Hey I was looking up those flame clove stuff and I came across this page. Is it accurate? Because if so, whose I want em all.

Like that Djinn Blossom. Size of a floating island base and perpetual wind? That even with just a little flower helps ward off even magic poison gas? City defense measure? Heck all the Planar seem like easy finds with a lot of uses but especially these should be a easy get from the Djinn.
That's a very neat find. Those would make great air bases.
 
Hey I was looking up those flame clove stuff and I came across this page. Is it accurate? Because if so, whose I want em all.

Like that Djinn Blossom. Size of a floating island base and perpetual wind? That even with just a little flower helps ward off even magic poison gas? City defense measure? Heck all the Planar seem like easy finds with a lot of uses but especially these should be a easy get from the Djinn.
Huh. We could apply unguent of timelessness to get +2 to Cha checks for a year.
 
So is city wide coverage viable? It says that's in the plane of air and it's like 10 foot diameter in the Material. I'm pretty sure with our advantage sin plant crafting that's not really much of a limit. Giant scented breeze machines that could potentially guard again toxic gases. I like the Lotus and Sanamander Orchids too.
 
So is city wide coverage viable? It says that's in the plane of air and it's like 10 foot diameter in the Material. I'm pretty sure with our advantage sin plant crafting that's not really much of a limit. Giant scented breeze machines that could potentially guard again toxic gases. I like the Lotus and Sanamander Orchids too.

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: No.

We can do it to any one city, maybe multiple, but making it a matter of course probably not very.

Of course like any civic or military improvement, it takes time to roll out.
 
Everyone is undoubtedly very sick of "you are inserted into ASWAH" challenges. Now for another type, inspired by this quest's character generation!

You can pick a single non-adult canon ASOIaF character. You can give them a single level in any non Tier 1 class. They get it around the time Viserys gets his first Sorcerer level (this all happens in ASWAH, of course). As a reward for their choice, you get the same powers as them for as long as they remain alive (ie, as their souls don't pass on into the afterlife). They control their build from then on, and you will never be able to communicate with them or go to their universe.
Their personality is unchanged, but it is entirely possible that just like for Viserys, their personality changes as a result of obtaining these powers.

And by the way @DragonParadox, if we'd chosen another character at character generation (say, Myrcella) would Viserys still have become a huge threat to the Kingdom?
I'm not saying "would he have become such an OP setting-conquering monstrosity", but "would he have grown powerful enough to make the kingdom's normal army irrelevant, and influential enough to make intrigue a major problem"?
To heck with it, I pick Rickon Stark, he's so young that he wont be going out and getting in danger for years to come, which mean I get to enjoy having minor magical powers for years before I risk losing them, and by the time he's ready to adventure, the Starks should be powerful enough that he will be resurrected if he dies.

He get to be a Favored Soul, as I want healing powers, even 1 level of healing is really nice to have.

Edit. Actually I don't think he was born at quest start, if that's the case I change my pick, to whatever infant child of a major lord I can.
 
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To heck with it, I pick Rickon Stark, he's so young that he wont be going out and getting in danger for years to come, which mean I get to enjoy having minor magical powers for years before I risk losing them, and by the time he's ready to adventure, the Starks should be powerful enough that he will be resurrected if he dies.

He get to be a Favored Soul, as I want healing powers, even 1 level of healing is really nice to have.

Edit. Actually I don't think he was born at quest start, if that's the case I change my pick, to whatever infant child of a major lord I can.

Robyn Arryn :rofl:
 
7 out of ten indians evade income taxes to some extent. Why? If you make the equivalent of 10 grand a year in India you owe 30% in tax. Atleast back in the 2000s not sure now. The VAT is just as insane. Averaging over 15% on everything from rice to bottled water to apartments.

Heh, free education and healthcare? India's got it. Government schools and hospitals free for all in every city, town and village. For all the good they do. You send your kids to a government school because you cant afford the fine for breaking the mandatory education law and they come out as literate as they went it. You send your sick to a Government hospital to get a new sickness.

You know what the campaign promise of my homestates Governors reelection campaign was? A mixer for every women, a laptop for every college student and a tv for every guy. Pay no attention to 4 hour daily powercuts. (Granted from what I hear that stopped after 2015 when another party opened two new nuclear plant in the state. Build in the 2000s but pending approval to operate.)

