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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Crake said:
Unfortunately, murder, death in battle or death on the block, are all politically inconvenient to us. Better that he die via assassination or 'accident'.
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... No?

Death in battle or in the block, after being bested in battle, are pretty much ideal.
Azel said:
Alright, I will just blurt out my idea before this old discussion keeps going in familiar circles.

Talk with him.
Beat some sense into him.
Convince him to let Cersei kill him to spite the bitch.
Bring him back in a new body.

For all intents and purposes, Robert Baratheon is dead.
Instead, Ned can hang out with his new best friend Bobert Raratheon and Stannis can feel vindicated for being the only good one of the lot who actually stuck to his duties.
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Pass.

I'd rather kill the man directly responsible for killing essentially our entire family.
 
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Robert is honestly not worth all this hassle. Best way for him to go is him finding out about the twincest (preferably in the act) and either he kills the Twins (and thus Tywin kills him in turn) or more likely Jaime runs him through with some magic help from Cersei. Either way benefits us.

Or we just blow up the VarysIED.
 
I'd like to recruit an Other if we can manage it.

That said I certainly won't complain if it fails and we capture it for sacrifice instead.
 
Here are the gods:

Sseth
The Strangling Coil, He of Ten Thousand Fangs, Fate-Stealer

Alignment: Chaotic Evil

Domains: Chaos, Planning, Scalykind, Trickery,

Known Supernatural Servitors: Dark, Spirit and Water Nagas, Malors, Marilith

The Church: The cults of the Strangling Coil tended to attract the mad the vainglorious or the desperate, they often made pacts with demons though they delighted in betraying them often 'to the greater good' of whatever community they were inhabiting. Many of the cities of the Serpent Folk converted to open worship of Steth just before their end, though Yss claimed this was not the cause of the Great Dying, but rather a symptom of it.

Tenets of the Faith: There can be no fairness without the Trickster trying to subvert it, on order without chaos, no truth without lies beside them, Thus with every transgression, every oath broken every life taken, those who keep to the word of Sseth believe that they are keeping to some cosmic order.

Worshipers by Region: None known

Infrastructure: None known (Former range throughout the Serpent Empire)

The Lady of Spears
Bride of Battle, Mother of Hosts

Alignment: Lawful Evil

Domains: Suffering, Tyrany, War

Known Supernatural Servitors: ???

The Church: The Lady of Spears whose name may not be spoken of aloud by any save the Unsullied is in a sense the only thing the Unsullied are permitted to own, and she is naught but a reflection of their horrific existence, she is the lash unseen, the hand that pushes the slave's head closer to the ground. Though her rites can only be performed by the Unsullied, they are carefully monitored for any sign of shifting dogma, any spark of rebellion in this least regimented aspect of their lives

Tenets of the Faith: A goddess of war she is called, but as well one might call her a goddess of butchery, for her highest calling given to her warriors is simply to endure and yet if one asks enough of the Unsullied you have freed something truly odd emerges, another set of legends.

It is said in hushed whispers about how the Great Goddess is only preparing them for the day when they will set upon their masters and repay in full the price they had paid. These legends are claimed to be of an older tradition from the day she was the war goddess of the Ghiscari of old, a goddess of free men though few scholars there are who could say for certain.

Worshipers by Region: All Unsullied

Infrastructure: Grand temples in Mereen, Younkai and Astraphor
 
MTB said:
He's good at fighting. Preferably Others.
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Meh, we can build a construct twice as good for the money that he would cost us to keep alive (if you could monetize the political cost of keeping him alive).

I'm honestly a bit beffudled by the drive to keep Robert alive. Do we really want the previous occupier of our throne alive and gaining fighter levels at the wall? I for one do not want a power leveled, heroic Other killing Robert traipsing around.

There's really no IC reason for why Viserys should spare Robert. He's a humungous, ill-tempered, Targ-hating loose thread with no use beyond being a melee meatshield for people who would like nothing more than to shank him in the middle of a ranging. If Ned's fefees hurt so much at Robert's death, he can follow him to the afterlife (or the Wall, Ned's much more palatable for Black Brotherhood).
 
I mean right now we are keeping him alive. The minute we give Cersei slight hints about her kids she will move to kill him and if Ned ask we say no of course we didn't kill him and we wouldn't be lying. Because we didn't kill him or order anyone to kill him. We just stood by and watched the show.
 
zxzx24 said:
This sounds promising. Do we have a war good for the legion?
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Meraxxes would perform this function hundreds, nay, thousands times better.
The Dragon-God Meraxes
The Watcher in the Night, the Soldier's Friend, the Duty-Bound

Alignment: Lawful Neutral

Domains: Dragons, Nobility, War

Known Supernatural Servitors: Revenants of soldiers who have died in the service of some seemingly impossible duty (They gain the Law-Bound template)

The Church: The servants of Meraxes, as She is remembered in Volantis, were for centuries keepers of memory and honor whose task it was to keep alive the honor of the citizen soldier. Alas the use of Unsullied and sellswords had rendered them less and less relevant with each passing year as the priests struggled to retain some scrap of influence by aggrandizing magisters of a more martial bent, even those who only possessed the desire for glory in battle but not the skill to claim it. Yet through it all the altar was never dark, the swords still stood upon the Walk of Heroes, even those wrought of priceless spellsteel. No family would dare disgrace itself by drawing a blade sheathed in the earth beside a great general's ashes. Visions began to fly through the dreams of the keepers of the temple, whispers in the deepest night, for what is death, even a god's death to duty's call?

