through the water to the complex clicking of their dolphin mounts, and through it all the currents of the Southern Wheel pulled them, gentle this far down, but no less inexorable. One might think we are as old as the cliffs and mountains here, Breath Taker thought, marveling not for the first time at how natural this all felt following the great banks of tuna east to west and back again.
This was home, their true home from which they had been banished long ago. The King of the Depths had sheltered them, but his chill realm was meant more for the dead than the living, and ever had Twenty Tribes yearned for the Bounded Seas of the Garden. Alas that 'home' did not mean safe. However much one's soul might yearn to swim free, the enemy lurked here, too. Whether it had followed them as some thought or if instead they had slept shrouded in alien nightmares deep in the fortresses of black stone mattered little. They were here and they hunted the People more for sport than enmity, the most the hunters could manage were raids on their shark-men thralls or slaying some flesh twisted beast, not realizing that for each one slain two were birthed, a little stronger and a little faster than before.
'We are the grindstone on which they test themselves, and as all grindstones we will be worn down to dust', Blight's Bane had proclaimed before the assembled Silverfish Tribe after having defeated their champions with arms and armor forged by landwalkers, forged by fire. By the grace of the Depths that had been a good moment, most of the tribe had acclaimed them and chosen to follow them north, to see the Great Temple of the Last Lament upon the guarded shore where the children of the waves and those of earth could worship together, hopefully to stay if not within Sorcerer's Deep itself then at least within the safer confines of the Northern Passage, what the landwalkers called the Narrow Sea.
Calling Out To More Tribes Progress: 23/25
Breath Taker turned slightly to see the hundreds of figures following them, most swimming under their own power though the old, the young, and the sick clung to the flukes of the Great Singers, the pale markings upon their dark flanks like ghosts passing in the night. The old priest shivered slightly and pressed his hands in a circle, a brief but heartfelt prayer to avert any ill omen.
They had not suffered anything worse than ulat-kini raids so far, but with so many gathered so close the threat of a Leviathan attack was never far from anyone's mind. Blight's Bane was a mighty champion and he had done all he could to train warriors wherever he passed, but there was only so much he could do. Some skills could not be taught, only mastered when the red currents flowed. Let the face of the Spear Bearer turn away from us, Lord, Breath Taker prayed in the stillness of his heart, knowing that his god was ever listening not only in the flow of the ocean, but in the very blood that gave them all life and the will to keep it.
OOC: Did my best to capture the shift in perspective of an undersea people, but in case things are too confusing, the Great Singers are orcas, the southern tribes use them instead of dolphins. They have fewer of them of course but they are much more fierce in battle.
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Given the nature of the magic system I would say so yes, though I would not never in a million years managed to be as creative with him as you guys were
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Let's say that there's a huge difference between "when Myrcella is a Warlock 12, Viserys is a Warlock 12 too" and "Myrcella the level 12 Warlock is plotting and looking for ways to survive as the final boss, Viserys (Sorcerer 14, Half-Dragon Template) and his Companions (a group of level 7-10 spellcasters with good gear) gather allies and sellswords and prepare to invade the realm".
Still, I'm happy we'll never have to see this Viserys. Not only is he a tough opponent, but he would also probably have been insane. Insane Viserys is no longer the first Viserys that I think of when I hear that name, now that I've played this quest
Let's say that there's a huge difference between "when Myrcella is a Warlock 12, Viserys is a Warlock 12 too" and "Myrcella the level 12 Warlock is plotting and looking for ways to survive as the final boss, Viserys (Sorcerer 14, Half-Dragon Template) and his Companions (a group of level 7-10 spellcasters with good gear) gather allies and sellswords and prepare to invade the realm".
Still, I'm happy we'll never have to see this Viserys. Not only is he a tough opponent, but he would also probably have been insane. Insane Viserys is no longer the first Viserys that I think of when I hear that name, now that I've played this quest
Actually I likely would not have written him as insane since I would have kept the awakening after ser Darry's death which would avoid the humiliations that broke him in canon. He probably would not have been 100% stable and he might have been amoral but 'Begger King with magic' would have been a waste.
Goldfish
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Made some edits to the chapter, DP.
Good to see Breath Taker's POV again. How are he and Blight's Bane doing? Any levels gained?
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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@DragonParadox If that action extends toward reaching for all twenty tribes, or even just organizing an expedition to reach their nearest contacts, I would extend the action's progress and double down on it in following turns.
Not yet, they will level when they finish the current action
Oh, wow. Only two progress away from uniting the tribes?
Not quite, it's a repeatable action. This is just the southern tribes.
Good night guys, see you tomorrow with the wrap up in Lys and more minor actions as we move towards the end of the month.
As I said above it does not cover all twenty tribes, just the three off the Southern coast of Essos to add to the four already around SD.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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I wonder if that implies that most of the Tritons in Water who live safely are for the most part tributaries to the Marid, with the only "free" and traditionalist Triton tribes having been safeguarded by the Ferryman in his domain?