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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Snowfire said:
You're going to like part of the finale.
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Speaking of the finale here's an image that just popped into my head regarding Viserys' first meeting with Nicodemus Archleone

Nic: Villain Monologue

Viserys *in a bored tone, looking at a point sightly behind and above Nicodemus' head*: Tell me Anduriel, do you derive some perverse enjoyment seeing others converse with your meat-puppet?

I imagine that when adding epic level diplomacy spell that has at least a small chance of getting old Nic to make a mistake proving he is not a puppet.
 
Snowfire said:
This would also require a connection to the Old Gods, which isn't present.
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Mmmm. You know.

I guess the Old God's would have a hard time getting rooted, what with them all supposed to be being connected.

I mean there's a BUNCH of other problems with it.

But now I can't stop imagining Viserys carrying around potting soil for on the spot Weirwoods.
 
zxzx24 said:
Mmmm. You know.

I guess the Old God's would have a hard time getting rooted, what with them all supposed to be being connected.

I mean there's a BUNCH of other problems with it.

But now I can't stop imagining Viserys carrying around potting soil for on the spot Weirwoods.
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That's something I'm going to be making sure we do in the future. You never know when you might need some immediate gardening.
 
"You're going to have to be a lot scarier than a Lord of the Nine Hells before you'll have me pay attention to even a third of this villainous monologue."
 
DragonParadox said:
Well yes, they are after all trees. They are very slow to blood or give fruit so if you did not have a small forest of them it would be quite hard to get seeds.
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I am now very, very happy we exploited the ritual growth of the Tree of the Dawn Age to the fullest extent.

@DragonParadox
1. Can we assume our Leshys and Treants patrol and nurture all copses of rare trees for us so we can harvest them without fear of sabotage?
2. Is there an extraplanar market for said rare wood that we can begin to exploit? Waterwood in particular.
 
Is weirwood fruit usually edible? (That is when we haven't specifically asked for edible super fruit) what does it taste like?
 
Duesal said:
I am now very, very happy we exploited the ritual growth of the Tree of the Dawn Age to the fullest extent.

@DragonParadox
1. Can we assume our Leshys and Treants patrol and nurture all copses of rare trees for us so we can harvest them without fear of sabotage?
2. Is there an extraplanar market for said rare wood that we can begin to exploit? Waterwood in particular.
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  1. In part but you also have human forestry for that, one of your company deals in rare woods
  2. Probably but that would be on the plane of Water.
 
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Snowfire said:
Something slams against your soul in that moment, too possessed of intent to just be the spell, and you feel the Conqueror's Crown burn cold against your scalp
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We've robbed an Elder Evil of his lunch money just the other day, and that was after he jumped us in a soul fight.

Cthulhu didn't cut it, a Psionic God got burned when it tried to take us in a mind fight.

So come and get it, I say.
Snowfire said:
Horde Thief
Chapter 49
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I will be honest, I haven't liked Viserys' portrayal these last chapters. He seems on a hair-trigger.

Viserys doesn't do roaring rampages of revenge. He does methodical rampages of revenge.

It's very, very rare to get his blood to really boil, because he's been struggling from day one to contain exactly that. Because once it does boil, he is the Red Dragon who invented the stock trade, he won't just fuck you over, he will ruin you.

So I figure you have to get both of his sides to be tremendously angry.
Snowfire said:
Whilst a good idea, this isn't going to be needed. The ritual going off here is draining people all over the planet, yes. But it's not causing drain to those around the ritual itself. That would, well, defeat the point of being able to defend it. Thank you, though!
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Still a good precaution.
Duesal said:
Could it really bypass his +1 Soulfire Mithral Bracers? He walks around with a constant Death Ward at all times.
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Things like gods of X can probably ignore simple immunity to X.

However, Veil of Undeath is a smart move in that you don't get simple immunity, you heal from it.

