I just realized something.

We've been clowning on the Brazen Throne every month in huge, audacious attacks... and suddenly the Sultana and the Sultan in Earth and Air's political and diplomatic overtures and shell games make a lot more sense.

Yeah, as a political entity, we're more of a "resource", but we're also hilariously hypercompetent, always showing up in the right place and at the right time, to the point where both of the Genie Empires spymasters and Inquisition equivalents go "WTF?!" And then play it off like "yes, we were aware of it the whole time, good work, haha!"

It's fucking hilarious.
We've benefited greatly from being something of an OOC problem for the Efreeti. We're in a place that's difficult for them to reach in large numbers, while their age old enemies are applying constant military and economic pressure that forces them to expend their efforts or be overrun in short order. We've caused incredible damage, but at the same time we don't really register as a true threat, merely a dangerous one which can be dealt with in the fulness of time, once the Shaitan and Djinni are put in their place.

I expect that to change dramatically following the raid on the City of Brass and the Living Brass forges in a few months. Hopefully, the results of that raid, and our ritual to destroy Living Brass, will put the Efreeti in such shambles that we aren't an immediate target for retaliation while the Shaitain and Djinni capitalize on the opportunity.
 
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In Planar terms they're established and entrenched political/governmental entities with an expansive and interdependent system of processes and efficiencies to exercise their will.

We are essentially Guerilla fighters deep in the Hungry Jungle.

Results have been as expected.
 
We've benefited greatly from being something of an OOC problem for the Efreeti. We're in a place that's difficult for them to reach in large numbers, while their age old enemies are applying constant military and economic pressure that forces them to expend their efforts or be overrun in short order. We've caused incredible damage, but at the same time we don't really register as a true threat, merely a dangerous one which can be dealt with in the fulness of time, once the Shaitan and Djinni are put in their place.

I expect that to change dramatically following the raid on the City of Brass and the Living Brass forges in a few months. Hopefully, the results of that raid, and our ritual to destroy Living Brass, will put the Efreeti in such shambles that we aren't an immediate target for retaliation while the Shaitain and Djinni capitalize on the opportunity.
You realize of course what will set them into shambles will be defeating the fuck-off huge ass army they divert to halt our ritual, right? Since the absence of that entire battlegroup from the Frontlines will obviously be taken advantage of ruthlessly.
 
In Planar terms they're established and entrenched political/governmental entities with an expansive and interdependent system of processes and efficiencies to exercise their will.

We are essentially Guerilla fighters deep in the Hungry Jungle.

Results have been as expected.
Actually, results have exceeded all expectations. :V
 
We've benefited greatly from being something of an OOC problem for the Efreeti. We're in a place that's difficult for them to reach in large numbers, while their age old enemies are applying constant military and economic pressure that forces them to expend their efforts or be overrun in short order. We've caused incredible damage, but at the same time we don't really register as a true threat, merely a dangerous one which can be dealt with in the fulness of time, once the Shaitan and Djinni are put in their place.

I expect that to change dramatically following the raid on the City of Brass and the Living Brass forges in a few months. Hopefully, the results of that raid, and our ritual to destroy Living Brass, will put the Efreeti in such shambles that we aren't an immediate target for retaliation while the Shaitain and Djinni capitalize on the opportunity.
We are basically showing the Efreet what epic level champions and God like beings are worth when your enemies have "eh, close enough" champions and can afford to fight you on 3 different fronts.

So this is how we win the war in the upper planes, not by being superior to the Illithids ourselves, but by freeing potential allies from one battlefield and then snowballing our other enemies.

After we defeat the Sultan, we convince the Sultana and the Djinn to join us in the next war, reinforce the Gith and slowly erode the Illithid away, then get the Gith to help us against Baator in heaven's shore and so on.

I like, power of friendship and all that, divide and conquer.
 
We are basically showing the Efreet what epic level champions and God like beings are worth when your enemies have "eh, close enough" champions and can afford to fight you on 3 different fronts.

So this is how we win the war in the upper planes, not by being superior to the Illithids ourselves, but by freeing potential allies from one battlefield and then snowballing our other enemies.

After we defeat the Sultan, we convince the Sultana and the Djinn to join us in the next war, reinforce the Gith and slowly erode the Illithid away, then get the Gith to help us against Baator in heaven's shore and so on.

I like, power of friendship and all that, divide and conquer.
I'm particularly looking forward to that. DP said that once the Efreeti were dealt with in full, the Shaitan and Djinn would stand by us and turn their gazes to the Void.
 