Lady died of old age in her private hill resort and her party forced a closure of every business in the state for a week in grievance.

They called it a "show of grief" shop owners called it barricading the doors of their homefront stores so "party emembers" dont burn it down.

Good PR and advertising doesnt change how shitty something is.
That sounds like a problem with your government not with your tax rate, as I said Denmark has higher tax rates, yet it's one of the best countries in the world to live in
 
To heck with it, I pick Rickon Stark, he's so young that he wont be going out and getting in danger for years to come, which mean I get to enjoy having minor magical powers for years before I risk losing them, and by the time he's ready to adventure, the Starks should be powerful enough that he will be resurrected if he dies.

He get to be a Favored Soul, as I want healing powers, even 1 level of healing is really nice to have.

Edit. Actually I don't think he was born at quest start, if that's the case I change my pick, to whatever infant child of a major lord I can.
10/10, a clever plan. May I suggest simply picking Sansa or something, if Rickon is too young? Or Bran? That way you get Bloodraven invested in keeping him alive, it should stretch out your powers for much longer and even help him level.

And picking Daenerys is cheating, by the way :D

That sounds like a problem with your government not with your tax rate, as I said Denmark has higher tax rates, yet it's one of the best countries in the world to live in
I mean, check out the countries used as examples. They're basically case studies for institutional disasters.
But I also chuckled at the original comments. 30% tax rate is fairly normal (even small! The base tax is 28%, and then there are social contributions, etc) for small businesses in my country - it's only the super-rich who really get out of taxes.
 
Vote closed.
Adhoc vote count started by Duesal on Sep 11, 2019 at 10:37 PM, finished with 104 posts and 14 votes.

  • [X] Purchase two things
    -[X] 1 Mirror Serpent (Creation can be reverse-engineered) Cost 2,592 IM
    -[X] 8 Dweomercat Cubs Cost 8,424 IM
    --[X] Total: 11,016 IM
    -[X] After much deliberation, and obvious reluctance to leave the other two things, Maelor makes a show of contacting his master Malarys to see if he should get a loan for this. Malarys will agree, because they happen to have buyers lined up who will pay extra for prompt delivery. The money will come from a combination of prior savings and a few small loans.
    -[X] Inquire how much the Cloves cost without purchasing the slaves, and ask if he'd be willing to wait one or two days before selling them. Then return a few days later with the pretense of having found a buyer and purchase the Cloves on their own.
    -[X] Then, at night, Maelor visits in secret, and offers to purchase the slugs with 2/3 of the price in coin, and the rest in magical items worth 25% more than the remaining third. This is under the pretense that he wants an ace up his sleeve against his master, and that the money is mostly funds he's secretly squirreled away by skimming off the top for years even before coming to the City of Brass.
    [X] Purchase them all
    -[X] Flame Clove seeds and 50 human slaves used to tending it Cost 9,000 IM
    -[X] 1 Mirror Serpent (Creation can be reverse-engineered) Cost 2,592 IM
    -[X] Breeding population of Wizard's Shackles (No limit on the total number of spell levels absorbed) 14,400 IM
    -[X] 8 Dweomercat Cubs Cost 8,424 IM
    --[X] Total: 34,416 IM
 
10/10, a clever plan. May I suggest simply picking Sansa or something, if Rickon is too young? Or Bran? That way you get Bloodraven invested in keeping him alive, it should stretch out your powers for much longer and even help him level.

And picking Daenerys is cheating, by the way :D
Picking Sansa is risky, she's unlikely to seek out danger yes, but she's old enough that she could seek out danger, and she's young enough that her personality isn't set in stone.

Also I'm not worried about Rickon being too young, I just don't remember if he was conceived at story start, and I can't really pick a person that don't exist now can I?

I want to pick a newly born baby from a major house, that should give me maximum time, before my pick face any form of danger.
I mean, check out the countries used as examples. They're basically case studies for institutional disasters.
But I also chuckled at the original comments. 30% tax rate is fairly normal (even small! The base tax is 28%, and then there are social contributions, etc) for small businesses in my country - it's only the super-rich who really get out of taxes.
That was kind of my point, that their countries problems don't show a problem with high taxes, it show a problem with bad governments.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Duesal on Sep 11, 2019 at 10:37 PM, finished with 104 posts and 14 votes.