For example, even we couldn't burn the Harbinger, as he heals from fire damage, which means he isn't immune to it, he takes it full on and it just works differentky for him.

So when this angel of death fellow comes knocking, healing from his attacks sounds like a great deal.
Snowfire said:
As for Maggie? Stasis won't really work, she's still alive in there. The only response likely to function is Flesh to Stone, and good luck convincing Harry to do that until it's last resort time given, um, Aurora.
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I'm doubtful, because he can take some random animal and petrify and de-petrify it in front of him. Perhaps even lay a contingency on, say, Karin, so that if she hugs the statue it casts Stone to Flesh.
Artemis1992 said:
He even could have watered one with the blood in that cup (grail?).

Even though it wasn't filled with sacrifices we would consider acceptable, it's still filled with lots of lifeblood, that shouldn't just go to waste.
Just like the Listener's gathered power.

If Viserys does manage to interrupt that ritual he could really do something FUN with all that energy.
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Isn't it obvious?

Turn into a dragon and chug it.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Apr 26, 2019 at 2:38 PM, finished with 72 posts and 12 votes.
  • [X] Agree
    -[X] You did not plan to attack or provoke Lucan in this place and at this time. If he should somehow find out about our presence and start a fight over it we will answer in kind, but we'll do our best to avoid such an outcome
    [X] If Baelor seems willing to share after our revelations, ask him the following questions;
    -[X] What can he tell us in detail about the various disasters that have plagued Oldtown since magic's awakenings? This is asking for a brief chronological history of the disasters and how each one was resolved.
    --[X] In particular what can he tell us of what he knows about the Deep Ones' incursions?
    ---[X] What kinds have been spotted?
    ---[X] Does he know who leads various branches?
    ---[X] Does he have knowledge of where various fortresses are located?
    ---[X] What active plots is he aware of?
    -[X] Aside from the Lantern Bearers and the heroes on Greyshield, are there any other notables in the Reach who have shown the strength to stand against the dark?
    -[X] Regarding the Court of Stars, what fey princes is he aware of he operate within his territory, and what is their disposition? (alongside basic questions on loot, deeds, known pacts, etc.)
    -[X] What can he tell us about the Underdark entrance under the Hightower?
    --[X] What creatures lurk there? How strong are they?
    --[X] What threat of invasion is there?
    -[X] Ask about the Lantern Bearers
    --[X] Ask for more details on their general makeup, their numbers, the strength of their members (what class they have), what equipment they have, etc.
    --[X] Ask what aid the Lantern Bearers would like. Hypothetical for the moment since you need to determine what you can spare, but the organization does good work, and the Deep Ones are enemies to all.
    --[X] Out of curiosity, where did his Mind Blank come from?
    -[X] What can he tell us about Danelle and Lucan? Spies and divinations are best complemented by personal impressions.
    [X] Azel
    [X] Agree
    -[X] You did not plan to attack or provoke Lucan in this place and at this time. If he should somehow find out about our presence and start a fight over it we will answer in kind, but we'll do our best to avoid such an outcome
    [X] If Baelor seems willing to share after our revelations, ask him the following questions;
    -[X] What can he tell us in detail about the various disasters that have plagued Oldtown since magic's awakenings? This is asking for a brief chronological history of the disasters and how each one was resolved.
    --[X] In particular what can he tell us of what he knows about the Deep Ones' incursions?
    ---[X] What kinds have been spotted?
    ---[X] Does he know who leads various branches?
    ---[X] Does he have knowledge of where various fortresses are located?
    ---[X] What active plots is he aware of?
    -[X] Aside from the Lantern Bearers and the heroes on Greyshield, are there any other notables in the Reach who have shown the strength to stand against the dark?
    -[X] Regarding the Court of Stars, what fey princes is he aware of he operate within his territory, and what is their disposition? (alongside basic questions on loot, deeds, known pacts, etc.)
    -[X] What can he tell us about the Underdark entrance under the Hightower?
    --[X] What creatures lurk there? How strong are they?
    --[X] What threat of invasion is there?
    -[X] Ask about the Lantern Bearers
    --[X] Ask for more details on their general makeup, their numbers, the strength of their members (what class they have), what equipment they have, etc.
    --[X] Ask what aid the Lantern Bearers would like. Hypothetical for the moment since you need to determine what you can spare, but the organization does good work, and the Deep Ones are enemies to all.