Tenets of the Faith: The virtues Meraxes calls for are those for a soldier to live by, ever to have a weapon but never to draw it thoughtlessly or in haste, to keep the orders of one's superiors lest they work against the greater interests of the army and one's comrades, never to fight a war of fratricide.

Worshipers by Region: Volantis (18%)

Infrastructure: Grand temple in Volantis, major and minor temples throughout the Volantine hinterlands (particularly in the newly conquered lands)
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And that's not even considering if we would want Legions to have a deity of their own.
Secular state, after all.

If we'd want to do anything with this Goddess of Spears...
Well, we'll need a lot of effort put into changing the tenets.

On the other hand, it will be but a given once we clear out Essos, and just a matter of time for her to fully rebrand.
 
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egoo said:
Meraxxes would perform this function hundreds, nay, thousands times better.

And that's not even considering if we would want Legions to have a deity of their own.
Secular state, after all.

If we'd want to do anything with this Goddess of Spears...
Well, we'll need a lot of effort put into changing the tenets.

On the other hand, it will be but a given once we clear out Essos, and just a matter of time for her to fully rebrand.
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We haven't put any effort into her...?

Same reason we avoid God's in general. Nevermind.
 
DragonParadox said:
Tenets of the Faith: A goddess of war she is called, but as well one might call her a goddess of butchery, for her highest calling given to her warriors is simply to endure and yet if one asks enough of the Unsullied you have freed something truly odd emerges, another set of legends.

It is said in hushed whispers about how the Great Goddess is only preparing them for the day when they will set upon their masters and repay in full the price they had paid. These legends are claimed to be of an older tradition from the day she was the war goddess of the Ghiscari of old, a goddess of free men though few scholars there are who could say for certain.
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That's a huge can of worms that we will never open by virtue of making the concept of unsullied stop existing.
 
DragonParadox said:
The Lady of Spears
Bride of Battle, Mother of Hosts

Alignment: Lawful Evil

Domains: Suffering, Tyrany, War

Known Supernatural Servitors: ???

The Church: The Lady of Spears whose name may not be spoken of aloud by any save the Unsullied is in a sense the only thing the Unsullied are permitted to own, and she is naught but a reflection of their horrific existence, she is the lash unseen, the hand that pushes the slave's head closer to the ground. Though her rites can only be performed by the Unsullied, they are carefully monitored for any sign of shifting dogma, any spark of rebellion in this least regimented aspect of their lives

Tenets of the Faith: A goddess of war she is called, but as well one might call her a goddess of butchery, for her highest calling given to her warriors is simply to endure and yet if one asks enough of the Unsullied you have freed something truly odd emerges, another set of legends.

It is said in hushed whispers about how the Great Goddess is only preparing them for the day when they will set upon their masters and repay in full the price they had paid. These legends are claimed to be of an older tradition from the day she was the war goddess of the Ghiscari of old, a goddess of free men though few scholars there are who could say for certain.

Worshipers by Region: All Unsullied

Infrastructure: Grand temples in Mereen, Younkai and Astraphor
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Interesting....

@DragonParadox, how would one go about contacting her?

@Duesal, prepare the special loot bag.
 
Tomcost said:
That's a huge can of worms that we will never open by virtue of making the concept of unsullied stop existing.
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She's hinted to be a former goddess of free men of Ghis, so there's definitely potential.
Azel said:
Interesting....

@DragonParadox, how would one go about contacting her?

@Duesal, prepare the special loot bag.
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Loot bag prepared.
DragonParadox said:
They would have to consent to it and that is very unlikely to happen. Most greater demons will choose oblivion over being thus constrained.
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In that case the Mallors will be used for Valyrian Steel.
 
Azel said:
Would that count as willing sacrifice? Asking for a few friends in a tree.
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That is a good question, do choosing to be sacrificed to the old gods to avoid being sacrificed to Yss count as willing sacrifice? Because if choosing to be sacrificed to avoid a worse fate count, then that opens the possibility of getting that modifier on quite a few sacrifices.
 
@DragonParadox, can we get a blessing from Yss to give a divine order to our Guardian Nagas to repopulate their species as much as possible? Along with a blessing to help it happen?
 
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