@DragonParadox, I've been meaning to ask for a while now. So we've got these in stock, the originals, and we were intending to keep them this way so we could study them at the height of their power.
Brand of Winter

Description: Wrought of blue ice born of deepest winter, grown around the seed of a dying child's tear, these amulets hold great power and great cost, binding the fate of the bearer with that of Eternal Night.

Ability: The bearer gains Mettle and Evasion as bonus feats (takes no damage on successful Fortitude and Reflex saves where they would otherwise take half).

Special: Can only be used by Winter-Touched (UMD DC 35 to replicate). If it is worn by a non-Winter-Touched then it clings to them as a curse, and at midnight the next day after equipping the token the bearer must make a DC 22 Will save or fall under Winter's power.
How much would it take for either Rina alone or Rina with the help of Djinn allies to replicate the enchantment in full (Mettle + Evasion on the same ring)? How much progress would this project be?

With part of the project being that non-Winterborn people could safely use the rings, of course.

That is very likely impossible. Those rings work by drawing on the power of more than cold more than winter, they freeze the very soul and make it slip aside from magic like an echo of the void. One effect you could replicate, but not both.
 
And if Deep Slumber worked like that then it would be ongoing control, only one in which the caster could impose only one command 'sleep'. The fact that it takes continuous effort on the caster's part makes it control as opposed to imposing an altered state and leaving it like that.
That's a pretty weird reading of the word "ongoing" to be honest... o_O
That's ongoing casting, not an ongoing effect.

By that token, Command or Dominate are not ongoing.

I would greatly prefer to stick with the original ruling that PfE doesn't block the Lure and bury this whole thing. Or as a compromise, give a +2 on the save like the Pathfinder PfE in corner cases like this.
 
That is very likely impossible. Those rings work by drawing on the power of more than cold more than winter, they freeze the very soul and make it slip aside from magic like an echo of the void. One effect you could replicate, but not both.
Okay, but could they at least study how to replicate the Mettle effect so we can craft more of those? Evasion we can already do, but Mettle is new.
 
Since you are trying to figure out how to safely copy artifacts of malice and wholly alien power I would say something like 30 progress, probably better to hand it off to the Djinn, they would certainly like to know how to make such things too.
Oh, neat.
Finally we get to offload some Research onto other people!
Adding that to Minor Actions next month. Rina will handle those over.

...While we are on the topic, how, exactly, would asking Old Gods for help on Research work? You said we could ask them for such things on Nature/Magic-related matter...

Would they essentially act as a separate "Hero Unit" for Research Purposes, like Jazzirian?
Would they require sacrifice (and how much if yes) to work on something?
Would Others get some sort of free action from OGs looking through their deeeeep memory and sharing the results with us?
 
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Since you are trying to figure out how to safely copy artifacts of malice and wholly alien power I would say something like 30 progress, probably better to hand it off to the Djinn, they would certainly like to know how to make such things too.
Frankly I'm just happy it's possible at all. I will happily hand this off to the Djinn.
Oh, neat.
Finally we get to offload some Research onto other people!
I'm not sure where this is coming from considering we've already been doing it, starting with the Heart of Winter.
 
Oh, neat.
Finally we get to offload some Research onto other people!
Adding that to Minor Actions next month. Rina will handle those over.

Speaking about that, how, exactly, would asking Old Gods for help on Research work? You said we could ask them for such things on nature/magic related matter...

Would they act as a separate "Hero Unit" for Research Purposes, like Jazzirian?
Would they require sacrifice (and how much if yes) to work on something?
Would Others get some sort of free action from OGs looking through their deeeeep memory and sharing the results with us?

They certainly like you enough but the problem is the Old Gods do not have any researchers bar Bloodraven and he is one of the few people on the planet even more busy than Viserys.
 
Frankly I'm just happy it's possible at all. I will happily hand this off to the Djinn.

I'm not sure where this is coming from considering we've already been doing it, starting with the Heart of Winter.
Eh, mostly from me forgetting about that particular instance, and being in a constant state of (mild) depression over just how many RAs we have compared to how many we can reasonably do.

:/
 
@DragonParadox, would Drizzil be tempted to swear fealty to us if we set aside a piece of land for him and charge him with making a loyal fey court of all the Faerie Dragons you promised us? And also a small sum of gold of course. Every dragon needs a hoard.

And in the meantime we manipulate the stories to make all the Faerie Dragons irrevocably bound to the Imperium.
 
@DragonParadox, would Drizzil be tempted to swear fealty to us if we set aside a piece of land for him and charge him with making a loyal fey court of all the Faerie Dragons you promised us? And also a small sum of gold of course. Every dragon needs a hoard.

And in the meantime we manipulate the stories to make all the Faerie Dragons irrevocably bound to the Imperium.
Maybe try talking to her first before binding her whole species to our service?
Seems kinda polite that way.
 
Maybe try talking to her first before binding her whole species to our service?
Seems kinda polite that way.
Wait, is Drizzil a her or a him? Depending on the answer I'm going to need to go back and edit all over again.

And yeah, we're talking to the Faerie Dragon, but we're definitely going to manipulate the stories regardless for that extra insurance.
 
Wait, is Drizzil a her or a him? Depending on the answer I'm going to need to go back and edit all over again.
In my first version a her, but I might have mixed it up myself when talking to DP once or twice?

And yeah, we're talking to the Faerie Dragon, but we're definitely going to manipulate the stories regardless for that extra insurance.
Keep in mind there's also Dragon in there. People with that blood don't take being changed without their say-so as easy as most fey.
Edit: Part of her is still pissed about her Oracle-curse.
 
In my first version a her, but I might have mixed it up myself when talking to DP once or twice?
Alright, I'll have to go back and check all previous instances to see what we used first.
Keep in mind there's also Dragon in there. People with that blood don't take being changed without their say-so as easy as most fey.
Perhaps, but I'm really not that worried. Just being here allowed Drizzil to get two levelups for free.
 
We should talk to both the mini-dragon and the other fey anyway. We need to hash out terms for the latters holding.
 
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