    --[X] Out of curiosity, where did his Mind Blank come from?
    -[X] What can he tell us about Danelle and Lucan? Spies and divinations are best complemented by personal impressions.
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Apr 26, 2019 at 2:39 PM, finished with 73 posts and 12 votes.
  • [X] Agree
    -[X] You did not plan to attack or provoke Lucan in this place and at this time. If he should somehow find out about our presence and start a fight over it we will answer in kind, but we'll do our best to avoid such an outcome
    [X] If Baelor seems willing to share after our revelations, ask him the following questions;
    -[X] What can he tell us in detail about the various disasters that have plagued Oldtown since magic's awakenings? This is asking for a brief chronological history of the disasters and how each one was resolved.
    --[X] In particular what can he tell us of what he knows about the Deep Ones' incursions?
    ---[X] What kinds have been spotted?
    ---[X] Does he know who leads various branches?
    ---[X] Does he have knowledge of where various fortresses are located?
    ---[X] What active plots is he aware of?
    -[X] Aside from the Lantern Bearers and the heroes on Greyshield, are there any other notables in the Reach who have shown the strength to stand against the dark?
    -[X] Regarding the Court of Stars, what fey princes is he aware of he operate within his territory, and what is their disposition? (alongside basic questions on loot, deeds, known pacts, etc.)
    -[X] What can he tell us about the Underdark entrance under the Hightower?
    --[X] What creatures lurk there? How strong are they?
    --[X] What threat of invasion is there?
    -[X] Ask about the Lantern Bearers
    --[X] Ask for more details on their general makeup, their numbers, the strength of their members (what class they have), what equipment they have, etc.
    --[X] Ask what aid the Lantern Bearers would like. Hypothetical for the moment since you need to determine what you can spare, but the organization does good work, and the Deep Ones are enemies to all.
    --[X] Out of curiosity, where did his Mind Blank come from?
    -[X] What can he tell us about Danelle and Lucan? Spies and divinations are best complemented by personal impressions.
    [X] Azel
    [X] Agree
    -[X] You did not plan to attack or provoke Lucan in this place and at this time. If he should somehow find out about our presence and start a fight over it we will answer in kind, but we'll do our best to avoid such an outcome
    [X] If Baelor seems willing to share after our revelations, ask him the following questions;
    -[X] What can he tell us in detail about the various disasters that have plagued Oldtown since magic's awakenings? This is asking for a brief chronological history of the disasters and how each one was resolved.
    --[X] In particular what can he tell us of what he knows about the Deep Ones' incursions?
    ---[X] What kinds have been spotted?
    ---[X] Does he know who leads various branches?
    ---[X] Does he have knowledge of where various fortresses are located?
    ---[X] What active plots is he aware of?
    -[X] Aside from the Lantern Bearers and the heroes on Greyshield, are there any other notables in the Reach who have shown the strength to stand against the dark?
    -[X] Regarding the Court of Stars, what fey princes is he aware of he operate within his territory, and what is their disposition? (alongside basic questions on loot, deeds, known pacts, etc.)
    -[X] What can he tell us about the Underdark entrance under the Hightower?
    --[X] What creatures lurk there? How strong are they?
    --[X] What threat of invasion is there?
    -[X] Ask about the Lantern Bearers
    --[X] Ask for more details on their general makeup, their numbers, the strength of their members (what class they have), what equipment they have, etc.
    --[X] Ask what aid the Lantern Bearers would like. Hypothetical for the moment since you need to determine what you can spare, but the organization does good work, and the Deep Ones are enemies to all.
    --[X] Out of curiosity, where did his Mind Blank come from?
    -[X] What can he tell us about Danelle and Lucan? Spies and divinations are best complemented by personal impressions.
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TotallyNotEvil said:
I will be honest, I haven't liked Viserys' portrayal these last chapters. He seems on a hair-trigger.
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To be honest, the end of the last chapter was playing with things I probably shouldn't have. This one, however, as the scale became clear? Viserys has a hot button for the harming of children. It is perhaps the most powerful one he has, just below harm to his friends and family, in large part because (as I see it) it's grounded in that particular occasion that a Red Priest tried to take Dany and it's just steadily gotten worse from there. He also likes Harry and his family.