  • [X] Purchase two things
    -[X] 1 Mirror Serpent (Creation can be reverse-engineered) Cost 2,592 IM
    -[X] 8 Dweomercat Cubs Cost 8,424 IM
    --[X] Total: 11,016 IM
    -[X] After much deliberation, and obvious reluctance to leave the other two things, Maelor makes a show of contacting his master Malarys to see if he should get a loan for this. Malarys will agree, because they happen to have buyers lined up who will pay extra for prompt delivery. The money will come from a combination of prior savings and a few small loans.
    -[X] Inquire how much the Cloves cost without purchasing the slaves, and ask if he'd be willing to wait one or two days before selling them. Then return a few days later with the pretense of having found a buyer and purchase the Cloves on their own.
    -[X] Then, at night, Maelor visits in secret, and offers to purchase the slugs with 2/3 of the price in coin, and the rest in magical items worth 25% more than the remaining third. This is under the pretense that he wants an ace up his sleeve against his master, and that the money is mostly funds he's secretly squirreled away by skimming off the top for years even before coming to the City of Brass.
    [X] Purchase them all
    -[X] Flame Clove seeds and 50 human slaves used to tending it Cost 9,000 IM
    -[X] 1 Mirror Serpent (Creation can be reverse-engineered) Cost 2,592 IM
    -[X] Breeding population of Wizard's Shackles (No limit on the total number of spell levels absorbed) 14,400 IM
    -[X] 8 Dweomercat Cubs Cost 8,424 IM
    --[X] Total: 34,416 IM
 
Interlude DXLXXXVII: Of Veils and Visions
Of Veils and Visions

Twenty Sixth Day of the Tenth Month 293 AC

Hermetia Aerebalys had never been particularly tempted by a conjurer's arts in her time in the Scholarum. It was hard enough reading the desires of ordinary mortal people and making use of them in places they would not resent nor grow restless in, nevermind deathless spirits from beyond the borders of the world. But the Vaerosiea of Tempest Isle was nothing if not curious, a fact that had lead her through the many strange sorrows and joys of her life, so when the King appeared in Lys without warning, as he was wont to do as far as his dominions stretched and beyond, she asked to see a binding.

Now here she was, staring at a being that had not been in any of her books, if this Amala truly was one and not three joined in some eternal dance of flesh as she bargained over service to the Dragon King. I'll have to ask Erisiel more about her sort, Hermetia noted. A faint chill ran down her spine though there was no breeze in the room. Keeping company with Devils and thinking nothing of it. Do I seem as otherworldly to others as King Viserys does to me?

If she were being honest the young Vaerosiea had always thought of her time in Sorcerer's Deep and later in Lys as preparing herself for a grand adventure in foreign lands that she had once only dreamed of running her fingers over the cracked parchment of old maps. What if for some I am the strange and far off thing they glimpse only once in their lifetime? She wondered again, remembering the awed and almost frightened looks she glimpsed in the eyes of provincial magisters come to ask some aid or judgement passed. She had always thought what they feared was the iron fist of the Legion that had brought an end to Aedon's Folly...

"This law of yours protects gods and the sheep who mindlessly follow in their wake?" The Fiend's leading question started Hermetia from her thoughts. "Why not dispense with the gods and keep all the wool, milk, and flesh for yourself?"

For a long moment the King was silent. "It is not that I do not have an answer, but that I have so many I do not know which to give first," he said at last. "I suppose the most important for you to hear is that I do not fancy myself a shepherd, having better things to do with my time and not wishing to be bound by the role."

It took Hermetia a moment to pick apart the metaphor, not because she was at all slow in such tasks, but because the answer was so enormous that she could not believe he said it almost idly. 'Being a god would limit me.' I'm definitely not that strange, she thought, struggling to constrain a nervous giggle.

"Mortals are so enamored with their free will," Amala mused. "It never ceases to amaze me how they have two legs but would walk six paths at once. Is it not better to refine oneself by that singular fire than burns in the depths of each soul?"

"Perhaps if one knew the end of all paths and could choose them from the start in full confidence of their end, but that would require knowledge above the gods from the start of one's journey," King Viserys replied with an almost self-deprecating smile. "Better I have found to leave room to change, to grow and to decide along the path than to bind one's self to it like an ox to his furrow."