I'm particularly looking forward to that. DP said that once the Efreeti were dealt with in full, the Shaitan and Djinn would stand by us and turn their gazes to the Void.
Do you think we could spin it as "Getting rid of the Tyranny of the Sultan", "Liberators of the City of Brass" and "Re-forgers of the accord (Or whatever the ancient alliance of genies was called)" and add Efreet troops to that?
 
Do you think we could spin it as "Getting rid of the Tyranny of the Sultan", "Liberators of the City of Brass" and "Re-forgers of the accord (Or whatever the ancient alliance of genies was called)" and add Efreet troops to that?
I believe a big, big part of taking the City of Brass is going to be figuring out how the hell to cleanse the Infernal taint from the Efreeti. At the end of the day they were corrupted when the city was temporarily shoved into Hell.
 
I believe a big, big part of taking the City of Brass is going to be figuring out how the hell to cleanse the Infernal taint from the Efreeti. At the end of the day they were corrupted when the city was temporarily shoved into Hell.
Did we learn that when they told us about the "all 3 elements lived in harmony" or just part of the general lore of the city of brass?
 
Did we learn that when they told us about the "all 3 elements lived in harmony" or just part of the general lore of the city of brass?
Just going off of this:
Geniekind and the Lost City of Gold

In ages past Shaitan, Djinn, and Efreeti dwelt in what would become the City of Brass though its towers were not brass but gleaming gold. Only the tricksome Marid shunned it and made their home instead upon the waves, and perhaps rightly so for in time the jewel of the three kindreds became the seed of strife. It was said that then Iblis the Accursed whose lusts burned like dark fire for a maiden of the Djinn, masters of air, brought strife to those lands and in his rage was the first to spill the blood of his kindred upon the streets that gleamed of black marble under a warm sun. Then did the pasha of the Shaitans, hearing the call of defiled stone, rise forth to protect the peace of the land, but such was the wrath of the lord of flames that it consumed all before him, even the object of his unwholesome desire.

Thus did the Djinn flee to the heavens, mourning their lost maiden and her kin and the Shaitan marched from the city in grim silence, for they thought without earth to sustain it and air to fan it the flame of Iblis would surely die. Alas that they did not contend with the depravity that the dark sultan could sink to in his madness. In the depths of hell he forged profane pacts and the City of Gold was drawn into the realms of fire, its bright spires tarnishing to brass forevermore. From that day the Shaitans vowed that they would take back the tainted halls and thus did they settle near the borders of the flame upon the great geode into which were carved deep mines and upon which were built glided towers... not yet so beautiful as what was lost, but in such echoes does hope abide.

Three centuries past the Efreeti entered into the vault in secret and worked great evil, maiming and slaying as Iblis of old and the Sultan that was rode out with his host to meet them in battle. Alas that their treachery had not all been brought to light and through enchantment and foulest death magics they slew him. Ever since that day the Sultana, his daughter, said that there would be no more raids and the moving of pawns across the board... but instead true war to the knife. She vowed that she would not lay down her mourning veils nor wed until the head of her father's true killer would adorn her wedding feast.
Our ultimate win condition is turning it into the City of Gold again.
 
Just going off of this:

Our ultimate win condition is turning it into the City of Gold again.

That says the city was drawn into the Plane of Fire not Hell.

Might get DP to edit it as it's a bit clunky towards the end.

Iblis and the Sultana's father was assassinated by Efreeti?
Just one or the other?
 
That says the city was drawn into the Plane of Fire not Hell.

Might get DP to edit it as it's a bit clunky towards the end.

Iblis and the Sultana's father was assassinated by Efreeti?
Just one or the other?
That does need to be edited, yes. The City of Gold used to be where the City of Brass is now, it just got corrupted after the sultan of the time moved the entire city to hell for a while and corrupted the Efreeti in the process.
 
That does need to be edited, yes. The City of Gold used to be where the City of Brass is now, it just got corrupted after the sultan of the time moved the entire city to hell for a while and corrupted the Efreeti in the process.

Should edit that part as well then, "realms of fire" does not evoke Hell in this context.
 
Omake: In Steel Clad
As DP said, if anything with his new found freedom he is conspiring to corrupt them into neutrality.

Yrael: "And this is a cat"
Mereth: "That seems a bit too fluffy for our tastes"
Yrael: "Yes, they make cute sounds when you scratch them behind the ears, and if they feel you are sad they come and lie at your feet"
Mereth: "Yeah, I think we don't want anything to.."
Yrael : "They also capture and torture smaller animals for fun and bring you their mangled bodies while you sleep"

Erynyes: "Aaaaawwww"

In Steel Clad

Yrael watched the glorious fruit of his hard work, the pride of a work well done was no stranger to him, the restoration of Mantarys, the redemption of cultists, the slaying of enemies, this world had brought many opportunities, but he could not deny that there was something special about what he was witnessing.