And this is quite probably the largest apocalypse that he's ever faced. Remember that this isn't a post-Long Night Viserys. There's a serious component of simple fear of failure in here, as he's facing something this large without any of his usual Companions to help him.

TotallyNotEvil said:
I'm doubtful, because he can take some random animal and petrify and de-petrify it in front of him. Perhaps even lay a contingency on, say, Karin, so that if she hugs the statue it casts Stone to Flesh.
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Rational actors humans are not. That contingency idea is really cool, though. I hadn't considered that.
 
DragonParadox said:
Well yes, they are after all trees. They are very slow to bloom or give fruit so if you did not have a small forest of them it would be quite hard to get seeds.
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I doubt it would be that hard, I'm sure the Old gods would be happy to pay us in Weirwood seeds for a sacrifice, if we ever needed a huge amount of them.

I mean it's their trees, don't tell me they can't make them sprout all the seeds they want.
 
Snowfire said:
To be honest, the end of the last chapter was playing with things I probably shouldn't have. This one, however, as the scale became clear? Viserys has a hot button for the harming of children. It is perhaps the most powerful one he has, just below harm to his friends and family, in large part because (as I see it) it's grounded in that particular occasion that a Red Priest tried to take Dany and it's just steadily gotten worse from there. He also likes Harry and his family.
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That's fair, but he arrived with roiling anger in his gut just from hearing Maggie was unwell.

While he is the type to take swift action, he is a bit more composed than teleporting mid-sentence without at least a "say no more".

For the petrification, he could readily allow them to test it. So the rational side should win out, as he assures himself that, yes, it works.
 
egoo said:
*cough* scholarum report *cough*
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I'm hesitant to leave you guys on a bunch of extra numbers overnight. Probably best to do one more update then the report in the morning