"Such a strange veil you see existence through, but one that has led you far," the Fiend allowed. "I will meditate upon this and the purpose of the rest of your laws as soon as I find a place fitting for the task."

"What exactly are you looking for, my lady?" Hermetia interjected, choosing to err on the side of more courtesy when it came to Fiends of unknown nature.

"A place once raised to the fleeting glories of the divine now desolate so that one might hear the secrets in the silence," came the reply as one of the three faces turned to her in askance, as though surprised she had dared to speak.

Hermetia had encountered that expression more times than she could count. She would not be so lightly deterred. "Then perhaps somewhere on the Gilded Quarters? Even with reconstruction gaining ever more ground there there are still temples left abandoned, a few fallen into possession of the city due to unpaid taxes. If you are willing to take one of them off my hands I would sell it cheaply."

The head that had been addressing her nodded, a gleam of interest in its eyes, then speaking through her rightmost face the Fiend asked of the King: "And how much coin is my fealty worth for a beginning, then?"

"Five-thousand marks, for a beginning," he replied, a generous offer but one clearly not open to anymore haggling.

The Fiend bowed as she accepted the small chest the King produced from the folds of his cloak. Hermetia could not say if the gesture was beautiful, disturbing or both, but she did breathe a small sigh of relief once she was gone.

"Do you have a parchment and quill?" the King asked unexpectedly, looking again far more like the boy she had first seen at the Feast of the Crossing years ago.

"I have better. You gave him to me, Your Grace," Hermetia replied as Inksnatcher, her diminutive Calligraphy Wyrm, flowed out over the desk in search of parchment.

"Excellent," he nodded. "Could you mark down a few divinatory answers? They are a bit difficult to remember when one is casting the spell and I think it is a good idea that I do it. Amala's kind are naturally veiled from foresight and farsight to a degree, which would make it difficult for the seers of the House of Mirrors to track."

Thankfully the answers all showed that the Fiend, whom the King named a sort of Asura, had been truthful in all her words and did not intend treachery. Yet Lys still had plenty of troubles of its own.

"Will you be staying to help deal with the matter of the Goblin Market, Your Grace?" Hermetia asked, not a little tempted to join in on the investigation herself if he did.

[] Write in answer

OOC: The vote feels a little odd there at the end, but the alternative would have been to have a short update from Viserys' PoV that would have been basically all filler and retreading the same ground. The question here is not just yes or no to the investigation, but what to do next.
 
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Helping with the Goblin Market probably entails going to Malaris and Glyra and get briefed on the status first, I'd say.
 
Honestly, I liked seeing out Companions handle it more than I would want to do so myself, you know?
The interludes were great! The intrigue! The interesting plots! Don't you want to see them handle it?

What's the alternative? What's next on the schedule, @egoo?
 
Of Veils and Visions

Twenty Sixth Day of the Tenth Month 293 AC

Hermetia Aerebalys had never been particularly tempted by a conjurer's arts in her time in the Scholarum. It was hard enough reading the desires of ordinary mortal people and making use of them in places they would not resent nor grow restless in, nevermind deathless spirits from beyond the borders of the world. But the vaerosiea of Tempest Isle was nothing if not curious, a fact that had lead her through the many strange sorrows and joys of her life and so when the king appeared in Lys without warning, as he was wont to do as far as his dominions stretched and beyond, she asked to see a binding.

Now here she was staring at a being that had not been in any of her books, if this Amala truly was one and not three joined in some eternal dance of flesh as it bargained over service to the Dragon King. I'll have to ask Erisiel more about her sort, Hermetia noted. A faint chill ran down her spine, though there was no breeze in the room. Keeping company with devils and thinking nothing of it. Do I seem as otherworldly to others as King Viserys does to me?

If she were being honest, the young vaerosiea had always thought of her time in Sorcerer's Deep and later in Lys as preparing herself for a grand adventure in foreign lands that she had once only dreamed of while running her fingers over the cracked parchment of old maps. What if for some I am the strange and far off thing they glimpse only once in their lifetime? She wondered, again remembering the awed almost frightened looks she glimpsed in the eyes of provincial magisters come to ask some aid or judgement passed. She had always thought what they feared was the iron fist of the legion that had brought an end to Aedon's Folly...