"Look at its fluffy tail! *swoons*, come Mr Pawbringer the defiler, kill something for me!"
"Who is going to bring momma the broken corpses of your enemies?, you will yes you will you little widdle murder machine"



The Erynies were fawning over their new pet, good, that would help them break from the lies they had been hanging on for so long, that as much as care beget weakness on the hearts of the weak, it only served to steel the wills of the strong, and they were strong, and thus could no longer hold onto lies, as he had for so long.

Phase 1 of operation Updraft was complete.

Soon, they would see, there was no purpose on holding to either lofty ideals or to squander in pathetic self interest, it had taken him an embarrassing long time but now his eyes were open and it was thus his responsibility to help others see, always his responsibility, such a heavy burden, to know both his comrades and his enemies struggled, like blind animals swimming against an uncaring stream, holding for dear life unto whatever lies had been imposed upon them by others.

But there was no higher truth to hold onto, a truth vilified both by the golden archons upon their shattered thrones and by the blood-red devils in their dark halls, one claimed that abandoning ideals inevitably lead to corruption, other that straying from the will of the mighty would throw the world into chaos, fools and cowards both of them. If you knew, deep in your heart what needed to be done there was no shame, no weakness, no temptation in doing what needed to be done.

The blood of enemies had nurtered the trees that now sheltered the weak, the kindness to strangers raised the unbreakable will and steel-clad arms of the legions, forgiven enemies now stood as Companions, seduced rivals now managed the King's cities. Kindness and ruthlessness working together in harmony, weaving something grander that each could build separately.

As his brothers worked to restore some semblance of order, to free ancient champions of good, as his enemies worked to rise ancient evils from their tombs, His Liege has unearthed ancient neutrals, Gods for whom a days prayers earned a days miracles, for whom blood spilled was as coin upon a merchants hand, trustworthy and reliable as none other could claim, was that not a goal worth reaching for?

His brothers would see in time, he could shelter them a little more from the truth, but their arms were needed, his other awakened brother would see to it.

Operation Name Pending would succeed as well, shame that the name Perpendicular Cha-Cha-Cha had to be rejected after they realized it could be misinterpreted, still, its spirit lived on.

Yrael had suffered from the softness of Gold, and witnessed the pointless cruelty of Hell-forged metal, he had rejected both, soon the world would see the glory of pure, gleaming unblemished Steel.
Or break under it.

"Muahahahaha"

"Did you say something Yrael?"

"Nothing immediately relevant my liege"
 
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In Steel Clad

Yrael watched the glorious fruit of his hard work, the pride of a work well done was no stranger to him, the restoration of Mantarys, the redemption of cultists, the slaying of enemies, this world had brought many opportunities, but he could not deny that there was something special about what he was witnessing.

"Look at its fluffy tail! *swoons*, come Mr Pawbringer the defiler, kill something for me!"
"Who is going to bring momma the broken corpses of your enemies?, you will yes you will you little widdle murder machine"



The Erynies were fawning over their new pet, good, that would help them break from the lies they had been hanging on for so long, that as much as care beget weakness on the hearts of the weak, it only served to steel the wills of the strong, and they were strong, and thus could no longer hold onto lies, as he had for so long.

Phase 1 of operation Updraft was complete.

Soon, they would see, there was no purpose on holding to either lofty ideals or to squander in pathetic self interest, it had taken him an embarrassing long time but now his eyes were open and it was thus his responsibility to help others see, always his responsibility, such a heavy burden, to know both his comrades and his enemies struggled, like blind animals swimming against an uncaring stream, holding for dear life unto whatever lies had been imposed upon them by others.

But there was no higher truth to hold onto, a truth vilified both by the golden archons upon their shattered thrones and by the blood-red devils in their dark halls, one claimed that abandoning ideals inevitably lead to corruption, other that straying from the will of the mighty would throw the world into chaos, fools and cowards both of them. If you knew, deep in your heart what needed to be done there was no shame, no weakness, no temptation in doing what needed to be done.

The blood of enemies had nurtered the trees that now sheltered the weak, the kindness to strangers raised the unbreakable will and steel-clad arms of the legions, forgiven enemies now stood as Companions, seduced rivals now managed the King's cities. Kindness and ruthlessness working together in harmony, weaving something grander that each could build separately.

As his brothers worked to restore some semblance of order, to free ancient champions of good, as his enemies worked to rise ancient evils from their tombs, His Liege has unearthed ancient neutrals, Gods for whom a days prayers earned a days miracles, for whom blood spilled was as coin upon a merchants hand, trustworthy and reliable as none other could claim, was that not a goal worth reaching for?