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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Apr 26, 2019 at 2:52 PM, finished with 78 posts and 12 votes.
  • [X] Agree
    -[X] You did not plan to attack or provoke Lucan in this place and at this time. If he should somehow find out about our presence and start a fight over it we will answer in kind, but we'll do our best to avoid such an outcome
    [X] If Baelor seems willing to share after our revelations, ask him the following questions;
    -[X] What can he tell us in detail about the various disasters that have plagued Oldtown since magic's awakenings? This is asking for a brief chronological history of the disasters and how each one was resolved.
    --[X] In particular what can he tell us of what he knows about the Deep Ones' incursions?
    ---[X] What kinds have been spotted?
    ---[X] Does he know who leads various branches?
    ---[X] Does he have knowledge of where various fortresses are located?
    ---[X] What active plots is he aware of?
    -[X] Aside from the Lantern Bearers and the heroes on Greyshield, are there any other notables in the Reach who have shown the strength to stand against the dark?
    -[X] Regarding the Court of Stars, what fey princes is he aware of he operate within his territory, and what is their disposition? (alongside basic questions on loot, deeds, known pacts, etc.)
    -[X] What can he tell us about the Underdark entrance under the Hightower?
    --[X] What creatures lurk there? How strong are they?
    --[X] What threat of invasion is there?
    -[X] Ask about the Lantern Bearers
    --[X] Ask for more details on their general makeup, their numbers, the strength of their members (what class they have), what equipment they have, etc.
    --[X] Ask what aid the Lantern Bearers would like. Hypothetical for the moment since you need to determine what you can spare, but the organization does good work, and the Deep Ones are enemies to all.
    --[X] Out of curiosity, where did his Mind Blank come from?
    -[X] What can he tell us about Danelle and Lucan? Spies and divinations are best complemented by personal impressions.
    [X] Azel
    [X] Agree
    -[X] You did not plan to attack or provoke Lucan in this place and at this time. If he should somehow find out about our presence and start a fight over it we will answer in kind, but we'll do our best to avoid such an outcome
    [X] If Baelor seems willing to share after our revelations, ask him the following questions;
    -[X] What can he tell us in detail about the various disasters that have plagued Oldtown since magic's awakenings? This is asking for a brief chronological history of the disasters and how each one was resolved.
    --[X] In particular what can he tell us of what he knows about the Deep Ones' incursions?
    ---[X] What kinds have been spotted?
    ---[X] Does he know who leads various branches?
    ---[X] Does he have knowledge of where various fortresses are located?
    ---[X] What active plots is he aware of?
    -[X] Aside from the Lantern Bearers and the heroes on Greyshield, are there any other notables in the Reach who have shown the strength to stand against the dark?
    -[X] Regarding the Court of Stars, what fey princes is he aware of he operate within his territory, and what is their disposition? (alongside basic questions on loot, deeds, known pacts, etc.)
    -[X] What can he tell us about the Underdark entrance under the Hightower?
    --[X] What creatures lurk there? How strong are they?
    --[X] What threat of invasion is there?
    -[X] Ask about the Lantern Bearers
    --[X] Ask for more details on their general makeup, their numbers, the strength of their members (what class they have), what equipment they have, etc.
    --[X] Ask what aid the Lantern Bearers would like. Hypothetical for the moment since you need to determine what you can spare, but the organization does good work, and the Deep Ones are enemies to all.
    --[X] Out of curiosity, where did his Mind Blank come from?
    -[X] What can he tell us about Danelle and Lucan? Spies and divinations are best complemented by personal impressions.
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TotallyNotEvil said:
However, Veil of Undeath is a smart move in that you don't get simple immunity, you heal from it.
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Thinking about it, this could be a very neat way or restoring what it has taken from Maggie, while he shows Dresden petrification can be undone by Karin, who should for obvious reasons stay back as this is so beyond her league it isn't even funny. And the need for Karrin to stay back and hug Maggie back from stone-ness should fall easily with Harry, as it's a ready and reasonable excuse for her to stay back.

So Veil of Undeath -> stop or reverse the damage -> dispel it just because wonky metaphysics are wonky -> petrify her at full health.

Or do a Greater Restoration and petrify her in the same instant through Celerity, either way, she should wake up without complications.
 
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TotallyNotEvil said:
That's fair, but he arrived with roiling anger in his gut just from hearing Maggie was unwell.

While he is the type to take swift action, he is a bit more composed than teleporting mid-sentence without at least a "say no more".

For the petrification, he could readily allow them to test it. So the rational side should win out, as he assures himself that, yes, it works.
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Harry said it was more than just Maggie before he teleported, but this is a fair point. My thanks. I'll try to be better about that going forward :)
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
Thinking about it, this could be a very neat way or restoring what it has taken from Maggie, while he shows Dresden petrification can be undone by Karin, who should for obvious reasons stay back as this is so beyond her league it isn't even funny. And the need for Karrin to stay back and hug Maggie back from stone-ness should fall easily with Harry, as it's a ready and reasonable excuse for her to stay back.

So Veil of Undeath -> stop or reverse the damage -> dispel it just because wonky metaphysics are wonky -> petrify her at full health.

Or do a Greater Restoration and petrify her in the same instant through Celerity, either way, she should wake up without complications.
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Veil of Undead has personal range, or I would have suggested that already.
 
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