"This law of yours protects gods and the sheep who mindlessly follow in their wake?" The fiend's leading question started Hermetia from her thoughts. "Why not dispense with the gods and keep all the wool, milk, and flesh for yourself?"

For a long moment the king was silent. "It is not that I do not have an answer, but that I have so many I do not know which to give first," he said at last. "I suppose the most important for you to hear is that I do not fancy myself a shepherd, having better things to do with my time and not wishing to bound by the role."

It took Hermetia a moment to pick apart the metaphor, not because she was at all slow in such tasks, but because the answer was so enormous that she could not believe he said it almost idly. 'Being a god would limit me.' I'm definitely not that strange, she thought, struggling to constrain a nervous giggle.

"Mortals are so enamored of their free will," Amala mused. "It never ceases to amaze me how they who have but two legs would walk six paths at once. Is it not better to refine oneself by that singular fire than burns in the depths of each soul?"

"Perhaps if one knew the end of all paths and could choose them from the start in full confidence of their end, but that would require knowledge above the gods from the start of one's journey," King Viserys replied with an almost self-deprecating smile. "Better, I have found, to leave room to change, to grow and to decide along the path than to bind one's self to it like an ox to his furrow."

"Such a strange veil you see existence through, but one that has lead you far," the fiend allowed. "I will meditate upon this and the purpose of the rest of your laws as soon as I find a place fitting for the task."

"What exactly are you looking for, my lady?" Hermetia interjected, choosing to err on the side of more courtesy when it came to fiends of unknown nature.

"A place once raised to the fleeting glories of the divine, now desolate that one might hear the secrets in the silence," came the reply as one of the three faces turned to her in askance, as though surprised she had dared to speak.

Hermetia had encountered that expression more times than she could count. She would not be so lightly deterred. "Then perhaps somewhere on the Gilded Quarters? Even with reconstruction gaining ever more ground, there are still temples left abandoned, a few fallen into possession of the city due to unpaid taxes. If you are willing to take one of them off my hands I would sell it cheaply."

The head that had been adressing her nodded, a gleam of interest in its eyes. Then speaking through her right-most face, the fiend asked of the king: "And how much coin if my fealty worth for a beginning then?"

"Five thousand marks, for a beginning," he replied, a generous offer but one clearly not open to anymore haggling.

The fiend bowed as she accepted the small chest the king produced from the folds of his cloak. Hermetia could not say if the gesture was beautiful, disturbing, or both, but she did breathe a small sight of relief once she was gone.

"Do you have a parchment and quill?" the king asked unexpectedly, looking again far more like the boy she had first seen at the Feast of the Crossing years ago.

"I have better, you gave it to me, Your Grace," Hermetia replied as Inksnatcher her diminutive golden assistant flowed out over the desk in search of parchment.

"Excellent," he nodded. "Could you mark down a few divinatory answers? They are a bit difficult to remember when one is casting the spell and I think it is a good idea that I do it. Amala's kind are naturally veiled from foresight and farsight to a degree, which would make it difficult for the seers of the House of Mirrors to track."

Thankfully, the answers all showed that the fiend, whom the king named a sort of asura, had been truthful in all her words and did not intend treachery. Yet Lys still had plenty of troubles of its own.

"Will you be staying to help deal with the matter of the Goblin Market, Your Grace?" Hermetia asked, not a little tempted to join in on the investigation herself if he did.

[] Write in answer

OOC: The vote feels a little odd there at the end, but the alternative would have been to have a short update from Viserys' PoV that would have been basically all filler and retreading the same ground. The question here is not just yes or no to the investigation, but what to do next. Not yet edited.
Made some edits to the chapter, DP.

Haha, Hermetia, welcome to the big leagues.
 
Honestly, I liked seeing out Companions handle it more than I would want to do so myself, you know?
The interludes were great! The intrigue! The interesting plots! Don't you want to see them handle it?

What's the alternative? What's next on the schedule, @egoo?
We are actually done with everything we had slated for Viserys to do personally - we but need a few reports on minor actions.

Why doing this is important? well, we pulled people off it in the middle of the task, impending it mechanically.

We kinda have to have it done this month, too, so going personally seems the way to go.

I don't mind leaving it to coMpanions, but my desire to see it done overweights that to see them do it :/
 
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