His brothers would see in time, he could shelter them a little more from the truth, but their arms were needed, his other awakened brother would see to it.

Operation Name Pending would succeed as well, shame that the name Perpendicular Cha-Cha-Cha had to be rejected after they realized it could be misinterpreted, still, its spirit lived on.

Yrael had suffered from the softness of Gold, and witnessed the pointless cruelty of Hell-forged metal, he had rejected both, soon the world would see the glory of pure, gleaming unblemished Steel.
Or break under it.

"Muahahahaha"

"Did you say anything Yrael?"

"Nothing immediately relevant my liege"

You could remove about 7% of this and I'd believe it canon in a few months.
 
In Steel Clad

Yrael watched the glorious fruit of his hard work, the pride of a work well done was no stranger to him, the restoration of Mantarys, the redemption of cultists, the slaying of enemies, this world had brought many opportunities, but he could not deny that there was something special about what he was witnessing.

"Look at its fluffy tail! *swoons*, come Mr Pawbringer the defiler, kill something for me!"
"Who is going to bring momma the broken corpses of your enemies?, you will yes you will you little widdle murder machine"



The Erynies were fawning over their new pet, good, that would help them break from the lies they had been hanging on for so long, that as much as care beget weakness on the hearts of the weak, it only served to steel the wills of the strong, and they were strong, and thus could no longer hold onto lies, as he had for so long.

Phase 1 of operation Updraft was complete.

Soon, they would see, there was no purpose on holding to either lofty ideals or to squander in pathetic self interest, it had taken him an embarrassing long time but now his eyes were open and it was thus his responsibility to help others see, always his responsibility, such a heavy burden, to know both his comrades and his enemies struggled, like blind animals swimming against an uncaring stream, holding for dear life unto whatever lies had been imposed upon them by others.

But there was no higher truth to hold onto, a truth vilified both by the golden archons upon their shattered thrones and by the blood-red devils in their dark halls, one claimed that abandoning ideals inevitably lead to corruption, other that straying from the will of the mighty would throw the world into chaos, fools and cowards both of them. If you knew, deep in your heart what needed to be done there was no shame, no weakness, no temptation in doing what needed to be done.

The blood of enemies had nurtered the trees that now sheltered the weak, the kindness to strangers raised the unbreakable will and steel-clad arms of the legions, forgiven enemies now stood as Companions, seduced rivals now managed the King's cities. Kindness and ruthlessness working together in harmony, weaving something grander that each could build separately.

As his brothers worked to restore some semblance of order, to free ancient champions of good, as his enemies worked to rise ancient evils from their tombs, His Liege has unearthed ancient neutrals, Gods for whom a days prayers earned a days miracles, for whom blood spilled was as coin upon a merchants hand, trustworthy and reliable as none other could claim, was that not a goal worth reaching for?

His brothers would see in time, he could shelter them a little more from the truth, but their arms were needed, his other awakened brother would see to it.

Operation Name Pending would succeed as well, shame that the name Perpendicular Cha-Cha-Cha had to be rejected after they realized it could be misinterpreted, still, its spirit lived on.

Yrael had suffered from the softness of Gold, and witnessed the pointless cruelty of Hell-forged metal, he had rejected both, soon the world would see the glory of pure, gleaming unblemished Steel.
Or break under it.

"Muahahahaha"

"Did you say something Yrael?"

"Nothing immediately relevant my liege"

Yrael: "Now we initiate the final phase of my master plan... Mereth, fetch me the file for Phase Updog."

Mereth: "What?"

Yrael: "Youknowupdog...?"

Mereth, brow furrowing: "What is updog?"

Yrael: 😂

Mereth: "--oh--for fuck's sake!"
 
Great job on Tyrion's characterization @Crake I've always struggled with him since he is so finely balanced between humor and bitterness and it's easy to make him unlikable, but you pulled it off beautifully. One could read the legitimate worry behind the cynical jokes even while they landed

Very funny omake as always @das_slash, though sadely I don't think Yrael will ever reach quite those heights of naming skill. :V
 
I was thinking the same, a bit over the top, but fundamentally where Yrael is/is going.
I don't think it represented Yrael all that well, he still loves good, he has just concluded that pure good isn't strong enough by itself, and so has taken it upon himself, to make the moral compromises necessary to ensure evil don't win, he don't want all to be neutral, he has just been convinced, that committing 1 sin to prevent a 100 is something he should be doing.

Basically in an ideal world for him all would be good, but this is not an ideal world at all, there's much more evil than good, so if it get rid of a lot of evil, using a little evil is a hard but necessary choice.
 
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